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Another Reactor Blows At Fukushima Power Plant

Hits: 16465 | Rating: (2.7) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: CrakrJak
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McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 12704 Posts
Wednesday, March 16, 2011 6:04:23 AM
@Angilion

Ya I said that while yes they can't hide it all together I saw on the news last night that even some Japanese citizens and newcasters there think that their government isn't telling them the whole story. I myself even though they're saying it's no major amounts of radiation wouldn't want to be anywhere near there.

MattPrince
Male, 40-49, Europe
 2223 Posts
Wednesday, March 16, 2011 12:45:49 AM
@Mildcorma I don't think you understand how radiation sickness works.

"It's not a bad radioactive mix, it won't make you sick nor will it cause any long term harm but it's a precaution should be taken as there is no point in putting people at risk where there does not need to be any."

It's a statistical thing, background radiation can give you cancer. Any increase, increases the risk of serious long term harm.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16125 Posts
Tuesday, March 15, 2011 9:57:50 PM
Geesh, Now the damn cuss filter is editing the word fu-kushima.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16125 Posts
Tuesday, March 15, 2011 9:55:39 PM
goaliejerry: The fudgeushima plant has breakwaters offshore, there are angled jetties out in the sea to help deflect tsunami waves, and the plant is built on a bluff over 20 feet above the high tide line.


It had survived several large storm surges before this without a problem. This tsunami was 30 ft. that's rather extraordinary.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16125 Posts
Tuesday, March 15, 2011 9:30:43 PM
madest: The 'Big Oil' subsidies you are complaining about are for the very 'green energy' projects you claim to want. BP, Shell, Phillips, and others are installing windmills and solar energy plants to appear to be green and get those subsidies.

So make up your mind do you want windmills via 'big oil' being subsidized to install them or do you still want your red herring argument against them ?

goaliejerry
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 4028 Posts
Tuesday, March 15, 2011 8:16:00 PM
" The tsunami power outage was not a scenario that Tokyo electric power co. had ever foreseen let alone trained for, it's remarkable that the disaster has not been even worse."

The latest news is they are considering dropping boron from helicopters on the fires. Its actually quite insane. Tsunami flooding was amazingly foreseeable. The terrain was flat, near the ocean. Japan has a history of tsunamis. They invented the word. They detected increased radiation levels in Tokyo today.

goaliejerry
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 4028 Posts
Tuesday, March 15, 2011 7:58:26 PM
The craziest part about this nuclear situation . . . a fire started today . . . in the cooling pool water . . .

loadstar
Male, 30-39, Canada
 310 Posts
Tuesday, March 15, 2011 6:36:33 PM
The only way to stop the uncontrollable devistation is to drop Def Leppard on the reactor from a helicopter.

MooseMaster
Male, 18-29, Europe
 32 Posts
Tuesday, March 15, 2011 5:36:40 PM
poo.. i meant fusion

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 10533 Posts
Tuesday, March 15, 2011 5:30:44 PM
I've just spotted someone suggesting that the Japanese government could be covering up a major radiation leak to save face...sheesh. How? Millions of secret agents stealing all the radiation detectors from everywhere?

When Chernobyl became a dirty bomb, the Soviet government did try to cover it up. They utterly failed to do so because radiation is a giveaway. Everyone+dog can detect it. Sweden raised the alarm first with Chernobyl, but if they hadn't someone else would have. You can't cover up a major radiation leak.

madest
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6455 Posts
Tuesday, March 15, 2011 1:54:58 PM
Windmills and solar energy are never going to provide enough reliable and consistent power to meet our needs. IF it were not for huge subsidies the electric companies wouldn't even bother with them.

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That wasn't my point busybody. It was simply unsubstantiated BS being paraded as fact that I called the guy on. But now that you're involved I'm pretty positive that if we took away Big Oil subsidies and gave them to green energy companies everything would change for the better.

MildCorma
Male, 18-29, Europe
 497 Posts
Tuesday, March 15, 2011 12:49:35 PM
Hey, moving a decimal point is hard yo! :(

meepmaker
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 6716 Posts
Tuesday, March 15, 2011 12:44:58 PM
DOH !

MildCorma
Male, 18-29, Europe
 497 Posts
Tuesday, March 15, 2011 12:37:45 PM
herp derp, 5,000R or 500Sv within a mile of the plant, about 30,000R or 3000Sv in the reactor (if it was breached like Chernobyl).

MildCorma
Male, 18-29, Europe
 497 Posts
Tuesday, March 15, 2011 12:31:26 PM
Hmm hang on, made a few mistakes with my maths like a dumbo.

1R = 10mSv, or 0.01Sv

radiation from plant peaked (per hour readings) at 0.11Sv which is 11R, not 0.11R.

11R = 0.11Sv, symtoms start from 0.25Sv and the current radiation is 0.06Sv and falling. My bad, but the readings are still very, very low. If a core casing had been breached, we would be looking at 5,000R+, or 50,000Sv within a mile of the plant. I hope this helps to illustrate exactly how safe it is still.

MildCorma
Male, 18-29, Europe
 497 Posts
Tuesday, March 15, 2011 12:20:23 PM
About radiation readings, the normal background radiation is 200mR (Rontgens per year), so say <1R per day (R = radiation per hour). 500R in 5 hours is lethal for humans (that's 500 every hour for 5 hours). The readings taken at the Chernobyl core after the accident exceeded 30,000R.

Radiation at the plants maxed out at 11mR (11 millirems per hour) which is 0.11R. Now, news channels are saying things like "radiation peaked at 100mR!" because 100mR = 1R but 1R sounds soo small compared to 100 right. Also the peak was measured after the explosion, and the equivalent dosage per hour is the highest recorded so far of 0.11R.

Now to clear this all up, symtoms start in some people from 0.25R, and this is considered to be very mild exposure and is easily treated with a few tablets. The radiation currently is around 0.06R, and is continuing to fall. If anyone wants me to clarify anything else i'll be happy to

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16125 Posts
Tuesday, March 15, 2011 12:17:25 PM
madest: Windmills and solar energy are never going to provide enough reliable and consistent power to meet our needs. IF it were not for huge subsidies the electric companies wouldn't even bother with them.

Coal, oil, and nuclear power are here to stay for the foreseeable future. Of those 3 nuclear power is the cleanest. The only reason those plants failed were due to extra ordinary circumstances and a 40 year old design that is no longer used.

78.8% of France's energy production is from nuclear power, So much that they export their electricity to other nations.

1 modern nuclear power plant can provide 1650 MWe of electricity. 1 wind turbine produces a mere 0.35 MWe average. That's 4700 wind turbines to equal 1 nuclear power plant.

MildCorma
Male, 18-29, Europe
 497 Posts
Tuesday, March 15, 2011 11:52:34 AM
@mcgovern

it'll be disposed of the same way nuclear waste is. Currently in one of the reactors though, this is the mix that exploded and this is why the evacuation was pushed back to 12 miles. It's not a bad radioactive mix, it won't make you sick nor will it cause any long term harm but it's a precaution should be taken as there is no point in putting people at risk where there does not need to be any.

The news is sensationalist. What is being reported through Reuters is what is mentioned in great depth in that article - that the containment layers have failed. They are nothing to do with the reactor core which is sealed from construction. The core is designed so that in the event of a meltdown nothing short of drilling a hole into the container would rupture it. This is a requirement to prevent things like chernobyl happening again. That disaster will -never- be repeated, on any scale.

madest
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6455 Posts
Tuesday, March 15, 2011 11:52:04 AM
Wind mills have killed far more people per unit of energy produced than nuclear power, and after this disaster, nuclear power will only be safer.

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Clearly you're on crack. Provide a source or keep your unsupportive statistics in your butt where they belong.

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 12704 Posts
Tuesday, March 15, 2011 11:25:53 AM
Also I haven't seen anything saying what's being done with that ocean water and acid mix they were trying to cool the cores with anyone know??

huppamaniac
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 21 Posts
Tuesday, March 15, 2011 11:08:21 AM
Every time a commercial plane crashes, the ensuing investigation and changes to policy make flying safer.

Wind mills have killed far more people per unit of energy produced than nuclear power, and after this disaster, nuclear power will only be safer.

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 12704 Posts
Tuesday, March 15, 2011 10:59:54 AM
Nope didn't go through the entire article you're talking about mild. I'm seeing the news saying that the one reactor shield might be compromised(which means it probably is) and a spent fuel pool is leaking radioactivity though. I've also noticed that no one is giving actual radiation level readings just saying it's about x amount of times normal here and there why do that??

MildCorma
Male, 18-29, Europe
 497 Posts
Tuesday, March 15, 2011 10:16:58 AM
@Crakrjak and Mcgovern

did you even read the article posted here on IAB the other day that went through exactly what happened and why? It says the tsunami put out their power, but actually there are batteries inside the core to cool it for a further 8 hours should the backup systems fail. They worked, and in that time they were able to continue pumping in sea water but at such high temps the water seperates into hydrogen and oxygen which is explosive, and this is what has happened a few times now. There are 3 cooling layers, each one is there in case the other fails, all as backups to each other (and so they can clean one system without worrying the other is going to fail during normal operations). All 3 of these layers have now exploded after sea water was being pumped in, releasing the slighty active (but still radioactive, which is why people are 12 miles away as it's part of international guidelines) water into the atmosphere. See below about meltdowns

randomxnp
Male, 30-39, Europe
 1065 Posts
Tuesday, March 15, 2011 10:14:51 AM
It turns out that so far none of these are even as "bad" as 3-mile island. So this story is more bollocks.

And it appears that Angela Merkel is an idiot (or her advisors are idiots). Not only does Germany have no major techtonic faults, it has little coastline to suffer a tsunami. Why is she suspoending nuclear programmes.

MildCorma
Male, 18-29, Europe
 497 Posts
Tuesday, March 15, 2011 10:09:59 AM
@Crakrjak

My point was that even if they do go into full meltdown, which is still a possibility (albeit a very small one) that there would be no nuclear fallout, with the casing surrounding the core still intact (this was one of the very first things that they established) the final fail-safe is simply to catch the melted nuclear material on a de-activating surface inside the core itself. If a meltdown occurs it will not be the all-encompassing tragedy that people presume it will be. There is no other material inside the core for a pressure build up to occur which is what caused the original explosions in the various containment layers.

read the above Mcgovern, a containment layer failing (as all 3 have done) is NOT the core failing and of course it will leak radiation as the steam that caused the explosion is slightly activated from cooling the core. This is like being exposed to a single x-ray levels of radiation here, life threatening? No.

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