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Will You Join This Facebook Protest? [Pic]

Hits: 31304 | Rating: (2.6) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: fancylad
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Guadalajara
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 1 Posts
Saturday, March 26, 2011 4:06:02 PM
It wouldn't really "put a dent in the Middle Eastern oil industry" that much. The US gets almost half of its oil domestically, and then even half of its imports come from places in the western hemisphere. In fact, only 16% of the oil that the US consumes comes from Middle Eastern countries. So we'd really be sticking it to ourselves, Canada and Mexico, if this even worked (which it wouldn't). Also, the previous "gas out" did not work and the price of gas did not drop 30 cents over night.

Fatninja01
Male, 18-29, Australia
 24652 Posts
Monday, March 14, 2011 6:01:25 PM
Not enough people on fb to do it, and who would really care

kula35
Male, 18-29, Canada
 160 Posts
Sunday, March 13, 2011 11:25:27 PM
Pi day?

zfolwick
Male, 18-29, Western US
 22 Posts
Sunday, March 13, 2011 6:54:39 AM
no it won't. people will buy gas the next day.

Now.... an entire OPERATING cycle? Don't buy gas MONTH? There's an idea...

theCherBears
Female, 18-29, Canada
 1 Posts
Saturday, March 12, 2011 9:31:05 AM
The event that is being sent through all of my friends right now is to not buy Gas on April 15th, so I don't think this is going to make the big impact they want to see if there are different groups for different days. And I agree with whyme, I don't think it would work if its only one day.

OldSmelly
Male, 30-39, Europe
 22 Posts
Friday, March 11, 2011 10:16:59 PM
The price of oil isn't going up, it's the value of the dollar that is going down.

In 1947 a gallon of gas cost 23c so you could buy a gallon of gas with a quarter. However, then, that quarter was made from quarter of an once of silver. If you had one of those coins today you could exchange it for Federal Reserve Notes. How much? The same amount you'd need for a gallon of gas.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11547 Posts
Friday, March 11, 2011 4:42:19 PM
In case anyone thinks I'm talking rubbish about acceleration, I'll link to a couple of videos of an electric 1972 Datsun 1200. Maybe he deliberately picked a rubbish car to mod, I don't know.

10.424

Enough torque to cause this off the line.

He's still developing it. Current figures are 0-60 is 1.8s, 1/4 mile is 10.258 @123.79

There are faster-accelerating EVs, but this one is street legal.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11547 Posts
Friday, March 11, 2011 4:22:53 PM
EVs might (might, not will) be viable in the future.

i) Batteries. There are working prototypes of new types of batteries that have 5 times the charge to mass ratio of Li-ion and the researchers expect to get that up to 10x. At 10x, a battery storing enough charge for a useful (~250 miles) range would weigh ~50Kg. It would also be far smaller. That makes battery swapping stations viable - drive in, swap drained battery for charged one from the station, pay, drive out. 5 minutes and you've completely refueled, i.e. like an ICEV. The battery you swapped out recharges in the station, so it doesn't matter if it takes 4 hours from an industrial power socket.

ii) Big increase in generating capacity (to recharge all those batteries). Viable with a mixed bag of sources (nuclear, solar, wave+tidal, hydro, etc).

It could be done.

But not right now.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11547 Posts
Friday, March 11, 2011 4:15:22 PM
Yeah, I realize that electric cars really aren't that great


It's much worse than that.

It's not that they aren't that great (although they aren't), it's that with current technology it's impossible to switch over to EVs on a large scale and monumentally environmentally damaging to try.

It is possible to make a great EV. Top speed won't reach supercar levels, but you could push 150mph in a well made powerful EV and that's more than enough unless you're racing. Acceleration can spank ICEVs six ways from Sunday until you get to custom-built ICEV drag racers - electric motors are torque-heavy and have a much flatter torque curve. Everything else can be the same as an ICEV because it doesn't depend on the engine.

But as yet EVs just aren't practical on a small scale and are impossible on a large scale. We need FAR better batteries and far more electricity generation.

whyme73
Male, 18-29, Western US
 468 Posts
Friday, March 11, 2011 4:10:59 PM
I doubt it would work just because of one day.

ledouxrt
Male, 30-39, Western US
 299 Posts
Friday, March 11, 2011 2:21:08 PM
I'll participate, only because I just filled up on gas today and won't need any that soon :P

ruthless1990
Female, 18-29, Europe
 3016 Posts
Friday, March 11, 2011 1:57:24 PM
the uk has the highest tax on gas. it upsets me greatly

panda_chaos
Female, 18-29, Western US
 235 Posts
Friday, March 11, 2011 1:35:31 PM
Harvey is right. Protesting against a gas company is like protesting against oxygen. You're gonna need it eventually.

bucksteeth
Male, 18-29, Canada
 133 Posts
Friday, March 11, 2011 1:08:09 PM
the funny thing is, gas should cost around 3-4 dollars a liter. the only reason that it's low in north america is because the government pays big oil to keep the price down. when gas starts costing what it should, there will be an increase in local production and long term, the prices of most everything else will drop. there will also be some incentives for car manufacturers to finally produce a car that won't be using the outdated tech that has been available and has not changed much in the last 100 years. the internal combustion engine is so last century ffs.

taylor_stone
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 2694 Posts
Friday, March 11, 2011 11:45:35 AM
@dang007

You bring up a good point, which is kind of the aftershock of what I mentioned in my earlier post... Rather than lowering the price, this boycott will RAISE them because the station owners know that people will still need to fill up the following day... Sorry people, oil companies have us by the balls and there's not much we can do about it until we find a means of transportation that doesnt use gas, then mass distribute it. (For those saying walking is the best option, I work several towns away (and I'm sure many others do as well, and my job requires me to transport residents to appointments... In some cases, driving is necessary...)

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13471 Posts
Friday, March 11, 2011 8:39:59 AM
@mosko

Here's what you do then move to the USA. How much are you paying in taxes when you buy gas???

dang007
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 591 Posts
Friday, March 11, 2011 8:35:57 AM
Lets see if I happened to own a station and saw this actually happening I would raise my price the same day on the assumption that a much higher than average number of people would need to fill up the next day causing some of my competitors to run out of gas and sending customers to my newly repriced pumps.

YLE
Female, 18-29, Europe
 969 Posts
Friday, March 11, 2011 8:22:06 AM
yes! please do! i work at a gas station, i could actually just sleep!

and yeah, americans have it easy. german gas prices are like 3 euro a liter

DeltaForce
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 32 Posts
Friday, March 11, 2011 8:06:16 AM
You can't hold out forever. Big Oil win. If that extra 8-10% cost on gas breaks the bank, ride a bike, bus, or walk, jeez

mosko
Male, 18-29, Europe
 21 Posts
Friday, March 11, 2011 6:59:59 AM
$3.50??? what id do to pay as little as that for petrol....

danthew
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2137 Posts
Friday, March 11, 2011 6:17:19 AM
Jees, you Americans have it easy, $3.50 a gallon! In England it works out as about $7.88 a gallon.

DJDoubleb
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 381 Posts
Friday, March 11, 2011 6:06:31 AM
@Schr0dinger: Even that wouldn't work. The other oil companies would not have enough ready to distribute to handle all of mobile's customers, So they would have to buy ready made gas to handle the demand. Guess who they buy it from? Mobile

thatwasCRAP
Male, 18-29, Europe
 58 Posts
Friday, March 11, 2011 4:16:35 AM
wish fuel here(UK) was as cheap as that, feckin £10 for 7(roughly) lousy litres.

price of petrol has just risen here to £1.33 per litre and diesel is £1.39

Hiromi
Female, 13-17, Eastern US
 1153 Posts
Friday, March 11, 2011 3:40:51 AM
I've gotten an invite to that..

Schr0dinger
Male, 50-59, Western US
 361 Posts
Friday, March 11, 2011 3:28:11 AM
No it would not work. But if we all didnt buy gas from Mobil for a week, they would start a price war and all gas would come down. Maybe we spend a dime more a galon for a little while but the pay-off would be huge in no time.

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