 realguitar
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 18 Posts
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Friday, March 11, 2011 12:48:14 AM
Our B-1 cost about 1.1 billion we got about 20- not worthless but not very useful in the current theater, and yea for the cost of just that fleet- every child in the US could have 2 iPods |
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 8BitHero
Male, 18-29, Europe
5420 Posts
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Wednesday, March 09, 2011 12:54:40 PM
iPod ewww |
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 Schr0dinger
Male, 50-59, Western US
361 Posts
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Tuesday, March 08, 2011 8:46:42 PM
DJDoubleb "Gerry1of1 with a gun... did the hair on the back of anyone else's neck just stand up or just mine?"
Um...I for one would rather have Gerry walking around with a gun than most cops I know.
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 DFWBrysco
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
219 Posts
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Tuesday, March 08, 2011 8:46:07 PM
It seems like every few years, the ideas originally proposed by FDR in his "Second Bill of Rights" speech is trotted out. As usual, the Republicans attack and foam at the mouth over them and yet...
What is actually wrong with them? Where would America be if back in 1944, Congress embraced the Second Bill of Rights and passed them through. Where would we be today? |
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Schr0dinger
Male, 50-59, Western US
361 Posts
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Tuesday, March 08, 2011 8:44:01 PM
There is no way to cover all the flaws in what he said.
Wow..just wow man. I didnt know anyone was that stupid in real life. |
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 hellrazor236
Male, 18-29, Western US
58 Posts
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Tuesday, March 08, 2011 5:38:58 PM
iPods and Macbooks for everyone!! Then we can really be bankrupt out of our asses! |
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machtig
Male, 30-39, Western US
9 Posts
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Tuesday, March 08, 2011 4:13:13 PM
Wow. I'll never feel dumb again. Really, if people want to live like that they can all move to Denmark. |
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 Fatninja01
Male, 18-29, Australia
23995 Posts
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Tuesday, March 08, 2011 2:29:05 PM
Canabalism will solve unemployment, lets face it, people quit because of their bosses, what you do is eat the boss and get their job! then you can hire someone to fill your position. SOLVED |
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 Trypno
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
473 Posts
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Tuesday, March 08, 2011 1:24:07 PM
Only problem is, if everybody is able to access schooling to become doctors or astronauts or politicians, you won't have anybody to build the schools and do the most basic menial labor required to keep a country running |
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 HumboldtPie
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
310 Posts
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Tuesday, March 08, 2011 11:22:59 AM
...MONEY IS NO OBJECT, DECREASE THE BUDGET AND INCREASE SPENDING RAWRAWRAWR |
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 Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
25637 Posts
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Tuesday, March 08, 2011 9:08:26 AM
Why do I need a gun?
HELLO! Have you seen my neighbors!
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DJDoubleb
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
381 Posts
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Tuesday, March 08, 2011 8:25:10 AM
Gerry1of1 with a gun... did the hair on the back of anyone else's neck just stand up or just mine? :)
Seriously though, Gerry nailed it. The 2nd amendment was put in place so that the government would fear the people. We are gun crazy because of our past. Not our constitution. |
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 Brassbull
Male, 30-39, Southern US
1608 Posts
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Tuesday, March 08, 2011 8:04:12 AM
"Would anyone actually like to attack my claim that America is gun nutty because it's in the constitution, despite no active involvement from the government?"
I do believe it's being a part of the constitution has something to do with how much Americans love guns. However, I would argue that it has a hell of a lot more to do with our history and culture of hunting and warfare. Most initial colonists here in the new world did not know anything about agriculture or farming and had to rely on hunting, or the hospitality of the natives, in order to survive. The French who inhabited the Louisiana territory relied primarily on trading animal skins for survival. Those who came west to claim land had to rely on hunting to make ends meet and feed their families. For a solid 300 years guns were considered necessary for both sustenance and protection. The second amendment facilitated that culture, but it did not cause it.
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Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
25637 Posts
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Tuesday, March 08, 2011 8:02:30 AM
Baal "Would anyone actually like to attack my claim that America is gun nutty because it's in the constitution, despite no active involvement from the government?"
We're gun crazy because it's in our culture. The Wild West... and rural towns where hunting is common. Dirty Harry and John Wayne alwyas had guns.
The constitution just gives guarantees the right to own them. "Theoretically". There's much debate about the actual meaning of the Second Ammendment as it may have been intended to allow for civilian malitia, not personal ownership.
But the Supreme Court went back to a traditional stance in District of Colombia vs Heller in 2008 saying the 2nd Ammendment gives individuals the right own guns not related to militia.
But personally, I think the only real guarantee against a tyranical goverment is a well armed popoulation.
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 Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
9438 Posts
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Tuesday, March 08, 2011 7:59:22 AM
The constitution is not to be used in such a manner
Which is why I said earlier that it would be such farce to even try implementing it. |
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 CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
14374 Posts
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Tuesday, March 08, 2011 7:54:58 AM
Cajun: The constitution is not to be used in such a manner, It was written to protect our citizens from the government, not to say what the government must do for it's citizens.
There is nothing in our constitution or laws preventing citizens from owning property, In fact the 5th amendment already protects that right. |
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 McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
10235 Posts
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Tuesday, March 08, 2011 7:37:14 AM
Ya let just take away all motivation to work for things we should all live off handout it's been working so well with the current welfare system. Oh they should put in the consitution something to get me a harem of sexy horny asian women I have a right to be happy. |
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Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
9438 Posts
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Tuesday, March 08, 2011 7:35:53 AM
The operative word there is 'Bear'
Baal wasn't advocating people be entitled to a house, rather a reminder in the constitution that says you have a right to own one (and no it doesn't say you're entitled to it). Though I suppose that in of itself would have problems. |
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CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
14374 Posts
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Tuesday, March 08, 2011 6:51:14 AM
Baalthazaq: You are confusing the "right to bear arms". The operative word there is 'Bear', meaning to own, not to be bought for them.
We have a right to 'Pursue' happiness, not have it handed to us by the government. Also, What happens when one day your government can't pay for those entitlements anymore ? You get the riots that are happening in Greece, The strikes happening in Spain, Massive protests in Italy and Ireland.
A state sets itself up for failure when it enshrines 'cradle to grave' entitlements in it's constitution. |
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DJDoubleb
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
381 Posts
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Tuesday, March 08, 2011 6:18:53 AM
Kaleotera, really?!?!? Government housing and giving kids free ipods and laptops are the answer?
Please don't vote! |
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 catzypoo
Female, 18-29, Europe
49 Posts
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Tuesday, March 08, 2011 5:31:48 AM
the right?? No no no. In Ireland and Britian this mentality has people on social welfare and living in houses out of tax payers money. If you have a child the state will give you a house so teenage girls are getting pregnet all over the shop to get out of their homes. Education yes. In ireland we have a free college system (€2000 a year for a registaration fee but, it is afforable) and a free health care system. Health and Education improve society and I think they are important. I also belive they should be right as, for houses and material bullpoo take some responsiblity and get a job. I wish there was a cut off as I think most of the people in Ireland on it are either a)lazy b)drug addicts in a cycle.
Good points bad points. And as a teacher, kids do not need laptops or ipods to learn. |
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 handys003
Male, 50-59, Western US
2402 Posts
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Tuesday, March 08, 2011 1:34:50 AM
@Baal
I'm not talking about your argument in your first post. I asked a simple question. Why are you obsessed over gun ownership in the USA? |
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 Kaleotera
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
473 Posts
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Tuesday, March 08, 2011 1:18:47 AM
Here I was thinking JJ Jr. would be making a ridiculous statement on how to fix unemployment...but he actually made a really good point. |
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Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
9438 Posts
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Tuesday, March 08, 2011 12:37:54 AM
The point of the second amendment back then was to reassure people that their weapons weren't going to be taken away. |
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Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
9438 Posts
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Monday, March 07, 2011 11:55:18 PM
One of the reasons for the second amendment is, get this, to deter an undemocratic government. Just take a look at before the beginning of the United Government, it took an insurrection (which should have failed by many reasons) to drive out the British. Interestingly enough it was rather useful in this little conflict. |
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