 tedweird
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 309 Posts
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Tuesday, March 08, 2011 8:38:27 AM
i fully understand prosecuting him for leaking information, but how does wikileaks count as 'the enemy?' or was that referring to the unarmed Iraqis the military was apparently intending on attacking? |
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 terracottus
Male, 30-39, Europe
278 Posts
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Friday, March 04, 2011 1:18:49 PM
Sorry dude, but thats the game.
Having the death penalty is a disgrace though, shame on you america. |
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 imnakdjumpme
Male, 18-29, Western US
595 Posts
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Friday, March 04, 2011 11:38:54 AM
most whistle-blowers get praise, honors and money for their courage to defy the rules of the institution they work under for a greater cause |
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 madest
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
6406 Posts
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Friday, March 04, 2011 10:08:24 AM
They lifted DADT so nobody would think anything odd about forcing prisoners to share their junk with their American captors. |
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 Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
25566 Posts
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Friday, March 04, 2011 9:07:40 AM
@Madest
they also piled them naked on top of each other in homoerotic poses and too photos. That's a bit differant.
And I wouldn't classify the naked stuff at Abu Grade as "torture". Wrongheaded, sure. Stupid, yes. |
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 auburnjunky
Male, 30-39, Southern US
8669 Posts
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Friday, March 04, 2011 8:23:42 AM
"Getting closer to a dictatorship every day since Bush..."
Funny how you said AFTER Bush. Quite telling. |
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 skypirate
Male, 18-29, Western US
1785 Posts
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Friday, March 04, 2011 8:13:44 AM
if Manning is convicted of all of the charges he could face life in prison, plus reduction in pay grade to the lowest enlisted pay
anyone else find this combination of charges strange? |
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esmifra
Male, 18-29, Europe
34 Posts
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Friday, March 04, 2011 7:45:18 AM
AMERICA! Getting closer to a dictatorship every day since Bush... |
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madest
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
6406 Posts
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Friday, March 04, 2011 7:23:58 AM
It was called torture at Abu Gharib. Why would it be considered something else at Quantico? |
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Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
25566 Posts
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Friday, March 04, 2011 7:02:35 AM
Seriously Madest?... "torture" ? ha!
No, if he was humiliated by being naked,that's God's fault for making him look funny.
I don't think the whole strip naked thing was a good idea, but it's no where near "torture".
And I think we should wait to see if he's convicted before punishing him. If he is, then it should be harsh. |
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madest
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
6406 Posts
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Friday, March 04, 2011 6:10:23 AM
Now we're torturing him. |
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 LionHeart-72
Male, 18-29, Western US
494 Posts
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Friday, March 04, 2011 6:00:03 AM
Wow, that article had no idea what it was talking about. The documents leaked had no part in the recent uprisings in the Middle East. It was the sudden snap in Egypt that gave these folks the courage (hard to explain- Egypt has a HUGE influence on the region and when they were able to kick out their autocrat, many others believe they had a chance to change things in their country too).
Manning leaked documents that were relatively benign. No leaked government corruptions like the media would love you to think (makes the story juicier). It's more the fact that he willing distributed classified that pissed us off so much. The enemy loves to use ambushes and any info they can use to plan those better can get a lot of people killed. He'll just be in prison for a long, long time. |
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 SvampeBob
Male, 18-29, Europe
3088 Posts
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Friday, March 04, 2011 4:01:43 AM
I got more respect for a person who disobey his duty to show the world the corruption, than some loyal persons who covers up and kills the "traitor".
no he doesn't deserve the death penalty the damn ass holes who commit war crimes and kills innocent civilians deserve to be put in jail |
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 thefatkid77
Male, 18-29, Western US
112 Posts
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Friday, March 04, 2011 3:44:36 AM
As a member of the military, that doesn't even have much access to classified material, I know how many times this ass must have been warned about keeping info under wraps. He probably deserves whatever he gets. Also, he's probably an idiot. And, the government will probably make an example out of him. |
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ledgehead
Male, 40-49, Canada
464 Posts
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Friday, March 04, 2011 3:42:45 AM
It's about time! And there should be repercussions for the people that report on a story under the guise of anonymity. As in, the President will be touring today in "any place" but don't use my name because I'm not supposed to tell anyone, WTF. Isn't this endangering the life of your President? |
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cheezcake117
Male, 18-29, Australia
31 Posts
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Friday, March 04, 2011 2:25:38 AM
@Phoneybone
Matters like this aren't as clearcut as that, he exposed some pretty disgusting military corruption. Pretty hypocritical of a country that fights for democracy, freedom and human rights in other countries but then covers up things like the murder of unarmed iraqi civilians and reporters.
The USA is on pretty shaky ground atm in the rest of the worlds view, you guys have good ideals but the true reasons behind which you try and obtain them for other countries is questionable (oil etc.) |
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 phoneybone
Male, 18-29, Western US
1750 Posts
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Thursday, March 03, 2011 11:27:22 PM
to anyone who's saying "oh, poor little pvt bradley", the dude gave away classified military documents, and that's a biiig thing they say "DON'T DO" when you're in the military. So yeah, he's an idiot and deserves whatever he gets. |
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 Student_Law
Male, 30-39, Europe
966 Posts
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Thursday, March 03, 2011 11:11:27 PM
@yousucsomuch: Yeah, you know who "Afghan agents" are? Well... actually, nobody does. Yup, thats right. This argument, for one, is invalid because there are no incidents of "afghan agents" being put in danger because they have had their names released. The only Afghan agent i have heard of being "outed" by wikileaks, is Hamid Karzai's brother, who was caught carrying a suitcase full of drug money. Karzai, the man we (USA and Norway together) support militarily is corrupt and is under suspicion for cheating the elections. He has passed laws that opress women, and he is suspected to be involved in drug trafficing.
There you have your "Afghan agents" who have been "outed" by wikileaks... (well, the ones we know of anyway, and as far as i know they are still alive and doing very, very well...) |
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 Matholameu
Male, 18-29, Canada
496 Posts
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Thursday, March 03, 2011 10:34:19 PM
@handys003 -No, he's totally drated. 100%
Poor guy. |
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 handys003
Male, 50-59, Western US
2402 Posts
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Thursday, March 03, 2011 9:50:00 PM
Salute to a man who exposes dishonest behavior no matter the country. He's basically f*cked though. |
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 RETARDEDBEAR
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
440 Posts
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Thursday, March 03, 2011 9:14:47 PM
"Little dramatic. Nobody died from his actions. Greed? Wikileaks doesn't pay. They're merely an outlet for whistleblowers. We spent a trillion dollars on a war based upon lies that cost us 4,500 lives and the frauds responsible are celebrated with libraries and lifetime healthcare and $400k a year retirement.
Bradley Manning will rot in jail for whistleblowing on very powerful people who deserved to be exposed. That's a goddamn shame."
No. Bradley Manning will rot in jail because he broke the law. He did not "expose" anything shocking. "Wars based upon lies," as you so affectionately call them, have nothing to do with it, and the people who you believe are responsible for said "lies" are not even in power anymore. |
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 procker14
Female, 18-29, Western US
506 Posts
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Thursday, March 03, 2011 8:16:09 PM
Ugh...
That link explanation was pretty one sided.
Sometimes it seems this website just creates links to start flamewars. |
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 CoyoteKing
Male, 18-29, Southern US
2993 Posts
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Thursday, March 03, 2011 7:18:47 PM
sucks to be him |
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 yusuksomuch
Male, 40-49, Western US
1002 Posts
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Thursday, March 03, 2011 5:52:57 PM
canada, the other europe |
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 BrimstoneOne
Male, 30-39, Canada
2228 Posts
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Thursday, March 03, 2011 5:43:53 PM
Considering he's only a suspect, being held as if he is criminal, is not surprise. What is a surprise is that he still alive, consider the United States pro position on torture of detainees (this includes domestic detainees as well). |
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