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How YOU ALONE Can Kill Traffic Jams

Hits: 25852 | Rating: (2.8) | Category: Science | Added by: KoalaMeatPie
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comp_wizard
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 195 Posts
Friday, June 07, 2013 6:48:02 PM
The exit lane idea makes sense. In most other traffic situations, driving slowly to let a big gap form won't help. If nobody moves into the gap, it's just wasted road space. Otherwise, you've effectively encouraged people to change lanes, which is always less efficient than staying in one lane.

charcat
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 26 Posts
Wednesday, February 23, 2011 6:46:08 PM
when you are that far back from the exit then sure give em space but screw the dicks that ride to the front of the line!

flingspoo
Female, 18-29, Western US
 1006 Posts
Wednesday, February 23, 2011 11:02:27 AM
Lol, I'm in So Cal. Here you'd just have like 37 people cut into that space.

dstbstr
Male, 18-29, Western US
 33 Posts
Wednesday, February 23, 2011 4:43:46 AM
One particular reason this works well on interstates is that when you slam on your breaks, the semi's behind you have to do the same, and they can't get back up to speed as quickly. If you keep moving, they can keep the truck in gear and get up to speed faster

Frankii
Female, 18-29, Europe
 439 Posts
Wednesday, February 23, 2011 2:42:29 AM
@Kaylen226 Thanks :) I did get really confused as to why people were driving in there XD That still seems really strange though cause we don't have anything like that

zombieland
Male, 18-29, Canada
 420 Posts
Tuesday, February 22, 2011 9:32:41 PM
This is why i refuse to live in a big city. i like to pull u turns on main streets.

Kaylen226
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 114 Posts
Tuesday, February 22, 2011 5:10:04 PM
Its so much easier to just fly past this jackhole than sit behind him watching everyone pass you by. What a lame prick. People do this in the city I live in and they do not go 2 mph under the limit, more like 10-15 under the limit. Everyone honks at them, then passes them when can, its not cuz their racing to get to the jam, its actually cuz this guy will do this the ENTIRE time he's on the interstate, not JUST for traffic.

@Franklin, thats the interstate, there is no hard shoulder on the left, thats the carpool lane where you gotta have more than one person in the car with you.

Frankii
Female, 18-29, Europe
 439 Posts
Tuesday, February 22, 2011 3:32:27 PM
OK, now I know I don't know much about American roads but why do a load of cars appear to be driving on the hard shoulder?

Musuko42
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2804 Posts
Tuesday, February 22, 2011 1:32:29 PM
Because overall, going fast and having braking, and the cascades that come with it, works out slower overall than going a little bit slower and avoiding the braking effect entirely.

Musuko42
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2804 Posts
Tuesday, February 22, 2011 1:31:50 PM
@GasMaskKid

"Nowadays a lot of cars save energy by converting your braking force into more energy to use."

That's not the issue here. It's the cascade effect from OVER braking.

Each time a car has to brake because the car in front has braked, they brake a tiny bit harder than the car in front did (possibly due to reaction times eating up some of their chance to brake gently). It's a REAL and DOCUMENTED effect; humans do not brake precisely, and will overbrake rather than underbrake.

Follow that back down the line of cars, each one braking a little harder than the one before it, and before long there's a car that's had to brake to a complete stop, FOR NO USEFUL PURPOSE.

If the chain is broken, then the loss of speed due to the overbraking doesn't happen.

It's better for the traffic to be travelling 2mph slower, and not braking at all, then to be travelling fast and have braking. It's a fact.

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13145 Posts
Tuesday, February 22, 2011 12:12:18 PM
I save energy by doing burnouts at every stop that way the wheels are always in motion :-p

GasMaskKid
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 694 Posts
Tuesday, February 22, 2011 11:54:47 AM
Nowadays a lot of cars save energy by converting your braking force into more energy to use... If you go at a constant rate, you're going the same distance in the same amount of time, but you're wasting energy.

rogue_knight
Male, 40-49, Western US
 869 Posts
Tuesday, February 22, 2011 11:11:11 AM
every body hates this guy- even though he's letting people in his "hole"... if everyone sped up and eliminated the gap and drove at speed then everyone behind them would have space!

bataleon27
Male, 18-29, Europe
 1179 Posts
Tuesday, February 22, 2011 9:59:41 AM
pretty ridiculous really, he's not preventing traffic jams ahead of him, he's creating them behind him by allowing less space for cars in lanes behind.

Also, the amount of cars that he let in whilst driving with a big gap would definitely slow his journey down more than 10 seconds. He was a mile of traffic further back than he would have been

Musuko42
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2804 Posts
Tuesday, February 22, 2011 9:47:01 AM
"Slow drivers cause traffic jams."

Perhaps. But driving a slow, steady speed is less likely to cause a jam than stop-start traffic, as stop-start includes an added inefficiency of drivers over-braking (car in front brakes a tiny bit, car behind them reacts and brakes...but they brake a little bit harder, repeat down the line), which causes the cascade effect backwards down the line, leading to an eventual standstill.

It's a proven and known effect.

Driving at the steady speed and leaving the gap absorbs the wave of braking, and stops cars behind from adding their own over-braking to the wave.

Fehz
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 582 Posts
Tuesday, February 22, 2011 9:45:26 AM
How traffic jams are created: People who don't know how to merge. You should merge at the speed of traffic, not 10 under, not 20 under.. It's in the driver manual for your state.. Look it up.

Fehz
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 582 Posts
Tuesday, February 22, 2011 9:40:33 AM
Slow drivers cause traffic jams.

Creabhain
Male, 40-49, Europe
 441 Posts
Tuesday, February 22, 2011 9:14:30 AM
I disagree with his contention that letting a few cars ahead only slows you down a few seconds per car. Each of those cars adds way more time to your journey at every junction or traffic light or other forced stop. Miss the green and you're another few minutes delayed. Each car ahead = 1 minute extra at least. That adds up fast.

duffytoler
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 5220 Posts
Tuesday, February 22, 2011 9:10:44 AM
How to cure traffic jams: Drive real slow.

How to cause traffic jams: Drive real slow.

FCMXD
Male, 18-29, Canada
 181 Posts
Tuesday, February 22, 2011 6:39:26 AM
job had to be on the roads, that would work. Summing up: Yes, leave plenty of space. It won't fix traffic, but it's safer for you.

FCMXD
Male, 18-29, Canada
 181 Posts
Tuesday, February 22, 2011 6:36:52 AM
I call BS.

You're not controlling traffic, you're just being courteous. However, I find that it doesn't do a damn thing to help traffic.

If I'm driving in the lane that the on-ramp merges with and I leave a huge space, you know what happens? The cars merging all speed past the empty space to where the lane ends then try to cut in.
The other problem is that it does nothing when you have all these cars using a road that was built decades ago when the population density was lower and there were less suburbs.
The roads were designed at the time that even at highest capacity, the number of lanes would offset the number of cars.

The only way you can "kill" traffic jams is by not having more cars on the road than the road can support.

So yeah, if public transit were free and buses came more often than every half hour, that would work. If you could de-centralize business that only people that physically had to be somewhere to do their

andybme
Male, 50-59, Western US
 296 Posts
Tuesday, February 22, 2011 5:15:50 AM
I've seen this guys type riding along like they're traffic controllers. Idiots, try looking back further in traffic you're causing a jam.

SvampeBob
Male, 18-29, Europe
 3088 Posts
Tuesday, February 22, 2011 5:05:29 AM
nice this man is awesome.
bigest traffic jams in my town.... 12 cars

binarystarr
Male, 30-39, Europe
 477 Posts
Tuesday, February 22, 2011 4:56:14 AM
i understand where he's coming from but there is nothing more annoying than being behind someone who leaves a huge space in front of them and lets everyone else in.

Musuko42
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2804 Posts
Tuesday, February 22, 2011 4:55:07 AM
Interesting thought: those photos of HUGE packed motorways...

...count the cars. When you get to about 25 (because most cars are generally single-occupant), imagine that patch of road being empty except for one bus. Then repeat across the entire image...

...it suddenly becomes very empty indeed.

If buses were free to use (paid by local taxes perhaps), ran frequently and reliably enough, and went to the right places, I reckon you'd get a lot of commuters using it.

And even if you don't use it, others would, clearing the jam a little for you. Everyone wins.

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