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Global Warming Skeptics Vs. Science [Pic]

Hits: 28620 | Rating: (2.7) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: lisalezah
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NotTHATbored
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 1103 Posts
Friday, February 11, 2011 2:06:17 AM
??? Shows up for me on page 5. Ha ha, kind of makes me feel trolley to be debating 5 pages back!

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10246 Posts
Thursday, February 10, 2011 11:57:04 PM
I can't find the link to this page on the homepage.

What happened?

NotTHATbored
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 1103 Posts
Thursday, February 10, 2011 10:06:34 PM
@Aquaeous Yep that sounds about right! LOL and thank you ;-D

Aquaeous
Male, 18-29, Europe
 425 Posts
Thursday, February 10, 2011 10:24:04 AM
*Checks back in*

So in summary, CrakrJak continues to engage loudly in sophistry without seeming to have a basic understanding of the science, and a few idiots seem to go along with it, presumably impressed by his ability to copy and paste uncited, unverified quotations.

...and @NotTHATbored, I think I love you.


Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10246 Posts
Thursday, February 10, 2011 8:07:29 AM
the contention I have is to what degree we are responsible


I'll certainly agree that is the issue right now. But who knows maybe this won't be an issue 30 yrs after we've taken real steps to address it.

I for one chose an energy power plan that is 100% renewable energy over a plan that was a dollar cheaper per kilowatt-hour and is only 3% renewable energy (according to the state of Texas). Specifically the price ratio was 8.50/7.50. So I figured for the extra buck it was well worth it. I certainly hope there a LOT of people who have/are/will follow(ed/ing) my example because every drop in the bucket counts.

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10246 Posts
Thursday, February 10, 2011 7:28:14 AM
[quote">All species become extinct, but Earth carries on regardless.[/quote">

We could very well be one of those species.

Hell 2.4 billion years ago there was species of bacteria which killed itself by over-producing oxygen.

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10246 Posts
Thursday, February 10, 2011 7:23:38 AM
Especially since the ice caps are melting (and the glaciers, which are both fresh water).


Unfortunately that's just going to get mixed in with salt water.
Which, granted, could REALLY dilute it significantly which would negatively effect aquatic life throughout the world.
Furthermore, wildlife on land is VERY dependent on the oceans.

skullgrin
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 915 Posts
Thursday, February 10, 2011 6:37:11 AM
theres no need for me to refute your arrangements, they already have been. CrakrJak did a great job at that. It's too bad that we wont know each other in 20 years when all of this global warming forgery really comes to pass. I'd love to see the logic you come wp with then.

Linkenberger
Male, 18-29, Canada
 1166 Posts
Wednesday, February 09, 2011 9:11:40 PM
TL;DR

Greenhouse is bunk.

NotTHATbored
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 1103 Posts
Wednesday, February 09, 2011 7:04:50 PM
** You're **

NotTHATbored
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 1103 Posts
Wednesday, February 09, 2011 7:04:28 PM
@Skullgrin Also I just want to say that your @$$ kissing makes me sick. You haven't said one thing that contributed to this conversation. Your just here. Let me and Crackr have our disagreement and butt out. If you want to lick Crackr's @$$ please get a room somewhere else.


NotTHATbored
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 1103 Posts
Wednesday, February 09, 2011 6:58:54 PM
(continued) ESPECIALLY when you take deforestation into account.

I hope you get it now!

NotTHATbored
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 1103 Posts
Wednesday, February 09, 2011 6:58:08 PM
@Skullgrin I'm just going to ignore you because you yourself have nothing to say, so there's no point in communicating with you any further. I tried to converse with you but it appears that you may not be intelligent enough to have a conversation with.

@Crackr who are you to say that the EPA and the U.S. Energy Information Administration put out false data? Give me one reliable source that says we only put out 2.9 million tons of Co2! You're full of crap!

Further you can say that the ice cores readings taken in the 1700's are unreliable BUT what about the increasingly high readings we've seen just since the 1950's? According to your theory shouldn't plants have been able to absorb our current Co2 output?

Perhaps given time that extra Co2 would be absorbed by plants that would then die trapping Co2, however it seems quite clear that plants and algae are not able to compete with the massive amount of Co2 we are putting out. ESPECIALLY when you take into acc

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17039 Posts
Wednesday, February 09, 2011 4:51:28 PM
CO2 is only a 'greenhouse gas' in a closed system, like in an actual greenhouse for growing food, and it helps us grow that food, That's why we build them.

Excess CO2 does not just float around in our atmosphere forever, Plants absorb it, and the more of it there is the faster and better plants grow, again this is why we build greenhouses for food and grow flowers.

Do you get it now ? I sure hope so.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17039 Posts
Wednesday, February 09, 2011 4:46:19 PM
NotTHATbored: Perhaps you are unaware but that data, from the 18th century, comes from ice cores. Ice cores are taken from glaciers, under that much pressure ice squeezes out all sorts of dissolved solids and gases. That is why glacier water is some of the purest natural water in the world. Those can not be taken as being an accurate snapshot of what the atmosphere was like back then.

For one thing we burned wood for fuel back then and it produced far more soot per pound than the same pound of coal burned in a modern power plant. What you see rising from power plant stacks is mostly water vapor, The EPA requires all coal fired power plants to have "Scrubbers" to capture most all of the carbon (aka soot).

Even if your claimed figures were correct, Which they aren't, That's still nothing compared to the trillions of tons of suspended carbon on earth.

skullgrin
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 915 Posts
Wednesday, February 09, 2011 4:04:55 PM
theres no need for me to refute your arrangements, they already have been. CrakrJak did a great job at that. It's too bad that we wont know each other in 20 years when all of this global warming forgery really comes to pass. I'd love to see the logic you come wp with then.

NotTHATbored
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 1103 Posts
Wednesday, February 09, 2011 2:06:23 PM
@Skullgrin Yea well your a name caller, and in my experience name callers aren't that bright, which is why they resort to name calling.

The earth is warming.

We know that Co2 traps and holds heat in. NO ONE disputes that Co2 holds in heat. We put Co2 into the atmosphere. Co2 does not lose its properties once it is in our atmosphere. Excess Co2 is not absorbed by plants. Excess Co2 stays in the Atmosphere. We put 30 million metric tons of Co2 into the atmosphere per year. Co2 traps heat. Humans contribute to global warming.

Don't tell me that I just repeat things from the global warming "scam" REFUTE MY LOGIC FOOL. YOU CAN NOT!

skullgrin
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 915 Posts
Wednesday, February 09, 2011 6:27:20 AM
CrakrJak is the only one in this thread right now who knows anything they are talking about. NotThatBored, I'm sorry but you sound like an idiot. You have no idea what you are talking about. You're simply repeating what you have been told to believe by the people behind the global warming scam.

NotTHATbored
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 1103 Posts
Wednesday, February 09, 2011 4:07:08 AM
Bottom line.

-The earth is warming causing the glaciers to melt. The glaciers are melting.

- Co2 is proven to trap heat, it does not lose it's properties once it reaches the atmosphere.

-You are wrong about how much Co2 we emit each year. Check the link I provided if you don't believe me. It is much more than you think.

-There is 36% more Co2 in the atmosphere today than in 1750, so excess Co2 emissions are not able to be neutralized by "more plants".

- Humans produce over 30 million metric tons of Co2 a year.

- Co2 traps and holds heat

- HUMANS CONTRIBUTE TO GLOBAL WARMING!

NotTHATbored
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 1103 Posts
Wednesday, February 09, 2011 4:00:56 AM
@Crackr Nice try, and we'd believe it too, if we were all a bunch of idiots.

"Any excess of CO2 is eventually absorbed by the algae and plants on earth"

If the excess Co2 is being absorbed then why is their now 36% more in the atmosphere since 1750 according to the EPA? Where are all these plants and all this algae that is supposed to be absorbing it?

"Since 1750, atmospheric concentrations of CO2, CH4 and N20 have increased by over 36 percent, 148 percent and 18 percent, respectively" - EPA Greenhouse Gas Emissions

Also you are way way off on how much Co2 we emit each year, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration in 2008 alone we emitted over 30 million metric tons. Check your facts. 2008 - Co2

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17039 Posts
Wednesday, February 09, 2011 2:24:37 AM
trudenter: It's been estimated that humans produce 2.9 million tons of CO2 per year, That's minuscule compared to the amount of suspended carbon already in our oceans, landmass, and atmosphere.

That's 1/9th of what Mount Pinatubo spewed out in a few days. Even then the earth did not warm, It cooled. The earth absorbed all that CO2 and all the other 'greenhouse gases' (Many far far worse for our planet) as well. And guess what ? We didn't die, the poles didn't melt, and the oceans didn't rise.

I know where you are getting your info, and it's a poor source. CO2 is not pollution, It's a natural part of life on earth and you, I and every human on earth exhales 2lbs, of it daily.

So unless you are advocating the removal of billions of people from earth, along with the removal all cars, fossil fueled power plants and billions of animals as well, There will be no appreciable change in the earth's temperature.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17039 Posts
Wednesday, February 09, 2011 1:54:40 AM
NotTHATbored: CO2 was only recently deemed a 'greenhouse gas' by those very people involved in the 'global warming' scam.

I know a hell of a lot more and have read more than I care to mention about 'global warming'. The problem is that science has revealed that we have been a lot warmer and a lot colder in the past and that those trend seem to coincide with solar cycles, particularly sunspots or the lack thereof (Magnetic pole reversals have had an effect as well)

Without a doubt the sun fuels our planet and conducts and orchestra of cycles of both flora and fauna. Any excess of CO2 is eventually absorbed by the algae and plants on earth, which then provides the oxygen and food for the animals and us as well. The earth balances itself, repairs itself, humans can do very little to alter that balance even if we wanted too.

You've been fooled into believing that the earth is as fragile as glass, To the contrary it is very robust and strong.

trudenter
Male, 18-29, Canada
 70 Posts
Wednesday, February 09, 2011 12:10:14 AM
@Crackr
i don't know where you got your info, but mankind produces a much greater yearly output of emissions than volcanoes

NotTHATbored
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 1103 Posts
Tuesday, February 08, 2011 10:19:48 PM
@Crackr you know, and not to be mean, this is just in my opinion, but it is people like you who are the problem. People who think their opinion must be right when they don't even know what they're talking about. You didn't even know that Co2 is a greenhouse gas! How can you honestly have an opinion on global warming?! You can look up a bunch of quotes to support your "side" all you want and paste them in, but you still won't know anything about global warming! You have no idea what is really going on or what the argument is even about! So why then do you have an opinion?!

NotTHATbored
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 1103 Posts
Tuesday, February 08, 2011 10:06:33 PM
(continued) We are not volcanos, we put massive amounts of heat trapping gasses into the atmosphere not once every ten years when we erupt, but continually!

No effect? Really?

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