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 PikoParty
Male, 13-17, Western US
 102 Posts
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Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:52:38 AM
what have we learned? people in the depression were ugly as drat |
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 hampoofegg
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
336 Posts
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Thursday, February 03, 2011 11:29:01 PM
#49, that guy is the engineer |
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 FromPortugal
Male, 18-29, Europe
305 Posts
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Thursday, February 03, 2011 1:01:18 PM
@McGovern1981 unfortunatly my dear friend as much i would like to agreed with you, every war has political, monetary and personal interests envolved...
sorry mate but its the truth...
see it on the bright side, if it wasnt for the money, or power or fear from having a growing enemy such as the nazis, it also wasnt for the simpathy...
the US leaders would never have helped in the ww2 if there wasnt an interest.
no war is a just war
and by interest i mean everything, military bases in foreing territory, etc etc etc...
every war is profitable, some way or another...
some man once said "I believe that the progressive supporters of the war have confused a "just cause" with a "just war." |
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 RobSwindol
Male, 30-39, Southern US
2053 Posts
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Thursday, February 03, 2011 10:51:05 AM
Unfortunately, Brockton, MA looks even more crappy today than it did back then.
And #16! Is that a female Napoleon Dynamite? |
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 PierreJeanFR
Male, 40-49, Europe
1336 Posts
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Thursday, February 03, 2011 10:37:14 AM
touching |
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 McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
10540 Posts
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Thursday, February 03, 2011 7:28:54 AM
Tell me how that's making money it wasn't about that Roosevelt saw the writing on the wall and wanted to keep Allied forces fighting. |
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McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
10540 Posts
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Thursday, February 03, 2011 7:26:41 AM
The total value of US military assistance was $11.3 billion (in 1940s prices, equivalent to $140 billion today). In 1972, President Nixon agreed to settle this debt for $722 million, payable over 20 years at 3% interest. However, even this piffling amount was never received. It was conditional on Russia being granted Most Favoured Nation trading status by the US government, which didn't happen until 1992. By that time the US had given up on trying to collect the debt.
So, if you ignore inflation but include interest on the US loan to Britain, the total amount the US received was $7.5 billion. The US therefore made a net loss of 31.4 + 11.3 - 7.5 = $35.2 billion. |
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McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
10540 Posts
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Thursday, February 03, 2011 7:26:26 AM
This is absolute peanuts compared with the actual value of the military material that was provided. American military assistance to Britain in World War II was worth $31.4 billion in 1940s prices. In today's money, that is equivalent to around $380 billion.
Even the $4.34 billion loan only covered around 14% of the cost of wartime assistance, and this loan was extended on extremely generous terms over fifty years. So Britain would have ended up paying less then 10% of the cost of all the equipment it received during the war.
As far as the Soviet Union is concerned, it never paid a cent for US wartime assistance.
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McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
10540 Posts
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Thursday, February 03, 2011 7:25:58 AM
@FromPortugal
So that's what your taught for history? We did it for money? You should drop the European bias and look at facts here the Lend Lease program which was made before Pearl Harbor
Under the terms of lend-lease, Britain did not actually buy the equipment but borrowed it for the duration of the war, or until it was destroyed. However, when the war was over Britain needed to keep some of the equipment for post-war use. The US allowed Britain to buy the equipment at the bargain basement price of 1.075 billion pounds ($4.34 billion at the 1945 exchange rate). So there is your exact figure. This would be worth around $50 billion in today's money.
However, as the US extended Britain a loan to make this payment the debt was not actually settled until many years later. America extended a 50-year-loan worth $4.34 billion at 2% interest. Britain didn't stop repaying until 2006 (it was six years late). Together with interest, the total amount that Britain paid |
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 minimullen34
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
179 Posts
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Wednesday, February 02, 2011 7:41:37 AM
One of the better posts on IAB in a long time |
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 cocacola311
Female, 30-39, Southern US
18 Posts
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Wednesday, February 02, 2011 5:11:18 AM
This was before kids expected everything to be handed to them and they actually had to work. I made my daughter look at these pics to see how good she actually got it! |
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FromPortugal
Male, 18-29, Europe
305 Posts
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Wednesday, February 02, 2011 1:53:26 AM
here´s a history lesson fron a non american person
Depression was in 1929, black friday, banks colapses, conspiracy theorys say that some rich families owner of some rich banks speculate in order to destroy other banks,for example The Rockefellers.monetary sistem collapses.hunger, poverty,unemployment...etc
WWII was in 1939,Europe was devastated,war was going on and the nazi were winning,US didn´t care,and it was only after the pearl harbour attack that US oficially joinned the war...it was a good chance for the United States to get loans fron europeans to help them rebuild,and get rich from helping...the US government and the US banks helped europe rebuilt itself but they also got many long term profits from it...
so...
1929 - 1933 depression
1939 - 1943 world war 2,mass production in the US, employment, jobs, war machine, industry development......all this doesn´t sound depression to me...
but the pictures are nice |
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 phoneybone
Male, 18-29, Western US
1750 Posts
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Wednesday, February 02, 2011 1:42:44 AM
"during the depression"? wasn't that in the mid-late 20's? |
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 Civas-lies
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
48 Posts
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Tuesday, February 01, 2011 8:28:15 PM
Thanks for this link. Best one today, I think. |
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 popsiclemyk
Male, 13-17, Western US
532 Posts
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Tuesday, February 01, 2011 7:38:40 PM
Thats when america was really america
#58 true grit |
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 Robert_D
Male, 18-29, Canada
594 Posts
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Tuesday, February 01, 2011 5:42:43 PM
Awesome pictures, and thanks for sharing IAB! I sometimes wonder what these people would think if they were plucked from their world and put into ours (without living the intervening 70 years). What would they think of us? What would we think of them if the situation were reversed?
Just a note, all these pictures are from 1939 to 1942 according to the page. The depression started in 1929, was at its worst around 1933, then things started getting progressively better (generally, all areas were effected differently). So while these pictures still show the effect of the depression somewhat, especially on rural areas that took longer to recover, to say these pictures were "during the depression" is somewhat misleading, as the depression, in 1933, was MUCH worse that these pictures show. |
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 SCfan
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
1679 Posts
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Tuesday, February 01, 2011 5:34:31 PM
There was nothing in there that looks as bad as Detroit looks now. |
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 SarahofBorg
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
3547 Posts
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Tuesday, February 01, 2011 5:21:13 PM
The last one with the guy who was covered in carbon soot was funny because he's smoking on top of that. I suppose if I was covered in soot every day and breathing that crap in than smoking isn't so much worse. |
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 Angelmassb
Male, 18-29, S. America
15474 Posts
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Tuesday, February 01, 2011 5:09:50 PM
Depression pictures are depressing |
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FromPortugal
Male, 18-29, Europe
305 Posts
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Tuesday, February 01, 2011 3:52:48 PM
@xiquiripat :@FromPortugal: Europe solution for overweight---> new Holocaust. See. I can be an asshat too.
lol i´m not jew, neither nazi, neither fat, neither religiuous/colour/race/anything else fanatic ... so .... i guess ...anything goes ... lol
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 SunnyNphilly
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
645 Posts
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Tuesday, February 01, 2011 3:17:15 PM
Marty McFly?
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 xiquiripat
Male, 18-29, Western US
2419 Posts
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Tuesday, February 01, 2011 2:32:07 PM
@EntrE: The stockmarket crashed in 1929. |
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 rammo34
Male, 18-29, Western US
1064 Posts
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Tuesday, February 01, 2011 2:11:48 PM
Reminds me of my grandma. Both her parents got sick and died during the depression when she was only 8 years old. She had to be raised by her teenage brothers in rural Arkansas. That always puts things in perspective for me when I think of it. |
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EntrE
Male, 18-29, Europe
538 Posts
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Tuesday, February 01, 2011 1:33:55 PM
late 30s, early 40s??? you mean 20s right? |
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 Piepig
Male, 13-17, Eastern US
1529 Posts
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Tuesday, February 01, 2011 1:06:40 PM
Works for me. And I always get amazed at how fast things change, this was relatively not too long ago... |
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