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This 12-Year-Old Will Be Tried As An Adult

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tika12001
Female, 18-29, Australia
 2195 Posts
Friday, March 04, 2011 3:32:43 AM
Wow, the gun laws in America need to be seriously rethought. Get them out of suburban homes and maybe some of these tragedies can be prevented! As for the boy, if he did do it, he's certainly old enough to be aware of what he was doing. I remember being 11 or 12 and knowing the difference between right and wrong, I'm betting he knows it too.

Linkenberger
Male, 18-29, Canada
 1166 Posts
Saturday, February 05, 2011 11:42:48 AM
I say try him as an adult, tell him he's going to jail for the rest of his life, scare the finger-licking drat out of him, then let him out in a few years. Just send him to a prison where he's not gonna get raped, and he should buck up just fine. Maybe a little counselling afterwards, some therapy during, oh yeah.

tuapui
Male, 18-29, Asia
 94 Posts
Saturday, February 05, 2011 10:33:11 AM
The kid is a result of bad parenting and negligence, not given proper guidance, and unable to control emotions and judgement, or understand morality.

The court of law putting a 12 year old on trial as an adult is irresponsible. I know there are still gray areas in 100 year old judicial systems but this is insane.

I say the parent should be responsible for the child's offence. They should be punished together.

And I agree that removing guns would reduce murders. And it would make the intent to kill alot clearer. You can impulsively/accidentally shoot a person to death, but it takes intent and fearlessness to stab a person to death. The idea is to be able to spot the difference between accidental and intentional.

TypicalJerk
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 534 Posts
Thursday, February 03, 2011 8:48:19 AM

There also seems cause to make a case for neglegance. wtf is a 12 yr old doing with a shotgun?! this should also soften the sentencing of the lil shyte.

TypicalJerk
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 534 Posts
Thursday, February 03, 2011 8:43:11 AM
premeditated? maybe, but prove it. seems more like an act of pasion to me. try him as an adult, but you will find that he couldn't even try to hide cover up the scene. manslaughter at the most. kid will be MAX 22-27 by the time he is released in such a case.

simmerdown
Female, 18-29, Europe
 62 Posts
Thursday, February 03, 2011 5:42:48 AM
@mithraela
The problem with guns is that they make murdering someone far easier. With a knife the victim not only has more of a chance to defend themselves, but it's a more personal and less distancing method of execution and therefore, harder for most people to bring themselves to do. Besides you've kind of contradicted your own argument by saying you were shot at with a nail gun, but weren't harmed becuase they're not as accurate. You had a higher chance of survival because a real gun wasn't used. What the kid did was wrong. No doubt about that, but I wonder if he would've been able to pull off murder if he'd only had a knife.

NOCASH
Male, 18-29, Canada
 424 Posts
Wednesday, February 02, 2011 1:12:53 PM
Mithraela, do some research yourself and you will see firearms are the most common weapon used in murder incidents in the USA. Firearms led the way with close to 15,000 murders in 2007, next on the list were knives or cutting instruments with close to 1800 murders. It's quite obvious that removing firearms from the public would not stop murder altogether but it would greatly reduce the number.

mithraela
Female, 18-29, Western US
 536 Posts
Wednesday, February 02, 2011 1:25:30 AM
Ignorant fools think removing guns would stop murders. If this kid really wanted her dead he would have used anything. In New York State it is even illegal to carry an 18 inch long stick. (it was the last time I checked the laws anyway.) It's because they know that people will kill with anything. Sadly, they think making sticks illegal will stop murders. All sorts of knives are illegal too, even though a kitchen knife serves pretty well for a vast amount of murders that happen. Doesn't seem any different than what they think the regulation of guns will do. Nothing. I hate gun crime as much as I would hate to be shot, but to blame the crime on the idea that the kid had access to a gun is stupid. I have been shot at in two drive by shootings, and the weapon was a phucking nail gun. Thankfully nail guns are about as accurate as peoples' thoughts concerning what will curtail violent crime. If someone wants you dead bad enough they will be creative. killers are smarter than lawmakers.

lee-schizo
Female, 18-29, Western US
 296 Posts
Tuesday, February 01, 2011 10:01:22 PM
NO the kid probably knew that he was killing her i don't think he FULLY understood she died her life ended. YOU KNOW WHAT I THINK YOU SHOULD BE A BETTER PARENT AND LOCK UP YOUR GUNS AND KEEP THEM ON KEY. probly wouldn't had happened if dada was smarter.

Zombiesrule8
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 4 Posts
Tuesday, February 01, 2011 3:51:34 PM
I wonder how innocent that mother was or the daughter makes me curious. Everyone always sees it from the victims side. Not me. I'm always curious whether they should've died or not. Is that bad?

hopeislost
Male, 30-39, Canada
 200 Posts
Tuesday, February 01, 2011 2:26:02 PM
And what's worse, CNN puts these cutesy f@#$ing photos of the little prick on tv, but not the mugshot...subliminally trying to convince us that trying him as an adult is wrong...f@#$ you CNN!

hopeislost
Male, 30-39, Canada
 200 Posts
Tuesday, February 01, 2011 2:25:22 PM
Give me a f@#$ing break. You're g##damn right he knew what he was doing. If you think that this little bastard didn't know what the f@#$ he was doing, you're either stupid or incredibly naive. Why wasn't the gun locked up properly? How did the little prick have such easy access to a shotgun? This world is going to s@#t. Lock him the f### up.

NOCASH
Male, 18-29, Canada
 424 Posts
Tuesday, February 01, 2011 7:53:33 AM
Guns are the problem, without them you silly people wouldn't have to shoot each other. You have an army for a reason as well as police, it is far too easy in these instances for a child to get a hold of a gun do horrible things like this.

britt566
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 2315 Posts
Monday, January 31, 2011 10:40:49 PM
if you're old enough to take a gun and kill someone and KNOW THAT YOU ARE KILLING SOMEONE then you are most definitely old enough to be tried as an adult.

chunkymonkie
Male, 13-17, Canada
 675 Posts
Monday, January 31, 2011 10:35:36 PM
No, some people on iab just can't accept the fact that an 11 year old can kill someone without being legally insane. If he hated his stepmom so much as to put a bullet in her head he should be willing to accept the consequences. Its not hard to realize that killing is illegal and that you'll go to jail for it. I just hope that they find more evidence besides an 8 year old, it would be terrible to put an innocent kid in jail.

dance_freek
Female, 13-17, Eastern US
 14 Posts
Monday, January 31, 2011 10:02:16 PM
most of you guys are narrow minded...you need to look at this deeper. There are so many reasons why he did this and couldnt have thought it clearly. He knew how to handle a gun and thats it. Most kids do from hunting. He probably had no concept on what he was doing, maybe from a disability, maybe cause of his age, psychological damage?

riseplease19
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 107 Posts
Monday, January 31, 2011 9:53:27 PM
death sentence. eliminate the bad seeds...

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 14351 Posts
Monday, January 31, 2011 9:15:13 PM
Just sell him to the medical college.

chunkymonkie
Male, 13-17, Canada
 675 Posts
Monday, January 31, 2011 8:50:42 PM
"Your typical 12-year-old doesn't know how to kill, at least not efficiently."

Please, he took a shotgun and SHOT HER. He knew what he was doing, an 11 year just doesn't shoot a lady and thinks he gets a get out of jail free card.

Bountykat
Female, 18-29, Southern US
 399 Posts
Monday, January 31, 2011 6:03:40 PM
"Because he's a child..." uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, he deliberately drating shot the pregnant lady.

Bountykat
Female, 18-29, Southern US
 399 Posts
Monday, January 31, 2011 6:01:47 PM
If he did it on purpose, DO IT. He'll probably grow up to do it more as an adult.

green_batman
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 730 Posts
Monday, January 31, 2011 5:55:32 PM
@bloop326: If you weren't capable of proper judgement in those things that you regret, can you say that a 12-year-old has good judgement? Yes, this is more severe than the typical actions of an irrational 12-year-old, but it doesn't mean that the 12-year-old in question has judgement any better than the typical 12-year-old.

Think of it this way: he was probably exposed to the concept of killing things by hunting, if he had his own shot gun. So he knew how to kill, but he had the poor judgement capacity of a 12-year-old. Your typical 12-year-old doesn't know how to kill, at least not efficiently. I would imagine that this has something to do with why more 12-year-olds don't kill. If we as a society decided that we were going to train our children to be deadly killers, I think we would have more deaths by the hands of children when they have moments of irrationality. This is why weapons are generally things we don't put in the hands of children, unless they are supervised.

whydoucare
Male, 13-17, S. America
 33 Posts
Monday, January 31, 2011 5:54:33 PM
Send him to the corner for 15 minutes! That should be enough.

sender02
Male, 18-29, Western US
 189 Posts
Monday, January 31, 2011 5:34:31 PM
If he's guilty, give him a life sentence. Hell, its mercy not to give him death. No matter how old you are, you don't accidently shotgun your dad's girlfriend in the gut. Most if not all of the people on this site passed the age of 12 without attempting a crime that serious, much less succeding.
If he's innocent, the daughter should be tried as an adult for perjury. Almost sending a 12 year old to jail for life is serious business.

bloop_326
Female, 13-17, Eastern US
 30 Posts
Monday, January 31, 2011 4:43:18 PM
@green_batman

I remember regretting things from when i was 12, but i never took a shotgun and killed someone. Just saying...

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