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Sarah Palin's Old Bumper Sticker Won't Help [Pic]

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Kernel
Male, 18-29, Western US
 123 Posts
Monday, January 17, 2011 6:13:27 PM
Matt, I have a feeling Jared would have just ran into the crowd with his car if he couldn't get a gun.

If you think the guy wasn't committed to his crime, watch his videos. The guy was a time bomb, and he just happened to go off. No gun laws would have stopped that.

TheDisavowed
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 24 Posts
Saturday, January 15, 2011 7:05:00 PM
I dig the bumber sticker. And there's the typical socialist comment by IAB.

T-Marley
Male, 70 & Over, Eastern US
 600 Posts
Friday, January 14, 2011 7:34:59 PM
And Matt,

Banning peanuts from ball parks and steakhouses might stop just one person from a deadly allergic reaction...

Padding all surfaces with rubber might stop one kid from breaking a bone...

Making it harder to get a car might make it easier to stop vehicular homicide, DUI's, and traffic accidents...

Banning all knives might stop the random crazy Japanese knife attacks on buses...

Making it harder to have a child might stop parental neglect, abuse, and abortions...

An age limit on cell phones might stop upskirt videos, texting will driving accidents, and a budding clique of teenagers sending nudies to each other...

Banning guns might stop the occasional Briton from getting in his Taxi and driving around randomly shooting people...

And my personal favorite: banning banks might stop abuse of credit and spending beyond your means...

Incrementally the lines are drawn until they get to tyranny.

T-Marley
Male, 70 & Over, Eastern US
 600 Posts
Friday, January 14, 2011 6:10:47 PM
Piper, you are wrong, and I will forgive your broken English as a problem with translation. You have to pass a Federal background check in every state. Any felonies bar you from purchasing, and some misdemeanors as well. There is also a mandatory three day waiting period after you buy any handgun, to stop "crimes of passion". The only exception to this rule is if the purchaser is the holder of a valid concealed weapons permit(who is more than likely carrying a gun when they buy another).

Also, you can only purchase a gun in the state that you reside. Most gun stores will not even allow you to hold a gun to examine if they ID you and see that you are from another state.

State rules do differ about permit, training, and registration requirements; however the above things hold for every state in the country.

MattPrince
Male, 40-49, Europe
 2223 Posts
Friday, January 14, 2011 1:41:32 PM
Maybe, but it's harder and that might just be enough to stop someone unstable but not committed to their cause. (Jared I think was both).

Besides, there is a good chance of a Darwinian moment with explosives.

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13380 Posts
Friday, January 14, 2011 12:15:18 PM
vv If he couldn't get a gun he'd probably figure out with some research how to make an explosive he was nuts and obviously set on killing people you can make all the laws you want but it'll still happen.

MattPrince
Male, 40-49, Europe
 2223 Posts
Friday, January 14, 2011 10:16:31 AM
I agree that painting Jared as anything other than a nutjob is wrong.

Was Jared Loughner's weapon and ammo purchased over the counter? On the day he shot 6 people dead?

Wouldn't it have been a lot harder for him to commit this crime if he couldn't do that?

piperfawn
Male, 30-39, Europe
 3887 Posts
Friday, January 14, 2011 8:56:27 AM
T-Marley i know how gun are selled in USA. Rules are differents in every state but in most of cases you just need to be 21 years old and a valid ID that's all. This don't seem me so complicated. Maybe in your state is different but ,you know, i can allways go in another state where i just need my ID and the game is done.

Oli_b
Male, 18-29, Europe
 22 Posts
Friday, January 14, 2011 5:02:41 AM
Gun sales have gone up following the shooting. Particularly in the make and model used in the shooting. Surprising really as the Glock 19 has proved an inefficient murder weapon.

http://bit.ly/i4qzR2

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13380 Posts
Thursday, January 13, 2011 12:31:58 PM
Also Mexico has very strict gun laws take a look how thats been going for them. The mafia has more power there than the government.

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13380 Posts
Thursday, January 13, 2011 12:30:17 PM
Here we go with Canadian and Europeans acting like they know whats best for everyone again. I love how people are quick to point out that pro-gun and pro-life seem conflicting when they in the same breath are pro-choice and anti-gun which is also a conflicting opinion. The facts are 2/3 of gun crimes in the US are gang related what makes you think gangs will follow any more laws created? Then you say just ban them outright sorry but in the US we don't like it when our government dictates and takes things away from us besides you'd make millions of people criminals and most likely start a civil war. I don't care how great other countries think not having a right to own a gun is this country was created and gained it's independence from the right to. Call me stupid or whatever name pleases you because of where I'm from but I'm not the one behaving like a child. I know enough never to trust a government 100% and it's part of my name.

T-Marley
Male, 70 & Over, Eastern US
 600 Posts
Thursday, January 13, 2011 9:10:54 AM
Bubba, guns were kept in centralized places because they were hidden in caches. Secondly, you can't base it off of revolutionary times, as that is pre-constitutional.

Thirdly, I can think of one FF in particular who would have absolutely loved to have a couple of SAW's.

Finally, you pick out three "scary" guns, but none of them can be bought legally in the configuration that you are talking about without a ton of money. AK's you buy are semi-auto(without going through the next step). Anything that is Class III (Full auto) requires a 3,000 dollar a year license, and you will be hard pressed to find any transferable fully automatic machine gun for less than 10,000 dollars. Most are 20,000 and above, something tells me criminals aren't buying those.

Although, at the gun store I worked at I did know an old man with an UZI that was full auto and suppressed, and it was beautiful.

T-Marley
Male, 70 & Over, Eastern US
 600 Posts
Thursday, January 13, 2011 8:59:26 AM
Koug, how about not stereotyping and being a hypocrite yourself? I love all of my bill of rights, especially my guns.

Tyson: Target shooting, skeet shooting, collecting for appreciation in value. No violence in that...

But your logic is flawed, I can think of nonviolent uses for dynamite and c4, like fishing and mining, so by your reasoning I should be able to legally purchase them.

Piper: When you actually know what it takes to buy a weapon in the US, come back and we can talk, it isn't like buying potatoes in the least. Also, Christians by their very nature and history have a great love for weapons and violence.

Kougaiji
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 606 Posts
Wednesday, January 12, 2011 10:28:15 PM
I don't mind pro-gun right supporters (in america), I just wish they wouldn't act like total ignorant hypocrites and actually have the same passion for the rest of the bill of rights...

Nburkie420
Male, 18-29, Canada
 745 Posts
Wednesday, January 12, 2011 6:49:24 PM
I'm so glad I started the flame war of Canada/US/and Europe earlier :)

xavroche
Male, 30-39, Europe
 814 Posts
Wednesday, January 12, 2011 3:29:13 PM
"Palin and crew are feeling unjustly blamed for the actions of an extremist. Maybe they can ask Muslims for advice on how to deal with that."

That just made my day...

davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
 12074 Posts
Wednesday, January 12, 2011 12:40:18 PM
Palin and crew are feeling unjustly blamed for the actions of an extremist. Maybe they can ask Muslims for advice on how to deal with that.

Crucible
Male, 18-29, Canada
 1822 Posts
Wednesday, January 12, 2011 12:22:59 PM
I agree with the yellow one.

maedene
Male, 18-29, Western US
 291 Posts
Wednesday, January 12, 2011 12:16:49 PM
i like the photoshopping job up there.

Fatninja01
Male, 18-29, Australia
 24543 Posts
Wednesday, January 12, 2011 12:04:35 PM
wow, a little late

TysonRP
Male, 13-17, Canada
 314 Posts
Wednesday, January 12, 2011 12:00:40 PM
@ZNaught - I can think of very many non-violent uses for a knife. Exactly how many non-violent uses can you think of for a gun?

Bubbarider66
Male, 70 & Over, Southern US
 60 Posts
Wednesday, January 12, 2011 11:57:33 AM
Another point, Gun ownership groups love to tout the Constitution but they always, ALWAYS, decline to cite the first and most important portion of the Second Amendment. "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State". Why do you think they put that portion first? Because it was the most important. In revolutionary times there was no armed forces. We had citizen soldiers. The Founders did not mean to limit the ability of the populace to keep firearms, but they did mean that they were to be used for a certain purpose. Even today, most of us who clamor for gun regulation still want people to be able to hunt and protect themselves, but the Founders didn't know about AK-47's, the SAW, and Uzi's. They would be horrified today to see the types of automatic weapons we have and that we allow their sale and use.

Oli_b
Male, 18-29, Europe
 22 Posts
Wednesday, January 12, 2011 11:53:39 AM
Nah. Knives are useful in the kitchen.

ZNaught
Male, 13-17, Midwest US
 351 Posts
Wednesday, January 12, 2011 11:48:08 AM
Because whenever I see a gun, I associated it with a shooting. Just like whenever I see a knife, I see a murder weapon. I say we ban knives.

NeilTheDruid
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2 Posts
Wednesday, January 12, 2011 11:45:03 AM
I don't really know much about Palin. One thing I do know is that the British media seem to see her as a bit of a joke. By the looks of things, she is so right wing it's funny.

TBF this sticker is hilariously contradictory to an outsider.

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