 rainbowfarts
Female, 18-29, Southern US
 800 Posts
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Monday, January 10, 2011 6:04:24 PM
@alibi19, no offense but considering that I study these sorts of things at a graduate level, I know all of that. The point though is even developing countries are cutting back on how many children they have. So in India, instead of having say 5 kids they're having 3 or 4 on average. My point is there are people on one side saying "omg not enough people to care for the old people! Not enough children!" and then the other side is crying "omg too many people, we're all going to starve!" It can't really be both. And especially in cases where places like Germany are expected to have only 17% of what their population in 1997 was by the year 2050 and shrinking also in other first world countries while 3rd world are evening out I don't see how we can worry about both overpopulation and underpopulation. |
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 SmilinSam
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
3603 Posts
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Monday, January 10, 2011 6:00:13 PM
this makes me more terrified of the world than any threat of "terrorism" ever could... |
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 ryan99
Male, 13-17, Western US
2349 Posts
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Monday, January 10, 2011 5:59:32 PM
@DixxyRarr
If everyone eats one person..That means in the end, there will be but one survivor :O |
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 piperfawn
Male, 30-39, Europe
3199 Posts
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Monday, January 10, 2011 5:56:14 PM
Volsunga i really hope you are right but i'm still sceptic. Our planet is not endless, we can't just keep growing at this rate also if we can find some way to absorb our requests the break point will arrive. |
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 DixxyRarr
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
2677 Posts
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Monday, January 10, 2011 5:49:25 PM
Everyone just needs to eat one person.
Not it. |
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 hammerdrop
Male, 13-17, Eastern US
199 Posts
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Monday, January 10, 2011 5:48:49 PM
was cool until i realized it was an ad |
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 Volsunga
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
1548 Posts
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Monday, January 10, 2011 5:47:22 PM
@piperfawn
energy production is not a problem because we are already moving towards renewable energy worldwide. It's simply cheaper than the alternatives. Remember that when the third world develops enough to consume like us, they will also produce like us, and with more arable surface area to work with, it all evens out. |
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 alibi19
Male, 18-29, Western US
73 Posts
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Monday, January 10, 2011 5:36:44 PM
@rainbowfarts, In developed countries the need to have children is less than in developing countries. Think of it this way: you're a farmer in a developing country. You know you're going to get old and need people to take care of you. If you have 9 kids, you will have more hands helping you in the fields and they can better support you, than if you only had like 2 children. In Short, more children=high productivity=better "retirement". Most developed countries have retirement programs so people don't have to do this. Fortunately, organizations have gone into the developing countries and educated them of how having nine kids is unsustainable, and thats probably why some people think growth in developing countries will peter out. |
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piperfawn
Male, 30-39, Europe
3199 Posts
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Monday, January 10, 2011 5:35:33 PM
Volsunga if ALL people in the world will start to consume like the so called first world,or occidental style if you prefere, there will be no new economic way that will save us from destruction.Basicaly our way of energy production is unaffordable also today and barely cover just 1/3 of world population,if the other 2/3 start to consume like us i really don't see a great future. |
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ryan99
Male, 13-17, Western US
2349 Posts
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Monday, January 10, 2011 5:35:20 PM
I'm very curious as to why they predict a sudden decrease in growth. I always expected the human population to grow exponentially? |
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Volsunga
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
1548 Posts
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Monday, January 10, 2011 5:27:08 PM
@alibi19
food production is not linear, it follows the rules of supply and demand. people are starving in the third world because in their local markets, there is a minuscule supply compared to the demand. now that there is a global market, as soon as we can cut through the political bullsh*t with their f*cked up governments, the food production curve will match the population curve for a very long time.
Overpopulation is a myth because it completely ignores the future accommodations made by the economies to support the population. |
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piperfawn
Male, 30-39, Europe
3199 Posts
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Monday, January 10, 2011 5:25:01 PM
fatninja01 you are lucky cause you live in a continent that maybe have less population than Tokyo. But if people continue to increase and consume without any rationality no matter if you have space or not, the world will be screwed anyway, yep sadly also your space. |
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rainbowfarts
Female, 18-29, Southern US
800 Posts
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Monday, January 10, 2011 5:18:57 PM
This is what I don't understand. I have to read about this stuff all the time (sociology grad student) and you have some resources saying the population is growing too much that we won't be able to feed everyone. Then I go over to other resources and they talk about how in 1st world countries the population is dramatically shrinking, especially in Western Europe and Japan and even the population in 3rd world countries is slowly leveling out too and will begin to shrink soon. What gives?! |
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alibi19
Male, 18-29, Western US
73 Posts
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Monday, January 10, 2011 5:01:14 PM
If our population increases at a exponential rate and our food production increases at a linear rate, its just a matter of time before we simply cant feed everyone. Throw in factors like the growing average lifespan and the growing ecological footprint of developing countries and it doesn't take a mathematician to figure out that we (and our environment) are in serious trouble. Environmentalists have been warning people for years about over population, but not surprisingly, nothing has been done. |
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 Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
26235 Posts
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Monday, January 10, 2011 4:46:33 PM
damn PeaceCorps!
we never should have shown the 3rd world how to get clean water and grow food! |
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 Fatninja01
Male, 18-29, Australia
23998 Posts
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Monday, January 10, 2011 4:45:11 PM
So what, i still have my space, so im happy |
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 Wildcats2008
Male, 18-29, Southern US
230 Posts
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Monday, January 10, 2011 4:34:30 PM
This seemed like propaganda for environmentalists but hey, maybe it was just me...
One thing that did bother me was that they kept referring to everyone as a global population...whatever happened to being proud of your country and where are you from? I'm not talking about radically proud and thinking your country is superior. I think we aught to be proud of our diversity and differing countries instead of insisting on being so globalist. |
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 handys003
Male, 50-59, Western US
2402 Posts
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Monday, January 10, 2011 4:30:17 PM
Don't worry it's supposed to be taken care of in 12-21-2012 |
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 8BitHero
Male, 18-29, Europe
5420 Posts
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Monday, January 10, 2011 4:28:39 PM
Pretty interesting |
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 HoneyPunch
Female, 13-17, Western US
123 Posts
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Monday, January 10, 2011 4:22:27 PM
Just stop screwing!
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NAW! |
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 Pooptart19
Male, 18-29, Southern US
2110 Posts
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Monday, January 10, 2011 4:03:27 PM
I'm gonna skip all the "We have to be wary of the population" bullsh*t and just say this:
We need to go into space. Not just low Earth orbit; I mean going to other planets. That's right, Mars, we're gonna colonize your ass and fill it with strip malls! |
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 phoneybone
Male, 18-29, Western US
1750 Posts
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Monday, January 10, 2011 3:52:02 PM
get the F*CK off my planet!! |
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 mvangild
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
528 Posts
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Monday, January 10, 2011 3:44:04 PM
@AJD121, well, that's great, but would you want to be the poor schmuck in the middle when you have to go to the bathroom? :)
Or worse yet, if someone right next to you had to go? |
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reeealybored
Male, 13-17, Southern US
6 Posts
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Monday, January 10, 2011 3:42:29 PM
did anyone else notice that of all of the pictures showed at the end, most of them were of the asian side of the world? |
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KPres
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
309 Posts
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Monday, January 10, 2011 3:37:19 PM
The rate at which the world's population grows is falling. If we continue at the current pace, the population will peak at 9 Billion around 2050, and then start falling, as it already is in much of the Western world.
http://www.humanistwa.org.au/node/433
Relax, people, you can call off the apocalypse. |
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