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5 Things You Probably Believe About Muslims

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Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10349 Posts
Thursday, December 30, 2010 6:24:34 PM
[quote">while many vocal Islamic leaders do not disavow "their" extremists [/quote">

Actually they do

DesertWolf
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 63 Posts
Thursday, December 30, 2010 2:42:56 PM
@ Cajun247
I think one of the major differences that I see between the extremist groups on the Islamic side and the Christian side (if you count KKK and Nazi as Christian) is that religious leaders on the Christian side (the vocal ones) disavow the actions (and intents) of "their" extremists while many vocal Islamic leaders do not disavow "their" extremists

DesertWolf
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 63 Posts
Thursday, December 30, 2010 2:32:47 PM
@ 5Cats - I agree, maybe a suggestion for the admin is a blog site for great topics (or flame wars :) )

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10349 Posts
Thursday, December 30, 2010 11:58:03 AM
@5Cats

Fine, but these "bombers" are neither mainstream or modern by Crakr's definition. They're the fringe extremist element of Islam. Just like the KKK, American Nazi Party, and British Union of Fascists are the fringe elements of Christianity.

In both cases neither group make up no more than 10% of either demographic (Muslim or Christian).

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26667 Posts
Thursday, December 30, 2010 5:31:33 AM
This thread should get bumped back to page 1, eh?
There are some (few) Muslim Clerics who say it IS OK to do terrorist things. This is the equivilant of a Catholic Cardinal's edict. Now in the RC church the Pope can over-rule a Cardinal, but Muslims have no current "pope" (the final prophet would fill that role, iirc) so if you're a follower of these particular Clerics, you might believe it's OK to bomb regardless of other teachings.
Not saying it's correct, and for SURE NOT all Muslims think that way, m-kay? Still, some might honestly believe they're 'defending Islam' by blowing themselves up.

DesertWolf
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 63 Posts
Thursday, December 30, 2010 5:18:54 AM
@Cajun247
Thanks for your posts and quotes. I can't argue with single line(s) taken from the holy book.
My questions are formed from the issuing of fawtas; some which allow or call for bloodshed. I don't know if there is an equal (order/request/command) from leaders of other religions. Perhaps I have this wrong and I am always looking to be educated.

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10349 Posts
Thursday, December 30, 2010 12:46:47 AM
@LtFurpie

That's akin to the Christian conception (theirs or thereof) that when one enters heaven they'll be granted wings and a halo.

LtFurpie
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 1019 Posts
Wednesday, December 29, 2010 8:48:18 PM
I didn't see any remarks about the 71 virgins (sorry 72, but I took one).

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10349 Posts
Wednesday, December 29, 2010 7:35:37 PM
And take not life, which Allah has made sacred, except by way of justice and law


Al-Anam 6:151

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10349 Posts
Wednesday, December 29, 2010 7:34:09 PM
DesertWolf

Even those who kill people with suicide bombing, these shall meet the flames of hell.

-Ayatollah al-Udhma Yousef al-Sanei

O you who believe! Do not consume your wealth in the wrong way-rather through trade mutually agreed to, and do not kill yourselves. Surely God is Merciful toward you.

-Quran 4:29

Now some have actually interpreted this as "do not kill each other" either way it condemns suicide bombing.

ruthless1990
Female, 18-29, Europe
 3016 Posts
Wednesday, December 29, 2010 4:40:07 PM
"All right. Now we look forward to a completely civil and logical group of article comments"

this ^^^^^

DesertWolf
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 63 Posts
Wednesday, December 29, 2010 3:27:37 PM
@ CrakrJak & Cajun 247
Here is one of the problems the world is having with Islam (go ahead and through all religions in there). Both of you are correct in your understanding of someone's interpretation of what the religious rules say. And before the statement of the "Correct" interpretation is thrown down by someone, please back your "Correct" version with sacred references and leading religious individual quotes or inputs... I'm looking forward to seeing opposing sacred (or scripture, if you prefer) references and leading religious figure quotes. I love religion posts :)

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26667 Posts
Wednesday, December 29, 2010 2:59:59 PM
@davymid again, haven't you yourself used the term "teabagger" here? My apologies if you haven't, that's the lefty equivilant of 'libtard' eh? Kinda, sorta.

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10349 Posts
Wednesday, December 29, 2010 11:56:39 AM
@CrakrJak

Wrong again dude. Suicide bombers are not considered martyrs because they are committing murder and attacking other's property in the process. Both of which are sins in their religion. They are not defending themselves or their property.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26667 Posts
Wednesday, December 29, 2010 10:35:47 AM
@Davymid: because I tend to speak (and type) in a direct manner, people used to get all mad at my posting (Way back when on Hostboard!) over nothing! So I started putting lots of smilies and such in to alert the thinly-skinned that I wasn't "all in their face" about something, but simply making a casual observation.
It's become a habit since then...

vv banhammer @fearno with a smile! lolz!

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17311 Posts
Wednesday, December 29, 2010 6:32:08 AM
QueenZira: Actually 'martyrdom' is not considered suicide in islam.

davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
 12137 Posts
Tuesday, December 28, 2010 11:22:49 PM
NAW! lolz! What libtard has EVER done that!

To be fair, it's genuinely difficult to engage in an intelligent debate with a man in his 40s who uses words like "libtard", and more importantly, the word "lolz!", in every f*cking post. Hey, I have a 11 year old neice. She grew out of that several years ago.

Don't get me wrong, I like 5Cats, I really do. But I'm not going to get riled by him on anything involving serious intelligent discourse.

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10349 Posts
Tuesday, December 28, 2010 7:49:43 PM
I'm tired of debating semantics with you.

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10349 Posts
Tuesday, December 28, 2010 7:49:07 PM
@5Cats

Really man just let it go you're the one whose hand has been caught in that jar my friend.


5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26667 Posts
Tuesday, December 28, 2010 5:52:12 PM
Sorry to include you in @Altaru's stoopidity there @Cajun, but Cheesus! If I went and cut&pasted everything, I'd have a wall-of-text for every post! lolz!
@Altaru: squirm all you like, you're caught with your hand in the mental cookie-jar boy, why not be a 'man' and admit your defeat? NAW! lolz! What libtard has EVER done that!

Altaru: I lost? Change the rules! Change the topic!! Accuse the other side of cheating!!!



Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10349 Posts
Tuesday, December 28, 2010 5:16:13 PM
@5Cats

In response to your picture I post mine:


Seriously dude now we're just arguing semantics

Altaru
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 3500 Posts
Tuesday, December 28, 2010 4:53:29 PM
Since I was reading a page back, and if you type something, then change pages it gets ereased

Catch up with the times, man. There's this thing called Tabbed Browsing that can save you a lot of that trouble. Hell, there's this thing called Cut & Paste that's been around even before that.

Maybe then you'd be able to actually read everything first, THEN comment. I was taught in elementary that I should wait until the speaker is done speaking before I raise my hand, to make sure he isn't plannign on answering my question anyway.

Apparently, you got an F in that...

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26667 Posts
Tuesday, December 28, 2010 3:45:15 PM



I lolz in your direction!

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26667 Posts
Tuesday, December 28, 2010 3:41:47 PM
Tuesday, December 28, 2010 9:36:33 AM

I haven't read Baalth's replies yet...



THIS post? Where I say OUTRIGHT that I haven't yet read the replies? Since I was reading a page back, and if you type something, then change pages it gets ereased THIS post?
Since I was commenting on something Cajun said, NOT what Baalth may or may not have replied, THAT is your problem @Altaru?
You guys really are idiots! lolz!

Greylights
Male, 18-29, Europe
 29 Posts
Tuesday, December 28, 2010 2:20:33 PM
LionHart2
"And Evolution is completely counter to Biblical teaching, but Christians believe in that too. You're falling right into the trap this article was trying to teach you not to, stereotyping all Muslims as religious fanatics."

I'm not stereotyping. I'm sure many Muslims do believe in evolution, but 45% sounds far too high from my experience, with most of the Muslim people I speak to in the medical profession, moderate and highly educated. Ask your Muslim friends if they believe in evolution - I'd be surprised if it was more than a handful. Islam is not like Christianity in this respect, and I have doubts as the the veracity of the statistic.

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