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A Darwinian Theory of Beauty

Hits: 28823 | Rating: (3.3) | Category: Science | Added by: QueenZira
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ROK9
Male, 18-29, Western US
 1838 Posts
Monday, December 13, 2010 10:44:57 PM
nope i don't think so

buttsdowhat
Female, 18-29, Southern US
 373 Posts
Thursday, December 09, 2010 4:00:15 PM
I could not listen to this. The dry mouth warbarble noises was just too much.

WhoaHeyDude
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 135 Posts
Thursday, December 09, 2010 2:58:49 PM
Yeah that took 15 minutes for him to spit out the last line, which made no sense considering that would basically imply that every single person on the face of the Earth is attracted to and disgusted by the same exact things. Seeing as though, as some people put it, he was both correct, and incorrect in his theory, it took him 15 minutes to explain something that I'm sure everyone who watched it already knew. Seems to me they're (don't ask me who "they" are..speakers, I guess?) are going to this whole "clever drawing along with speech" idea to mask the fact that it's just a bunch of nonsense, which I suppose it does well because I sat through all 15 minutes and didn't realize until minute 15 that he was feeding us a bunch of bull crap generalizations and ideas that could have been put out by any high school stoner.

phacter
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 6 Posts
Wednesday, December 08, 2010 11:19:51 PM
An engaging talk, and a wonderful illustrator. But I'm not convinced by the argument. I take for granted that baby-like features (roundish, small, big eyes) have an innate effect on us: it's called neoteny. But that's "cuteness", not beauty, exactly - it makes us want to take care of something despite its obvious flaws (dirty diapers and decreased mobility). There's certainly an evolutionary underpinning to attractiveness as well (symmetry, health, youth & status are sexy). I can even consider that something “done well” might be beautiful for the same evolutionary reasons. That would suggest that USEFUL artistry (like an axe or a chair) would be more beautiful than USELESS artistry (music or sculpture), and that is dubious. But his explanation of the beauty of the vista – the most archetypically beautiful thing he discussed - cannot be correct. He forgets that we also find such beauty in the uninviting: deserts, arctic seas, storms, & tigers.

SoberGuy
Male, 18-29, S. America
 347 Posts
Wednesday, December 08, 2010 10:24:53 PM
wow.. is this speech being made at beakman's world?

Kalimata
Male, 30-39, Canada
 660 Posts
Wednesday, December 08, 2010 10:09:49 PM
I thought this was a fantastic lecture. Well delivered points and ideas, something I will definitely give thought to.

P.S. it is pronounced Van Goghk, like klingon. The dude was dutch, it's a common sound in the dutch language, not Van Go as anglaphones tend to pronounce it.

unicornsrus
Female, 13-17, Midwest US
 44 Posts
Wednesday, December 08, 2010 9:49:10 PM
interesting...watched the whole thing... he has a good point... guy drawing was really good...

premierwondr
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 979 Posts
Wednesday, December 08, 2010 3:55:23 PM
Too long to watch but you thought you would take the time out to post about it being too long?
I know TLDW only takes 3 seconds to type, but seriously c'mon.

To the topic.
He's right, and then he's wrong. I don't think people can say that beauty is entirely evolutionary.
Beauty is not entirely in the eye of the beholder either.

Also how do we draw the lines between liking, loving, and being fascinated by something?

PBZebras
Male, 18-29, Western US
 208 Posts
Wednesday, December 08, 2010 3:19:51 PM
agreed with landfill, my time is precious when i come to IAB

landfill
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 22 Posts
Wednesday, December 08, 2010 2:29:26 PM
Too long. Did not watch.

Jackson13W
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 153 Posts
Wednesday, December 08, 2010 8:20:21 AM
handaxes as tools that became less functional and more athstetic. i hear people say that about macs. coincidence?

Jackson13W
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 153 Posts
Wednesday, December 08, 2010 8:06:07 AM
TARDIS @ 3:28! i paused the video to scroll down and declare WIN! back to it.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17170 Posts
Wednesday, December 08, 2010 7:31:19 AM
AnImbroglio: I'm saying that beauty is beauty because of it's rarity. Things that were once thought to be hideous when they were originally made are now considered beautiful because they are rare, Which blows his explanation right out of the water, imho.

liberalirony
Male, 18-29, Europe
 196 Posts
Wednesday, December 08, 2010 7:03:27 AM
Transcription is on TED.com along with similr videos. Nice to see something that doesn't involve dumb people injuring/demeaning themselves

GZas
Male, 18-29, Europe
 93 Posts
Wednesday, December 08, 2010 5:47:31 AM
So how do you explain being amazed by snowy and dessert landscapes (just look at the wallpapers attatched to Windows XP or Vista), which are surely not surviving-friendly. Also, why is pooty pop and rnb music more popular than classic stuff? It's certainly not done well, and it could be performed and created by a deaf retard.

Tisjokar
Male, 18-29, Australia
 991 Posts
Wednesday, December 08, 2010 3:44:27 AM
Intellect increased by 15!

almightybob1
Male, 18-29, Europe
 4278 Posts
Wednesday, December 08, 2010 3:30:07 AM
inaria: I agree. In fact, there is a chart for it.


number43
Male, 70 & Over, Asia
 765 Posts
Wednesday, December 08, 2010 1:54:06 AM
Lost me when he said "Van Gock [sic]"

junkaddy
Female, 30-39, Western US
 261 Posts
Wednesday, December 08, 2010 12:38:58 AM
Oh good, I'm not the only one who couldn't listen to the whole thing because of his mouth noises...although I did make it almost halfway through. Wonder if there's a transcription of it somewhere.

bryantm3
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 169 Posts
Wednesday, December 08, 2010 12:18:05 AM
meh, i think it's crap. on a personal note, i don't find the 'savanna' pictures appealing, i find them sterile and disturbing.

coffeekoneko
Female, 18-29, Europe
 1012 Posts
Tuesday, December 07, 2010 9:40:25 PM
I had to stop halfway through the fourth minute because of that horrible mouth smacking noise.

AlANeptune
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 262 Posts
Tuesday, December 07, 2010 9:27:40 PM
TLDNW

inaria
Female, 18-29, Canada
 1521 Posts
Tuesday, December 07, 2010 9:08:47 PM
@Caretta I think it's ingrained in our evolution because of the design of our own babies. Large eyes, big heads and little bodies makes us swoon as a whole because that's what our babies look like. It gives us an emotional attachment to the baby and makes us want to take care of it more. It's also why we love cats and bunnies and puppies, because they have similar proportions to human babies.

thisismary
Female, 18-29, Southern US
 100 Posts
Tuesday, December 07, 2010 7:57:29 PM
The sound of spit in his mouth drove me crazy and I had to stop about five minutes in. But it was pretty interesting.

HOBOMOE
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 515 Posts
Tuesday, December 07, 2010 7:37:05 PM
I'm glad I'm not the only one happy about the Doctor Who reference.

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