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Should Pluto Be a Planet After All?

Hits: 16461 | Rating: (2.7) | Category: Science | Added by: midnightblis
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mollyscary
Female, 13-17, Western US
 260 Posts
Monday, November 29, 2010 9:43:15 PM
Pluto; Forever Alone.

ROK9
Male, 18-29, Western US
 1838 Posts
Monday, November 29, 2010 1:29:40 AM
stupid science

raikun12
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 580 Posts
Saturday, November 27, 2010 10:49:39 PM
yay Pluto! I'm rooting for you!

BrimstoneOne
Male, 30-39, Canada
 2239 Posts
Saturday, November 27, 2010 10:14:31 AM
hmmm...several person missed out on geography and science class. Considering that the ancient Greeks calculated the the circumference of the Earth and had it spot on. And sadly most to all the "flat earth stuff" originated in the late 19th and early 20th centuries by people that where afaid of the technological pace of advancement (we'd call such persons technophobic by todays standards).

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33910 Posts
Saturday, November 27, 2010 7:57:33 AM
Ah HA! You guys were trying to confuse the issue!
Here is a link to a website that PROVES the earth is FLAT!

Flat Earth Society

It's science, dude!

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33910 Posts
Saturday, November 27, 2010 7:33:41 AM
"many years ago people thought the world was flat"

It not? ... You're sure?

Has anyone Goggled this?

davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
 12074 Posts
Friday, November 26, 2010 11:29:55 PM
Just proof scientists don't know half of what they think they do. Hundreds of years ago, scientists were CERTAIN the world was flat and the Earth was the center of the universe. Keep up the good work, geniuses.

Aw, you failed science class. No biggie, we still love ya.

Prejudiced
Female, 18-29, Australia
 250 Posts
Friday, November 26, 2010 11:24:23 PM
As for no evidence, if you want to exclude maps from such evidence there is still literature describing such things. Using the Chinese example again, here is a passage from the

"Heaven takes its body from the Yang, so it is round and in motion. earth takes its body from the Yin, so it is flat and quiescent"

Zhang Heng's cosmogony (Although not recent, its a good one to show literary descriptions)

Interestingly enough, some Chinese scholars calculated that the earth was flat, but bulging upwards.

Prejudiced
Female, 18-29, Australia
 250 Posts
Friday, November 26, 2010 11:20:15 PM
Angilion, China until the 17th century (with the introduction of western sea based astronomy) did believe the earth was flat. :\

Thats pretty modern for such an ancient beleif.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11420 Posts
Friday, November 26, 2010 10:16:28 PM
Yeah, so many years ago people thought the world was flat


While your main point is right, there's no evidence of people in the past thinking the world was flat.

There are some ancient depictions of a flat world, but it's not known whether they reflect belief in a flat world, are a symbolic/religious depiction of the world or simply reflect the fact that art had not yet developed far enough to make any attempt at depicting a 3D object on a 2D surface.

Certainly everyone has known the world isn't flat at least as far back as the beginning of recorded history. The size of the Earth was first measured about 2400 years ago. Erastothenes...bah, I'm going to have to look it up now.

Eratosthenes, about 2250 years ago. I was close.

Trojan
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 512 Posts
Friday, November 26, 2010 9:29:39 PM
Pluto is just an icy piece of garbage. It's not worth distinction as a planet.

inaria
Female, 18-29, Canada
 1521 Posts
Friday, November 26, 2010 9:10:21 PM
@BostonKaiser The great thing about science is that our understanding of the world evolves and changes over time as we incorporate new discoveries into our basis of knowledge. Yeah, so many years ago people thought the world was flat...they also used to think sperm contained little men, and that if an animal stretched its neck enough it would elongate and be passed onto its offspring. Now we don't. How is that a bad thing?

xiquiripat
Male, 18-29, Western US
 2419 Posts
Friday, November 26, 2010 7:00:40 PM
They should call it a "planette" da dum tish!

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11420 Posts
Friday, November 26, 2010 5:57:12 PM
Just proof scientists don't know half of what they think they do. Hundreds of years ago, scientists were CERTAIN the world was flat and the Earth was the center of the universe. Keep up the good work, geniuses.


You're just burbling against science. Either you have no idea what you're talking about or you're lying as propaganda.

If you think I'm being unfair to you, prove your claims. Show me all those scientists who were CERTAIN that the world was flat. Here's a free clue - there never were any, not even one.

You're on slightly stronger ground with geocentrism, but (a) it matched observations pretty well and (b) the first natural philosopher ('scientist' is a much later word) known to have argued against it was Aristarchus of Samos in 270 BC, who correctly argued that the sun was the centre of the solar system.

The people who were CERTAIN that the Earth is the centre of the universe were the Christian authorities, not scientists.

agamemnon
Male, 18-29, Western US
 216 Posts
Friday, November 26, 2010 5:32:48 PM
To those of you claiming that Pluto is a planet, I challenge you to give a definition of "planet" such that:

1) The eight currently accepted planets fit the definition,
2) Pluto fits the definition,
3) the other 4 dwarf planets and 60+ dwarf planet candidates do not fit the definition, and
4) the definition is natural. That is, it doesn't make arbitrary distinctions just to satisfy 1-3.

Profworm
Male, 30-39, Western US
 307 Posts
Friday, November 26, 2010 5:13:08 PM
My bad, I know better than to respond before reading the source. :P Last I'd heard they thought it might not be the largest object, I didn't know that had changed.

Profworm
Male, 30-39, Western US
 307 Posts
Friday, November 26, 2010 4:57:55 PM
Astronomers aren't even sure that Pluto is the largest object out around its distance. However, it is made up of a large amount of materials that reflect light really well, making it easier to see that most of its neighbors.

Science has to be able to reclassify things based on new information, and that goes for EVERYTHING. Science that ignores facts in favor of sentimentality is not science.

handys003
Male, 50-59, Western US
 2402 Posts
Friday, November 26, 2010 3:20:19 PM
Poor Pluto! We should be ashamed of such discrimination of this mere outcast of a planet. Just because Pluto is not in the normal planetary clique of the inner most eight. I mean come on look at it! It's lonely all all by itself. Come home Pluto I still love you. Please no more discrimination.

DuckBoy87
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2661 Posts
Friday, November 26, 2010 2:57:25 PM
I'm glad Pluto is no longer a planet. It makes Gustasf Holst's suite entitled 'The Planets' complete!

No I personally would call it a dwarf planet as long as it is still a planet.

doopliss75
Male, 13-17, Southern US
 73 Posts
Friday, November 26, 2010 2:28:04 PM
"Just proof scientists don't know half of what they think they do. Hundreds of years ago, scientists were CERTAIN the world was flat and the Earth was the center of the universe. Keep up the good work, geniuses."

You do realise we still haven't got a clear photo of pluto and its demotion was based on an estimation of size; then again you probaly didn't.
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I believe in keeping Pluto as dwarf

ruthless1990
Female, 18-29, Europe
 3016 Posts
Friday, November 26, 2010 2:17:16 PM
@BostonKaiser
people didnt all think the world was flat, that hasn't been believed for a very long time.
i know it wikipedia but heres one source
and heres another more reliable source

also i dont think you have any right to diss scientists, who work hard all their life to bring in new discoveries, for what is not a lot of pay.
also i hope ur not just trolling, which i know could be the case, but i thought i would present the facts just in case

vicious_liar
Male, 13-17, Europe
 1229 Posts
Friday, November 26, 2010 2:15:03 PM
"Just proof scientists don't know half of what they think they do. Hundreds of years ago, scientists were CERTAIN the world was flat and the Earth was the center of the universe. Keep up the good work, geniuses."

No. Any real scientist wouldn't say that. At best it would be "We're fairly sure ZYX", just like scientists say now.

deathxtra
Male, 13-17, Western US
 2810 Posts
Friday, November 26, 2010 2:14:18 PM
who cares?

Fatninja01
Male, 18-29, Australia
 24543 Posts
Friday, November 26, 2010 1:46:16 PM
If its bigger than you it should be a planet, thats the safest way to view it!

Angelmassb
Male, 18-29, S. America
 15498 Posts
Friday, November 26, 2010 1:20:13 PM
Well Pluto IS a planet, a dwarf planet, so the deal is not if Pluto should be a planet or not but if it should be a Dwarf planet or a Inner planet

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