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Who Won What Yesterday? Looks Like A Red USA

Hits: 20603 | Rating: (2.3) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: 5Cats
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furryblob
Male, 18-29, Europe
 577 Posts
Tuesday, November 16, 2010 3:51:44 AM
Voting against their own best interests.

ROK9
Male, 18-29, Western US
 1838 Posts
Sunday, November 07, 2010 10:49:43 PM
sad

EricWRN
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 593 Posts
Friday, November 05, 2010 6:30:07 PM
Oh and that's not how freedom works in this country. Everyone is given freedom until they prove they don't deserve it. "Innocent until proven guilty". You don't have to earn freedom or earn rights or be granted them by a corrupt and inefficient government. That's why we have a constitution. Correction: that's supposed to be why we have a constitution and we've gotten away from it so much people (like yourself) don't even grasp the concepts that the constitution stands for. Carrying a firearm is a constitutionally granted right of american citizens.

EricWRN
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 593 Posts
Friday, November 05, 2010 6:24:28 PM
Um, i've never heard anybody bitch about having to take a class to get a CCW permit, most people think it's a pretty good idea. I think cars are much more dangerous than guns, frankly. They certainly kill a lot more people and they kill people "accidentally". Accidental gun deaths aren't common.

And I'm not even sure what the hell you're talking about "people not taking responsibility". I think we can all agree on that but what exactly does it even have to do with the conversation? What "people" are you talking about? I went on and on in my rant about how many people I know that own guns and I've never known someone who used one irresponsibly. Cars, on the other hand, I know lots of people who have used them irresponsibly and hurt, even killed other people.

Altaru
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 3500 Posts
Friday, November 05, 2010 11:41:27 AM
Now about this "toy box"... please seek psychiatric help, m-kay?

Please seek proper english education. It's a metaphor for having to actually get up off your ass and get something yourself through personal effort instead of just having it handed to you. Namely, the right to wield a murder weapon.

Altaru: I have a concealed carry permit which allows me to carry a concealed pistol in about 30 states and in order to get it I HAD TO TAKE A CLASS.

And people bitch about THAT, for Christ's sake.

With rights and freedoms comes responsibility. If people don't want to accept the responsibility, they shouldn't be given the freedoms.

PierreJeanFR
Male, 40-49, Europe
 1337 Posts
Friday, November 05, 2010 9:11:56 AM
red USA! Ahah the chinese communists took it over at last

EricWRN
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 593 Posts
Friday, November 05, 2010 5:52:25 AM
Altaru: I have a concealed carry permit which allows me to carry a concealed pistol in about 30 states and in order to get it I HAD TO TAKE A CLASS.

I think most people who live around liberal-crowded cities and suburbs would be utterly shocked and offended to know just how many private citizens in this country safely and legally maintain and carry firearms.

And I find it extremely irritating that when I travel to my home (new jersey) I have to stop on the drive up to "safely store" my firearm away from my person, because you know who doesn't seem to care about firearms laws? Criminals. Sorry but if you want to murder someone a wait period, a concealment law, nothing is going to stop you from procuring a firearm and carrying it and firing it. Furthermore I hate my neighbors and we don't get along yet we've never gotten in a shootout! Firearms don't create murderers or crime - both existed long, long before guns.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26317 Posts
Friday, November 05, 2010 5:38:52 AM
Insurance companies have stopped insuring children seperately. So now, ALL children are uninsured, lolz! Since they cannot possibly calculate risk vs cost, the companies will no longer offer it!
WAy to go liberals! Another 'for the children' plan has utterly back-fired...

EricWRN
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 593 Posts
Friday, November 05, 2010 5:24:43 AM
... why people don't think these principles apply to healthcare administration.

And I understand there are parts of Obama-insurance that have already taken effect, what I don't understand is how they are an improvement on already existing systems. For instance, how does the obama-insurance version of providing "free healthcare for all children" differ from what Medicaid already does? And I'm sorry to sound like a jerk but making it mandatory to accept patients regardless of pre-existing conditions is complete bullpoo. What's next, you can get a new auto-insurance plan AFTER you get in a car accident??? Life insurance AFTER someone dies? The whole thing is unconstitutional, immoral, and downright fraudulent management of an institution that politicians know NOTHING about.

EricWRN
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 593 Posts
Friday, November 05, 2010 5:17:34 AM
Septhiroth: you clearly didn't read everything I wrote (though it was lengthy), because I already blame George Bush ALMOST as much as Barack Obama. I don't blame Obama for starting this mess, I blame him for making it worse. And it's funny you bring up the Great Depression because the great depression was extended so long because of government meddling and a "tax and spend" mind-frame! The Great Depression was commandeered by the most liberal and dictatorial american president in history.

And sorry, but "healthcare" and "health insurance" are separate issues and to suggest to providing people with "free health care" will create "improved health care" is completely false. The only thing flooding a market of LIMITED RESOURCES does is create rationing and decrease product quality as it has to be distributed more widely. These are very simple and common-sense economic fundamentals and I don't understand for the life of me why peop

BetterBob
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 169 Posts
Thursday, November 04, 2010 9:50:55 PM
What are you retards ranting about now?

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26317 Posts
Thursday, November 04, 2010 7:33:51 PM
Map Of State Elections
"There's 2 levels of government" "there's 3 branches of goverment"
Um, biggest state-level wave ever? Most Republican States since 1928?

Now about this "toy box"... please seek psychiatric help, m-kay?

Altaru
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 3500 Posts
Thursday, November 04, 2010 6:13:41 PM
repeating yourself doesn't make your liberal BS any more true. Grow up little boy.

Right... I'm the little boy because I'm NOT screaming about the fact that I might just have to actually walk to the f*cking toy box to get my toys...

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26317 Posts
Thursday, November 04, 2010 5:31:34 PM
Is it wrong to take measures against a clear and present danger that's already caused and is still causing problems?

Altaru is PRO-LIFE! lolz!
Also repetitive: hint Alty: repeating yourself doesn't make your liberal BS any more true. Grow up little boy.

Altaru
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 3500 Posts
Thursday, November 04, 2010 4:16:41 PM
Is it so horrible to have to take a class or something before being allowed to walk around with a deadly weapon in your possession? Maybe said class could also teach other self defense methods, home defense methods, etc. A gun shouldn't be something you rely on, it should be your last fall-back when everything else has failed.

Classes should also teach how to securely store them, etc., to prevent accidents or thefts. I'd be willing to bet a fair few of the illegal weapons are actually stolen in the first place...

@5BrainCells...

Still doesn't make you less of an idiot.

Altaru
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 3500 Posts
Thursday, November 04, 2010 4:11:36 PM
Altaru: Either we all enjoy the same freedoms or we live in fascism, I'm guessing you're leaning toward a liberal elitist fascism, With your gun comment.

Is it wrong to take measures against a clear and present danger that's already caused and is still causing problems?

If you have any "reasonable" ideas about the regulation of firearms in America I'd be interested in hearing them. Just keep in mind that the second amendment specifically states that the people have a right to keep and bear arms.

Education. Pure and simple. I want people to know just WTF they are holding when they pick up a gun. It is a weapon, it can and will kill things, and it can and will escalate any problem into a live-or-die situation.

I want people to know that a gun should ALWAYS be a LAST RESORT or hunting tool, and NEVER a toy or something to show off.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26317 Posts
Thursday, November 04, 2010 4:06:45 PM



(that's BAD kitty there actually, caption fail, lolz!)

Altaru
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 3500 Posts
Thursday, November 04, 2010 4:03:50 PM
Since I did mention, and it is often the case here at IAB, that someone else wrote the caption, EH?

I wasn't referring to the caption, but the title. As far as I've known, they don't usually change titles unless they notice something's wrong AFTER it's been posted.

If it wasn't you, then fine, I'm sorry. But it just seemed like something you would do in the first place.

In the case that it WASN'T you, then obviously the mod who passed it needs to get a clue.

And did a fine job I am happy to say!

And for agreeing with said dumbass mod, you have proven no better than he, and made my original point valid again... I take back that apology.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26317 Posts
Thursday, November 04, 2010 3:24:12 PM
You made claim of a red USA, I said you were wrong, there's 2 chambers, and one is STILL BLUE.

So no, you're still a f*cking idiot.



Thanks @Altaru, for clearing that up!
And for proving, once and forever, that you are a complete douche!
Since I did mention, and it is often the case here at IAB, that someone else wrote the caption, EH? And did a fine job I am happy to say!
SO for not knowing a BASIC IAB rule (don't blame the OP for the caption) you are FAIL!
For nit-picking and going 'nuclear' over a truely TRIVIAL detail? FAIL!
I will now cease to hold even a tiny shred of respect for you, buh-bye!

SephirothA83
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 963 Posts
Thursday, November 04, 2010 2:51:05 PM
But I personally won't be surprised in a couple years we're having the same back and forth discussion on the economy and all the other issues at work.

How long did the great depression last? People don't want to wait half as long for it be fixed this time around, and I think people are not quite understanding that not only is it our depression but it's a global one, more than the Great Depression was.

SephirothA83
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 963 Posts
Thursday, November 04, 2010 2:47:22 PM
@EricWRN

I don't think you understand that when you're talking about healthcare, you're also talking about health insurance. Now, not all portions of the act have been put into place yet, although republicans would like to tout that nothing more is going to happen with it.

I urge anyone to check out csmonitor.com and look it up to get the facts.

Now as far as your comment about taxes and unemployment, unemployment has always been the last thing to recover in an economic downturn.

I don't think you can place the fault entirely on Obama, although you and others will, I can at least say I remember when my hours were getting cut before Obama was even elected, and my team being short handed through the holiday season was to be expected, and to me it's no surprise employment hasn't bounced back yet.

It's going to take time for businesses to be motivated to hire because of the instability, but most people are done waiting.

EricWRN
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 593 Posts
Thursday, November 04, 2010 2:43:16 PM
Sephiroth: And now we've seen that spending a trillion dollars throwing money around and creating debt and printing more money really isn't such a great "plan"! Guess what: obama didn't do anything to fix healthcare - he addressed health INSURANCE and not even in a clear manner. He didn't fix the banks: the fed just made money MORE available in the last few days. And you're definitely right about Obama increasing taxes... and look what that's done: more unemployment. For some of us that's not a shock because rich people don't pay taxes, they just move their money around and usually that means their employees get paid less or laid off.

If an employers taxes go up by 5% guess what... he's not going to just suck it up and lose 5% of his profit, he's going to cut 5% of what he spends. And that means he won't lose a dime but his employees will bear the burden.

EricWRN
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 593 Posts
Thursday, November 04, 2010 2:33:51 PM
Sephiroth: And now we've seen that spending a trillion dollars throwing money around and creating debt and printing more money really isn't such a great "plan"! Guess what: obama didn't do anything to fix healthcare - he addressed health INSURANCE and not even in a clear manner. He didn't fix the banks: the fed just made money MORE available in the last few days. And you're definitely right about Obama increasing taxes... and look what that's done: more unemployment. For some of us that's not a shock because rich people don't pay taxes, they just move their money around and usually that means their employees get paid less or laid off.

If an employers taxes go up by 5% guess what... he's not going to just suck it up and lose 5% of his profit, he's going to cut 5% of what he spends. And that means he won't lose a dime but his employees will bear the burden.

SephirothA83
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 963 Posts
Thursday, November 04, 2010 2:27:08 PM
The problem there being is that it's going to keep the rich rich, while hurting everyone else. Boehner can tout that he wants to extend it to all income groups, but then you have to wonder, if your cutting taxes what are you cutting to make this budget balanced?

My instincts from the republican party point to things they consider optional, eduction being near the top of that list. Which is already hurting by being pigeonholed by a terrible NCLB policy, and I know the problems with that personally since my spouse is an educator.

Having to teach kids to a test when you have one kid that has parents heavily involved in the learning process, like I was when I was little, and one kid that has his mom in jail, doesn't know who is dad is, and lives with his hispanic grandmother that doesn't speak a lick of english is no way to grade schools funding.

SephirothA83
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 963 Posts
Thursday, November 04, 2010 2:22:29 PM
@CJ

As much as I agree with you that we do need fiscal responsibility, most of the problems that caused this mess with the economy were blatantly ignored until it had boiled over.

I don't quite agree with the cost of the healthcare bill, but I do believe something had to be done to healthcare.

I don't agree with bailing out the banking institutions, they caused their own problems with their corporate greed.

But the thing I can agree on is that something had to be done, McCain had no plan and neither would Palin for that matter, and with how terribly Bush' presidency ended up Obama was a shoe in to win office.

The main problem I see with the republican party now is that they will get Bush' tax cuts made permanent which helps out the top out more than the middle or the low, which we've seen it not help the economy in the way it needs to be helped

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