 lilwitch
Female, 18-29, Canada
 18 Posts
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Thursday, October 28, 2010 2:27:48 PM
he didn't fail me i'm not American |
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 Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
9533 Posts
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Saturday, October 23, 2010 6:51:29 PM
They need a plan in place for general housing of gays in the military. There needs to be some magnitude of segregation or it will cause a poostorm of discrimination and harassment problems which nobody wants to deal with right now.
It hasn't elsewhere. I expect USA soldiers can cope as well as soldiers of other nationalities did.
All this happened in the early 90s in the UK. There was raving and there were comments like yours, reasonable comments expressing a genuine concern about potential problems without being irrationally prejudiced themselves.
Then they just removed homosexuality as an issue in the military and nothing much happened. Soldiers came out, openly gay people applied to join up and...one senior officer resigned. The only issue since then has been soldiers *in uniform* at homosexualist political rallies. It wasn't an issue that they were there, just that they were there *in uniform*. |
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 DrProfessor
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
3524 Posts
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Friday, October 22, 2010 1:48:07 PM
drating READ, god damn you.
"The administration argued that changing it abruptly "risks causing significant immediate harm to the military and its efforts to be prepared to implement an orderly repeal of the statute."
Toobinsaid the administration would like Congress to deal with the issue on a political level and doesn't want the courts to take it on unilaterally.
A measure that would repeal the policy after a military review and approval from the president, defense secretary and Joint Chiefs chairman has passed the House and awaits action in the Senate.
By battling the legal challenge to the existing law -- a traditional practice of the U.S. government -- the administration is trying to buy time to implement the repeal process worked out with military leaders and contained in the legislation before Congress." |
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DJDoubleb
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
381 Posts
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Friday, October 22, 2010 11:46:44 AM
Could be wrong but it seems that Obama saw the ban was going to be lifted by congress. Seeing the current leaders approval ratings plummet, he thought it would be better for them to do it instead of the courts. |
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 NexusLetum
Female, 18-29, Western US
149 Posts
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Friday, October 22, 2010 3:04:01 AM
Why do people seem to think the President is so omnipotent? Essentially speaking, he CAN'T do this without support from military leaders and Congress, mostly the military. Or rather, he could, but the likelihood that some hopping mad General wouldn't like it so much that he'd take some troops to 'reclaim the nation' is strangely high at this time. So rather than be remarkably reckless, Obama recognizes that as the 'Commander in Chief' he is mostly a figurehead in the chain of command. (I don't care what you military types say, there is no reason this couldn't happen if people were given enough motive)
Now I don't agree with him, and I wish people would get their heads out their asses, but he's got to involve all the branches of government to do this. He's got to put all arguments to rest by unequivocally stating that every part of the government supports the change. THAT'S how bad this situation is! It's going to take a long time to get this done right. |
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 5Cats
Male, 40-49, Canada
16919 Posts
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Thursday, October 21, 2010 5:13:26 PM
The late senator Robert Byrd- DEMOCRAT -was once a Grand Wizard of the KKK. He wrote a long letter in 1946 (iirc) how he'd sooner resign than serve in a US Armed Forces with ni**ers!
But when faced with the integration of blacks into the regular forces, mixed units! he didn't resign! (coward!)
My point is that many armies allow various sexual orientations, and they still function! Segregating gays would be counter-productive IMO. Just END DADT and if some folks don't like it? They can leave!
That Obama still pushes DADT is further proof that the MSM is 100% biased! |
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 Fatninja01
Male, 18-29, Australia
23995 Posts
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Thursday, October 21, 2010 2:39:43 PM
meh.. |
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 Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
9438 Posts
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Thursday, October 21, 2010 12:37:16 PM
@OldOllie
Far from the worst idea I've ever heard, mostly because I don't think we need to do that. I think when DADT gets repealed a lot of people (soldiers) are going to figure out they fighting along with competent homosexuals the whole time (as in when they come out of the closet). |
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 Kegomatix
Male, 18-29, Western US
1079 Posts
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Thursday, October 21, 2010 12:31:34 PM
Oldollie, I agree.. That would be a good start.
And kralmir, thank you!
Cartunze, hilarious. |
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 kralmir
Male, 18-29, Europe
351 Posts
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Thursday, October 21, 2010 12:25:55 PM
if i am fighting side by side with people i expect everything except for "who is the bad guy and how do we kill him without dieing ourselves" to not even drating exist, if you are whining and bitching about anything you are a faggot(drat you if you think this insult should apply to gay people) and should drat off, only >everyone< in the military should have the right to give their drating opinion about all this anyway, but nobody else. |
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 Cartunze
Male, 60-69, Western US
727 Posts
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Thursday, October 21, 2010 12:14:55 PM
Well, I totally agree with President Obama on this. If we had a gay army, no one would want to fight us, because, you know, that would be gay. |
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 OldOllie
Male, 50-59, Midwest US
8712 Posts
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Thursday, October 21, 2010 11:59:51 AM
I have a solution that would DEFINITELY work but would NEVER be implimented: segregated gay units. One of the reasons that blacks were able to overcome racism and prejudice when the armed services were integrated was because the segregated black units had proven their worth by performing with exemplary courage and honor. Gays could do the same thing given the chance. |
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Kegomatix
Male, 18-29, Western US
1079 Posts
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Thursday, October 21, 2010 11:19:55 AM
tainteddeity 13-17 years from Europe
..... It ESPECIALLY has nothing to do with you so stfu people need to start thinking about what we ALREADY IN THE MILITARY want. |
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 tainteddeity
Male, 18-29, Europe
856 Posts
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Thursday, October 21, 2010 10:12:19 AM
You tell em, Kegomatix! People shouldn't be concerned about injustice unless it's happening to them!
Wait, no. That's a drating stupid idea. Injustice is injustice. Stop guilting people into silence. |
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Kegomatix
Male, 18-29, Western US
1079 Posts
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Thursday, October 21, 2010 9:46:47 AM
All these people that are complaining about it as if its their business need to stfu.. Unless you are in the military already or gay it is no concern of yours so I don't understand why these retards go and protest about it... If it were a vote within the existing military... HAH I wish it were because it would be shot down so fast. |
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 vorpalsword
Male, 18-29, Western US
1429 Posts
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Thursday, October 21, 2010 8:05:33 AM
The military isn't a country club.
The only thing it should be worried about is killing people and breaking things.
If having gays in the military helps that goal, great! If not, then it shouldn't happen.
oh be original, this post is almost word for word copied from something Rush Limbaugh and many other pundits have said. |
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Blayed
Male, 30-39, Southern US
5 Posts
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Thursday, October 21, 2010 7:50:48 AM
How has he failed me by overturning this, precisely? |
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 pmarren
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
3381 Posts
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Thursday, October 21, 2010 6:02:00 AM
Me thinks Barry doth protest too much... makes me a bit suspicious. |
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5Cats
Male, 40-49, Canada
16919 Posts
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Thursday, October 21, 2010 5:44:36 AM
vv Yup @vorpalsword, that's it in a nutshell!
Although DrProfessor didn't change the subject, which is Baalth's #1 method of arguement. Still, all this spinning makes for delicious schadenfreude! Yum yum! |
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vorpalsword
Male, 18-29, Western US
1429 Posts
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Thursday, October 21, 2010 5:09:30 AM
"Well if... oh... DrProfessor has already done everything I came in here to do... "
is that pick apart minor unimportant things of an article to show blind support for Obama? |
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5Cats
Male, 40-49, Canada
16919 Posts
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Thursday, October 21, 2010 12:52:57 AM
So if the SCoTUS said abortion was legal, that would overturn all anti-abortion 'laws'? Well, YES! It does!
And if the Gov't said "Oh, just give us a while, we got abortion legislation in the works..." you'd agree?
Face facts Angilion: The SCoTUS can be very powerful. IF the 'law' is illegal, it's GONE! At least after it passes the appeals process - lolz!
YEah AuburnJunky, I'm LOVIN this!
DADT - a Democrat policy! (Clinton)
Obama promised to overturn it, now? Not so fast! Lolz!
Listening to DrProfessor (and Baalth) spin and spin = priceless!
@kummi90 as AJ mentioned, Bush signed the Democrat Congress's 'bailout' while Obama signed the Democrat Congress's STIMULUS, which did absolutely nothing. So thanks for supporting Bush! Have a nice day! |
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 handys003
Male, 50-59, Western US
2402 Posts
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Thursday, October 21, 2010 12:19:20 AM
@kummi90
No the bail outs did not save jobs, and did not save the economy. The country is still at 10% unemployment. That's not counting the rest of those who came off unemployment insurance the past year. It's almost double around 20%. People are not spending money. Hawaii's tourism alone is down 45% needless to say other tourists spots in the USA. The National debt is over 13 trillion and climbing. The Feds are getting ready to raise the interest rates. The Chinese own half our currency with T-Bills, and are on the verge of mass selling thus flushing the value of our currency down the toilet. Please as a European stay out and quit telling us what the stability of our country is. You have your own problems in France and England as it is. |
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Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
9438 Posts
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Thursday, October 21, 2010 12:03:43 AM
You're welcome I'm going to bed. |
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 auburnjunky
Male, 30-39, Southern US
8680 Posts
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Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:43:45 PM
Oh.
Thanks cajun. |
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Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
9438 Posts
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Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:21:05 PM
@auburnjunky and OldOllie
No that's dead wrong those policies were repealed when DADT was enacted. |
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