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 Shnard-dog
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 228 Posts
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Tuesday, October 05, 2010 6:29:35 AM
Are liberals more intelligent than conservatives?
Crakr, here is an actual academic journal article to consider. |
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 CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
14374 Posts
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Monday, October 04, 2010 11:54:24 PM
Source: NY Times |
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 whatevs
Female, 13-17, Eastern US
126 Posts
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Monday, October 04, 2010 7:16:28 PM
come on guys, chances are if we have accounts on this site we're really not smart enough to have sensible political debates. |
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 Altaru
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
3498 Posts
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Monday, October 04, 2010 6:59:52 PM
Also, You could make the same 'Hitler' comparison to the popularity Obama once had. It's a misused and overused comparison, Because neither of them are similar to Schicklgruber.
Can you not see how you just proved my point?
Numbers mean NOTHING, because large gatherings of stupid people still only have enough brain cells to make a couple moves in chess.
The number of followers NEVER means someone is right. It means they're charismatic, loud, obnoxious, and are able to convince people that "I'm on your side!"
Then again, It's likely your belief that 'smart' people are a minority and 'dumb' people are the majority, Which would be really condescending.
And you're going to tell me I'm wrong? Studies (and common sense, and just overall general observation) show that, in general, stupid people breed more. Also, in general, stupid parents don't exactly raise geniuses. |
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CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
14374 Posts
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Monday, October 04, 2010 5:15:05 PM
Altaru: I believe your analysis is lacking because every liberal that's had a similar TV or radio show has had low ratings.
Then again, It's likely your belief that 'smart' people are a minority and 'dumb' people are the majority, Which would be really condescending.
Also, You could make the same 'Hitler' comparison to the popularity Obama once had. It's a misused and overused comparison, Because neither of them are similar to Schicklgruber. |
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Altaru
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
3498 Posts
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Monday, October 04, 2010 11:46:24 AM
That's why he has one of the most watched news commentary shows on TV and a huge radio program audience as well.
You know some other most watched shows on television?
Professional Wrestling and American Idol.
he drew 500,000 people to the steps of the Lincoln memorial. Yeah, Idiots draw audiences like that all the time.
You know who ELSE could draw large crowds and make grand speeches and get people together under one massive banner? Adolf Hitler. Maybe not an idiot, but a genocidal psychopath at the least.
Your arguments just don't holding any water once someone puts them under scrutiny.
And before you start pulling out all that "Altaru must be a liberal, since he's attacking all the conservatives," bullsh*t, it's cause there's really nothing the liberals have said that I can tear down. For that matter, they really haven't said ANYTHING that hasn't been torn down already... |
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Altaru
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
3498 Posts
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Monday, October 04, 2010 11:34:29 AM
Put up or STFU! Y'all can easily accuse, but cannot back up your words with shiite!
5BrainCells, STFU yourself.
I wasn't trying to prove a point. I wasn't taking sides. I wasn't involved. I was simply stating that, if you want to make an accurate comparison that proves a point, you should use pictures taken at similar times, from similar locations.
I don't give a f*ck which one did or didn't fill the grounds. (BTW, learn WTF you're talking about before telling anyone to STFU. They filled the grounds of the Lincoln memorial, dumbass.)
I was stating that, from a scientific point of view, the pictures that Crakr posted could not be used as an accurate comparison.
The ones in your post, on the other hand, could.
Don't bitch at me until you actually understand what I was f*cking saying, assh*ole. |
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 MyJobSucks
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
177 Posts
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Monday, October 04, 2010 11:09:47 AM
@CrakrJak - Britney Spears goes platinum, Sarah Palin has all kinds of a following. People actually do watch Jersey Shore. So yeah, people WILL listen to stupid people. The fact that Beck is successful does not indicate that he is intelligent whatsoever. Glenn Beck is REALLY stupid. And he's a Mormon. |
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Dolomyte
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
102 Posts
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Monday, October 04, 2010 9:10:44 AM
@paddy215
Yes, he was a hypocrite. He was also a sexist, where women were subordinate to men, and he supported child labor, (at one point on his estate he forced the slave children to forge nails so he could sell the nails and fund his expansions on his mansion). The idealogy that all people are equal was not originally Jefferson's, it was that of his college professor, William Small. I believe the idealogy stands on it's own merits and deeply influenced the founding documents, although compliance to the idealogy has been a struggle since the beginning. |
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 meepmaker
Male, 30-39, Southern US
6716 Posts
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Monday, October 04, 2010 7:04:56 AM
Now thats a big sign. |
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Shnard-dog
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
228 Posts
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Monday, October 04, 2010 6:21:27 AM
"Roosevelt did a hundred times more in his first term than Obama has done so far."
We're living in a slightly different time than when Roosevelt was in office. |
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CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
14374 Posts
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Monday, October 04, 2010 4:32:37 AM
Nburkie420: Yeah sure, Glenn Beck is an idiot, That's why he has one of the most watched news commentary shows on TV and a huge radio program audience as well. That's why his books are on the NY Times best seller list and he drew 500,000 people to the steps of the Lincoln memorial. Yeah, Idiots draw audiences like that all the time. <sarcasm> |
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 paddy215
Male, 18-29, Europe
1549 Posts
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Monday, October 04, 2010 2:51:46 AM
@Dolomyten Are you serious? Jefferson had pooloads of slaves, he was clearly racist and obviously didn't treat black people as equals, making him a hypocrite. |
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bryantm3
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
168 Posts
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Monday, October 04, 2010 12:38:23 AM
@5Cats
the rally to restore sanity is on october 30. i don't recall one being on oct 2, and i'm not sure of anyone else that does. who called that rally? this is a bad comparison. |
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 5Cats
Male, 40-49, Canada
16974 Posts
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Sunday, October 03, 2010 10:43:31 PM
[quote">It's so completely obvious that those pictures were taken at completely different times of the day.[/quote">
SO Altaru, please provide us with pictures of the liberals FILLING the White House grounds, like Beck's rally did? Obviously with 100's of cameras and Mass Media persons, such pictures must be EASY to find? No? Can't find ANY? Perhaps that's because they DON'T EXIST? lolz!
Put up or STFU! Y'all can easily accuse, but cannot back up your words with shiite!
(I suggested this link for IAB)
Side By Side Photos |
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Dolomyte
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
102 Posts
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Sunday, October 03, 2010 8:06:27 PM
@Nburkie420
Not everything Glenn Beck says is completely idiotic, he has some remarkable points and some absurd points. It is the effects of highly compartmentalized thinking, where 2+2=5 sometimes. I thought his rally was hilarious, all that hype and then at the moment, the very pivotal moment, he had nothing substantial to say. |
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 Nburkie420
Male, 18-29, Canada
745 Posts
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Sunday, October 03, 2010 7:37:29 PM
CrakrJak- Glen Beck is actually the most idiotic person I have ever heard speak. Those that listen to the sh it he spews is just as stupid. |
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Dolomyte
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
102 Posts
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Sunday, October 03, 2010 5:06:56 PM
@MTKK
Also during the colonial period Thomas Jefferson often took cases for African Americans pro bono in order to express his personal idealogy, although he lost every case, the idealogy came apparent in the wording of the Declaration of Independence, We hold these truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal and endowed with unalienable rights... This is in stark contrast to the Divine Right of Kings, where one person, the King, was ordained by god to have unalienable rights. All men as worded by Thomas Jefferson was obviously including African American men as well. |
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Dolomyte
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
102 Posts
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Sunday, October 03, 2010 4:57:33 PM
"...at the Revolution, the sovereignty devolved on the people; and they are truly the sovereigns of the country, but they are sovereigns without subjects...with none to govern but themselves; the citizens of America are equal as fellow citizens, and as joint tenants in the sovereignty." CHISHOLM v. GEORGIA (US) 2 Dall 419, 454, 1 L Ed 440, 455 @DALL 1793 pp471-472
That is a US Supreme court decision in 1793 to express the meaning. |
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Dolomyte
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
102 Posts
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Sunday, October 03, 2010 4:54:29 PM
@MTKK
Since your field is American history allow me to help you in your studies by pointing out some flawed perspective to the founding documents.
First of all the united States of America is a republic not a democracy. The Constitution guarantees to every state a Republican form of government (Art. 4, Sec. 4). Republican government. One in which the powers of sovereignty are vested in the people and are exercised by the people, either directly, or through representatives chosen by the people, to whome those powers are specially delegated. In re Duncan, 139 U.S. 449, 11 S.Ct. 573, 35 L.Ed. 219; Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. (21 Wall.) 162, 22 L.Ed. 627. [Black's Law Dictionary, Fifth Edition, p. 626]. The difference of a democracy and republic is in where the sovereignty is vested. In a democracy, sovereignty is vested in the majority, a.k.a majority rules. In the united States of America sovereignty is vested in each person with no one to govern but themselves, se |
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CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
14374 Posts
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Sunday, October 03, 2010 3:53:47 PM
Altaru: Even the mainstream press estimated the 'one nation' crowd at it's peak to maybe be 10,000,
Beck had 50 times that many people. |
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MTKK
Male, 18-29, Europe
28 Posts
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Sunday, October 03, 2010 3:01:36 PM
@ tridirk
Yes, I have been to Illinois on many occasions, since I have family in Chicago. I am also well-acquainted with the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, the Federalist Papers and the Bill of Rights, as my field is American History.
I also happen to know that 1/3 of the people who signed the document you quoted were slave owners, and that the contemporary American lobby system is a disgrace to the idea of democracy, as is the fact that antiquated winner-takes-it-all electoral votes can circumvent the popular vote. |
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 DavioMagnifi
Male, 13-17, Midwest US
601 Posts
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Sunday, October 03, 2010 2:21:22 PM
@ Shnard-dog
Roosevelt did a hundred times more in his first term than Obama has done so far. |
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Shnard-dog
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
228 Posts
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Sunday, October 03, 2010 12:35:50 PM
"It doesn't matter if he's black or white. He hasn't done ANYTHING he promised to do. He's been completely MIA. I can't even remember when I last saw him in the news. I hope he isn't too shocked when he doesn't win a second term."
Maybe if you listened to or watched the news and didn't spend all of your time on the internet you'd hear about Obama. Seriously, people are so quick to piss and moan that he hasn't done anything yet, but he's been in office for a year-and-a-half. The people who want to see him fail are the one's talking about how he hasn't done anything. We live in a time of instant gratification, to point that if the president (a single person) can't fix all of our problems in a matter of months, we feel justified in calling the president lazy and a promisebreaker. If people would look for ways to help get things back on track rather than sitting around blaming others all of the time, maybe things would change. |
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 margot138
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
323 Posts
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Sunday, October 03, 2010 12:33:11 PM
Why didn't they say this is Bush also? |
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