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 HerColdHands
Female, 18-29, Western US
 463 Posts
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Friday, October 01, 2010 5:04:15 PM
Not uncommon. My middle school didn't let you have any piercings what-so-ever and would kick you out if you refused to remove the piercing. |
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 DickenMcHunt
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
1140 Posts
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Friday, October 01, 2010 1:54:18 AM
@Genocyde
That fact that something so ridiculous is happening in America. Land of the free my ballsack. |
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 Genocyde
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
711 Posts
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Thursday, September 30, 2010 10:55:31 PM
I have only one thing to ask here and it is this.
What exactly makes this news? |
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 cunegonde
Female, 30-39, Southern US
160 Posts
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Thursday, September 30, 2010 7:51:24 PM
Facial piercings are not allowed at my job; I wear a nose stud anyway, but if my boss ever decides to make an issue of it you'd better believe I'd take it out--immediately. Sometimes life isn't "fair", kiddies, and we have to go along to get along. Take the nose ring out, stupid, before you get expelled. |
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 7-90
Female, 18-29, Western US
1 Posts
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Thursday, September 30, 2010 11:03:32 AM
Officially the most pointless stupid thing I have clicked on today. Kids ere getting suspended for the same crap when I was in school, but now it's news cuz she claimed some bs religion? C'mon, the mom obviosly isn't mad, she should just enjoy her time off and stop being an attention whore. |
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PTPete
Female, 30-39, Western US
1199 Posts
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Wednesday, September 29, 2010 1:34:52 PM
When my mom was in (Catholic) school the hems of their skirts had to be long enough to show no more than an inch of skin above their bobby socks. Thankfully, Jesus Christ was born & changed all that when he became Student Body President. Dang, momma, you OLD! |
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 Fazerella
Female, 13-17, Europe
109 Posts
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Wednesday, September 29, 2010 10:04:47 AM
I think the thought process is that if you allow one student to wear a nose piercing, then it just escalates. There has to be a line drawn somewhere.
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 Mighty-
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
201 Posts
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Wednesday, September 29, 2010 8:13:54 AM
I have to agree with the last few paragraphs. her religion does not require her to wear her jewelry at all times. I do not agree with the school however, clothes are one thing, but hairstyle, jewlery, tattoos. thats completely different. |
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 CodeJockey
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
2403 Posts
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Wednesday, September 29, 2010 7:11:34 AM
Baal, I live in Dearborn, Mi, high populous of middle-eastern families.
Not long ago, a woman sued a judge who had demanded she remove her facial covering, for identification, before being heard.
She claimed she would only do it for a female judge or bailiff in private, he stated neither was available and there was more than a little president of females ID'ing themselves in such situations.
On top of it, calling across the parking lot to the main police station was an option overlooked in the heat of the moment.
She refused, he tossed her case. She sued and lost.
Personally, I think that fits a violation similar to that in the current argument.
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CodeJockey
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
2403 Posts
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Wednesday, September 29, 2010 6:53:20 AM
"...I don't know what the school's uniform policy is on hairstyle if it has any at all..."
Doesn't matter if they have a policy. If a person showed up with dreads and was stopped, if he explained "I follow Ras'," there should be no issue.
She explained "I follow COBM," it shouldn't matter if anyone thinks it's stupid, two phone calls would prove/disprove it as a federally recognized religion. "News" should never have happened.
Now, by not making those two calls, her civil rights have been violated even if she just claimed COBM, off-the-cuff.
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poetTE
Female, 18-29, Southern US
25 Posts
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Wednesday, September 29, 2010 6:37:51 AM
Whats so wrong with a freaking nose ring anyway?
At my school you couldn't wear hoop earrings that were bigger than a quarter, this actually had a reason though. I went too a ghetto school and some chick got her earring ripped out in a fight.
But a nose right? Why? Because it's not "normal"? Times are changing people... |
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 Baalthazaq
Male, 18-29, Asia
4753 Posts
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Wednesday, September 29, 2010 5:35:50 AM
Ok. Look.
It is not racist to say "You, and I, are different". That is a huge mistake to make.
It is racist to say "You, and I, are different, and that automatically makes one inferior to the other".
THAT is the racist mentality.
What you are encouraging by saying "To be equal, we should all be the same", is bad because it encourages the racist mindset above, even though it is against my first sentence.
"No one may wear any religious symbols of any kind at school. That way everyone is equal."
I wear a cross and I'm better than you?
I wear a scarf and I'm better than you?
How about one group of people being allowed to wear something (Diving gear at a French pool is allowed), but someone else is not (Woman was kicked out for wearing a Burkini)?
Equality != Forced conformity. |
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Baalthazaq
Male, 18-29, Asia
4753 Posts
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Wednesday, September 29, 2010 5:30:36 AM
"Just go the French way. No one may wear any religious symbols of any kind at school. That way everyone is equal.
Outside of school, wear what the hell you want."
Except, if we go the French way, outside isn't fine either.
It should be better known as the Turkish way. The Turkish tried it a long time before Europe. Result: 600'000 fewer women in university since then, dragging this "progressive" secular democracy lower than Saudi Arabia for female education.
So, education loses, freedom loses, equality loses, women's rights loses.
Battle against headgear: Win!
As long as the important things are taken care of. |
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 jimbobsthebe
Male, 18-29, Europe
614 Posts
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Wednesday, September 29, 2010 5:06:22 AM
Just go the French way. No one may wear any religious symbols of any kind at school. That way everyone is equal.
Outside of school, wear what the hell you want. |
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 Samsquanch
Male, 30-39, Canada
794 Posts
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Wednesday, September 29, 2010 3:41:10 AM
I belong to the Church of Pot Smokers and Chronic Masturbators, and it's against my freedom of religion to not be able to smoke pot and masturbate all day at work. |
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 SvampeBob
Male, 18-29, Europe
3088 Posts
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Wednesday, September 29, 2010 3:39:00 AM
Stupid dress code |
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 Solvent
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
2697 Posts
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Wednesday, September 29, 2010 3:29:21 AM
This is just plain stupid. |
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Baalthazaq
Male, 18-29, Asia
4753 Posts
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Wednesday, September 29, 2010 3:14:39 AM
ericka:
sometimes when people dont put any punctuation in there sentences it becomes difficult to read it makes every sentence bleed into the other it doesnt differentiate lists and so on and so forth but what bothers me more actually like i said earlier before i was in this thread i said that new lines are more important than punctuation periods bullet points at the end of the day you just want to be able to read it and spacing helps that it was spacing earlier that would have made the list this list following lists the earlier list all come together properly not that that is a problem after all it makes total sense that people should have to spend 20 minutes deciphering a post when it would have taken a tenth of a second if that though probably not to put a couple of periods in it so overall i think its a fair request but not incumbent on you to comply but it might mean people don't read it see |
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 CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
14374 Posts
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Wednesday, September 29, 2010 3:02:11 AM
CodeJockey: I've read up on the 'snake handlers' and they don't allow kids to handle the snakes, Adults only. So that's a moot point. As for the dreadlocks I thought only the guys wore them, But for argument sake, I don't know what the school's uniform policy is on hairstyle if it has any at all and they may be allowed.
This claim of the 'Church of body modification' is obviously ridiculous and weak. Besides I thought there were age restrictions on piercings in most states. |
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 iCyborg
Male, 18-29, Asia
178 Posts
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Wednesday, September 29, 2010 1:20:13 AM
"Church of Body Modification"
Seriously, nowdays ppl don't even put any effort :sigh: |
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 ericka225
Female, 18-29, Western US
219 Posts
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Wednesday, September 29, 2010 12:23:08 AM
umm im writing a comment not an essay lolz you got the gest of what i was sayin do you realy care if i have periods in my sentences |
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 eskimo9
Male, 18-29, Australia
710 Posts
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Tuesday, September 28, 2010 11:19:00 PM
According to the wiki article, it has federal recognition as a non-profit organisation. Is that the same as a federally recognised religion? If not, she loses. If so, school loses.
Schools have to impose dress codes for the same reason governments implement seemingly minor laws - you have to draw the line somewhere. If you let a kid wear a nose ring today, gauges tomorrow, horns the next, where do you stop? If a kid comes to school completely naked, with scales grafted all over their body and swords instead of finger nails, is that too far? Safer to draw a safe line knowing it might eventually get pushed back.
Aside from that it's not a bad thing anyway, as it teaches discipline and an awareness that you can't do whatever the hell you like with no conseqeunces, and sensitivity to the environment which will help later in life. |
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 handys003
Male, 50-59, Western US
2402 Posts
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Tuesday, September 28, 2010 11:08:38 PM
Yeah I blong to the church of "We Smoke This Sh*t". Doesn't mean I can walk out on the street and express my freedom of speech. (face palm here) |
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 feiku
Female, 18-29, Western US
530 Posts
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Tuesday, September 28, 2010 10:37:45 PM
ericka--periods exist. Longest sentence ever.
And yes, I understand why the school is banning it. They're afraid that if they allow that nose ring for the Church of Body Modification then a bunch of other kids are going to get more serious piercings and then try and get away with it by using the religion excuse. So I get both sides. My personal opinion is that she should be able to wear her nose ring, but if the school says she can't, then she can't. When you're 14 and attending a public school your rights don't really exist. |
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 Fatninja01
Male, 18-29, Australia
23995 Posts
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Tuesday, September 28, 2010 9:45:55 PM
O snap, chirch of body manipulation! |
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