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Your Sunday Bible Message [Pic]

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Rudy-Duh
Female, 18-29, Southern US
 40 Posts
Thursday, September 30, 2010 10:08:41 AM
ii love IAB but they shud really keep this kinda stuff off here.. ppl get to heated n everything jus goes down hill...

PTPete
Female, 30-39, Western US
 1244 Posts
Wednesday, September 29, 2010 2:43:43 PM
@ kitw90--hilarious!!!
I've always wondered what the world (or my life) would look like if every single commandment, rule, law, & suggestion from the Bible was followed & acted out in our modern day setting. Hmmm...(**dream sequence) Chapter 1--PTPete is stoned for being an unclean harlot who engages in...speech.
Nevermind.

osirisascend
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 3029 Posts
Wednesday, September 29, 2010 5:18:35 AM
@ dax2009: So no response to my fulfilling your request for a passage condoning slavery? You asked for one passage, I provided four, and can direct you to more if you need them.

But you won't.

Like most brainwashed "Christians", you refuse to accept that your holiest text is filled with contradictions, and the laws of men trying to consolidate their power.

Not God.

Like most Christians, you talk a good game, but your knowledge of the "Holy" Bible is so weak that you have no way to counter anyone who DOES know the Bible, and points out that YOU don't know what the book contains.

Perhaps you should try actually READING it in it's entirety instead of basing your knowledge on what you hear in "Church".

Thanks for playing.

dax2009
Female, 50-59, Midwest US
 322 Posts
Tuesday, September 28, 2010 10:05:16 PM
8BitHero: yes, many many Christian women abide by this, and have no shame in it, nor do they consider that it makes them less than a man. It is supposed to be an example to the world of the relationship that Christ has to His bridew, the church... He died for it, and a man is expected to die for his wife, if need be.

dax2009
Female, 50-59, Midwest US
 322 Posts
Tuesday, September 28, 2010 10:01:24 PM
Mat 19:8 "He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so." That pretty much covers slavery, also. Gd was dealing with real people in a real discourse. Slavery is with us now, and always has been. So has the poor. God doesn't say being poor is right, either, but He gives directions for how to behave if you are poor or rich. Remember: Mat 19:30 "But many [that are] first shall be last; and the last [shall be] first." and what I said earlier - "there is no male or female, slave or freeman, Greek nor Jew, for all are one in Christ Jesus".

8BitHero
Male, 18-29, Europe
 5426 Posts
Tuesday, September 28, 2010 5:59:32 PM
Si, Christian females abide by this?

SumRandom1
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 795 Posts
Tuesday, September 28, 2010 11:28:49 AM
its a book, that all there is to it, somebody will read some science fiction book (scientology) and start a religion, if enough people follow it 2000 years later then its a strong religion, either way its a book written by people, not GOD who decided to appear and translated it into GREEK so all the europeans can follow it, thats why i find south americans and a lot of african-americans to be hypocritical, since Christianity is a forced religion upon them, through submission and slavery, yet they so openly embrace it, that is my opinion if you dont like it thats your problem not mine

osirisascend
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 3029 Posts
Tuesday, September 28, 2010 5:50:54 AM
CrakrJak: I reiterate, I studied the "Holy" Bible for many years. More than just the King James version. I'll put my knowledge of that particular book up against anyone.

That being said, I am also aware of the fact that I am not the "final authority" on the "Holy" Bible.

I encourage anyone who is interested to study the book themselves, in as many translations as they can find, and draw their own conclusions.


osirisascend
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 3029 Posts
Tuesday, September 28, 2010 5:43:17 AM
CrakrJak: Each of those verses condones slavery.

Therefore, slavery is sanctioned and approved of in the "Holy" Bible.

There are indeed several translations of the "Holy" Bible that substitute the word "servant" for "slave".

Those translations were made hundreds and in some cases thousands of years after they were originally written.

I offer you this verse as well:

"As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you." Deuteronomy 20:10-14

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17298 Posts
Tuesday, September 28, 2010 5:34:07 AM
osirisascend: None of those says 'Slavery is a good thing', and on several of those you (as many others do) substitute the word 'servant' for 'slave'.

osirisascend
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 3029 Posts
Tuesday, September 28, 2010 5:32:47 AM
@ dax2009: You asked for one, I gave you FOUR.

I can show you many more if you'd like. The "Holy Bible" is rife with hypocrisy, contradictions, and the will of MAN, not God. For this reason I do not consider myself a "Christian" and left the organized church over 15 years ago.

By the way, I was ordained as a minister in the Church of God in Christ in 1988. I spent most of my formative years studying every translation of the "Holy Bible" I could get my hands on.

I am confident in the claim that I know the "Holy Bible" inside and out... better than most Bible "scholars" in fact.

I have NO PROBLEM sharing the lies and contradictions it contains with brainwashed sheep like yourself.


osirisascend
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 3029 Posts
Tuesday, September 28, 2010 5:23:44 AM
@ dax2009: "Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ." Ephesians 6:5

"Tell slaves to be submissive to their masters and to give satisfaction in every respect; they are not to talk back, not to pilfer, but to show complete and perfect fidelity, so that in everything they may be an ornament to the doctrine of God our Savior." Titus 2:9-10

dax, I can show you more if you need them.

It's quite obvious that you claim to be a "Christian", yet like most "Christians" you know nothing of your churches most "holy" text.

I happen to have been born into a family full of holier-than-thou "Christians" and ministers.

Perhaps you should try reading and comprehending what the book says before trying to claim what it DOESN'T say. You have no credibility.

osirisascend
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 3029 Posts
Tuesday, September 28, 2010 5:18:19 AM
@ dax2009: "When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again... And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways she may leave as a free woman without making any payment." Exodus 21:7-11

osirisascend
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 3029 Posts
Tuesday, September 28, 2010 5:17:40 AM
@ dax2009: "However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way." Leviticus 25:44-46


Somehowfunny
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 41 Posts
Tuesday, September 28, 2010 4:54:36 AM
ROTFLMFAO!!!

I love those wacky Christians with their crazy 'god book'.


HamMan1
Male, 18-29, Europe
 10 Posts
Tuesday, September 28, 2010 4:07:36 AM
Religion starting aggro?? well i never..
love the fact that this'll be defended by a woman saying it means something else... i just want to have the bible open on this page and tap it at her as she does with raised eyebrows...

eskimo9
Male, 18-29, Australia
 710 Posts
Tuesday, September 28, 2010 2:06:16 AM
@bonsushi - perfect! You got it, pal! Just the same as you take some governmental laws (murder and rape, I hope) literally, while assume that smoking weed and running the occasional red light doesn't apply to you!

Baalthazaq
Male, 18-29, Asia
 4753 Posts
Tuesday, September 28, 2010 12:57:51 AM
Moefreak:
Moe, as I said, when arguing the specific meanings of words, the original text is vital. Sometimes, we don't have the original text (Jesus was thought to speak Aramaic for example), but a single translation is superior to a second or third and so on.

Again, I have always said that, and it seems reasonable.

This brings up my earlier point of the text itself being OK, but the interpretations being a result of time and environment.

I actually agree to an extent with Xavroche. In fact his response to me is exactly what I was trying to say.

Though I stated the Bible included a Quran equivalent because of the Psalms which were the work of David (a Prophet), under the direction of God under Islamic tradition.

However that tradition isn't present in Christianity, so I'll revoke that statement.

dax2009
Female, 50-59, Midwest US
 322 Posts
Tuesday, September 28, 2010 12:24:14 AM
moefreak, please find me one passage in the bible that says that slavery is a good thing.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17298 Posts
Monday, September 27, 2010 10:13:24 PM
moefreak: I don't have a PHD in Theology, So I refer to the opinions of those scholars that do.
Most of them agree on the critical issues of the Bible and have done research on the rest. After all, They have vast resources available to them going back to the Dead Sea scrolls and even older.

So, I am not 'interpret(ing) on behalf of anyone else', I'm following the most accepted interpretations of experts of my denomination.

bonsushi
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 382 Posts
Monday, September 27, 2010 8:56:10 PM
OH I GET IT. I'm supposed to take the good parts of the Bible literally, and all the bad parts are just some sort of encrypted message that means something good in the end! Am I doin it rite?

cregil
Male, 50-59, Southern US
 12 Posts
Monday, September 27, 2010 8:16:25 PM
I want that in my wedding vows!

SarahColleen
Female, 18-29, Western US
 1225 Posts
Monday, September 27, 2010 8:09:10 PM
Well.. I guess I'm not a Christian now...

moefreak
Female, 18-29, Europe
 1969 Posts
Monday, September 27, 2010 6:49:47 PM
CrakrJak, you can ignore my point all you want. That doesn't make it any less valid.

Do you, or do you not, believe that you have the right to interpret on behalf of anyone else which parts of the bible are to be taken at face value?

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17298 Posts
Monday, September 27, 2010 5:39:36 PM
moefreak: If you can't be bothered to look and see the difference between slavery and servitude, Then you have no business lecturing literalness vs. figurative in the Bible to someone that does.

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