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 Caretta
Male, 18-29, Europe
 541 Posts
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Saturday, September 25, 2010 6:21:24 PM
The religious understanding of the word "purity" is curiously naive. It's a narrative concept. It makes sense within the boundaries of stories, but it doesn't encroach upon the real world.
Science is not pure, and the theories it provides are not taken as such.
In the event of any shred of reasonable doubt, a revision is necessary, but it's these doubts and the subsequent revisions which constitute the main strength of science.
"Tossing out some science, While keeping other science is" the most sensible recourse one can take when presented with the universe.
It's not pure, but those explanations which raise the fewest reasonable doubts are as close as anything is ever likely to get. |
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 skaterboy17
Male, 18-29, Canada
299 Posts
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Saturday, September 25, 2010 6:07:09 PM
Also, if someone wants to debate my argument, do so, but please don't as immature as to be a spelling Nazi, typos happen. |
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 duffytoler
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
5220 Posts
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Saturday, September 25, 2010 6:04:42 PM
Oh great, the highly vocal and depressingly stupid religious people are embarrassing us in front of the rest of the world. Again. |
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skaterboy17
Male, 18-29, Canada
299 Posts
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Saturday, September 25, 2010 6:03:34 PM
(cont.) evidence is found, then the theory adapts, which is the whole point of the scientific model. Christianity is based on a book. Well, it's based on the currently accepted translation of said book. Even Christians know that translations have been lost over time. Hell, whole books of the bible have been lost or *ahem* misplaced so as to morph Christianity the way that the present leaders at the time wanted it to be morphed. Christianity doesn't listen to reason, it doesn't listen to evidence, it listens to a book that is supposedly the word of your Christian God, and nothing else, and that seems pretty ass-backwards. If scientific advancement and discovery stopped at "Everything revolves around the earth lol" then you wouldn't be sitting on your computer using the internet to debate with people you've never met who live on the other side of the world from you. |
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 SCfan
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
1664 Posts
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Saturday, September 25, 2010 5:59:51 PM
Why would any conservative go on Bill Maher. His format is always the same, invite a republican and get four or five liberals to antagonize them. |
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skaterboy17
Male, 18-29, Canada
299 Posts
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Saturday, September 25, 2010 5:55:30 PM
CrakrJak, the whole point behind science is a search for answers, and that search will never really be over. If, be experiments and testing and the likes, a particular scientific theory is proven to be flawed, and a better one takes it's place, that's perfect. That's the hole point behind science. It doesn't just stop at some point and say, "Well, I think we've done enough." Thousands of years ago, nobody knew that the Earth rotated around the sun. The Earth was thought to be the center of the universe, of everything. By experiments and testing, it was determined that that wasn't the case. So the theory changed. It developed, and became more correct. If there is enough evidence to support a particular theory, then the idea is that that theory is accepted by most people and until evidence comes along that disproves that theory, then it is believed to be correct. From the evidence that has been collected thus far, the theory of evolution is considered to be correct. If further |
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 CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
14374 Posts
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Saturday, September 25, 2010 5:36:26 PM
madest: I don't get how anyone could 'Morph Science', Unless you are claiming science is somehow flawed. But if you claimed science is flawed then that puts doubt on evolution doesn't it ?
You can't have it both ways, Either science is pure and you have to accept that it's results are the truth no matter the result or it's flawed and that's allows doubt into all science.
Tossing out some science, While keeping other science is as hypocritical as you claim religion is. |
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 mrpuddle
Male, 18-29, Western US
386 Posts
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Saturday, September 25, 2010 5:22:41 PM
yarrrpirate So your saying all science cannot be proved? It's all just hypothesis and theories? Things start off as those until proven. |
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mrpuddle
Male, 18-29, Western US
386 Posts
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Saturday, September 25, 2010 5:17:15 PM
Hammersley19
I never said it was fact...it is a faith and belief I choose to believe in. You can believe in what you like but don't pass it off as fact. Never put words in my mouth. |
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 tuxman4
Male, 13-17, Southern US
371 Posts
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Saturday, September 25, 2010 5:12:15 PM
So what show had Dee Snider on it talking about evolution? |
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 eskimo9
Male, 18-29, Australia
710 Posts
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Saturday, September 25, 2010 5:09:59 PM
A scientific theory is an argument which is generally accepted by a large body of scientists (tick) which has not to this point been disproved (tick) and has strong supporting evidence (tick). So it is not absolute fact, but until disproven, generally accepted truth. |
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eskimo9
Male, 18-29, Australia
710 Posts
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Saturday, September 25, 2010 5:07:14 PM
There's not even any concrete religious basis for not believing in evolution, at least not that I have seen growing up in a Christian school. The literal interpretation of the bible which results in creationism is fundamentally flawed. I could go on, but there's been more than enough of that on iab lately. |
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 MisterG
Male, 18-29, Europe
586 Posts
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Saturday, September 25, 2010 4:57:50 PM
You are the myth Christine. |
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 Hammersley19
Male, 18-29, Europe
12 Posts
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Saturday, September 25, 2010 4:57:06 PM
No mrpuddle is right! His logic is flawless.
Because evolution is a theory it must be a random guess, which is wrong.
Because religion is not a theory it must be an undeniable fact. |
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bintish
Male, 18-29, Europe
64 Posts
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Saturday, September 25, 2010 4:53:47 PM
*wonders if mrpuddle will respond...
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 yarrrpirate
Male, 18-29, Europe
397 Posts
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Saturday, September 25, 2010 4:51:11 PM
"yarrrpirate look it up kid.
dictionary.reference.com
a particular conception or view of something to be done or of the method of doing it; a system of rules or principles.
contemplation or speculation.
guess or conjecture."
I guess you jumped to the third choice right away, "kid" (thank you for the extraordinarily weak attempt at condescension).
Might I inform you that all of science is built on theory, and that you cannot fully prove anything without an underlying assumption or principle (which is found by observation)? In the same basket, you find gravity along with Newton's laws of motion, the laws of Thermodynamics, and so on.
Your stupidity would amuse me, if I knew you and those who "think" like you weren't a scourge upon our species. |
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bintish
Male, 18-29, Europe
64 Posts
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Saturday, September 25, 2010 4:50:48 PM
A Scientific theory is a proven hypothesis.
A Hypothesis is a scientific term for a thought on what a scientist/person believes should happen.
Therefore, a "theory" such as the theory of evolution, by the simple use of the corect english in this case, is by the very definition of the term "scientific theory" proven beyond reasonable boubt. |
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mrpuddle
Male, 18-29, Western US
386 Posts
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Saturday, September 25, 2010 4:46:55 PM
But I do love how your trying to change what a word means to fit your needs. |
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bintish
Male, 18-29, Europe
64 Posts
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Saturday, September 25, 2010 4:46:45 PM
"monkeys dont evolve into humans. hell, apes dont evolve into humans. we just share a common ancestor with other apes. the ancestor we evolved froThe most intelligent thing that has been written here. Thanks Cobrakiller |
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mrpuddle
Male, 18-29, Western US
386 Posts
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Saturday, September 25, 2010 4:45:39 PM
yarrrpirate look it up kid.
dictionary.reference.com
a particular conception or view of something to be done or of the method of doing it; a system of rules or principles.
contemplation or speculation.
guess or conjecture. |
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HayashiKaiji
Male, 18-29, Europe
9 Posts
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Saturday, September 25, 2010 4:43:24 PM
It's not much of a theory anymore since evolution has been observed and confirmed many times over.
As well as each day, new fossils and new species are discovered which contributes to the evolution.
You could say it's a confirmed theory. |
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 catbarf
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
1314 Posts
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Saturday, September 25, 2010 4:41:51 PM
"People it's called the theory of evolution KEY WORD THEORY...THEORY = EDUCATED GUESS not fact."
Along with nuclear theory, germ theory, heliocentrism, and gravity.
In short, the evidence for evolution is about on par with the evidence for nuclear reactions.
The people who say it's 'only a theory' have no idea what they're talking about. |
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yarrrpirate
Male, 18-29, Europe
397 Posts
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Saturday, September 25, 2010 4:35:05 PM
"People it's called the theory of evolution KEY WORD THEORY...THEORY = EDUCATED GUESS not fact."
In a scientific context, that is not what it means. Go back to the drawing board before presenting your thoughts, please. |
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mrpuddle
Male, 18-29, Western US
386 Posts
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Saturday, September 25, 2010 4:29:17 PM
People it's called the theory of evolution KEY WORD THEORY...THEORY = EDUCATED GUESS not fact. |
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Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
9546 Posts
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Saturday, September 25, 2010 4:09:24 PM
I have a question for the evolution deniers:
Why is your god such a nasty bastard? It's beyond malicious to fake so much evidence and fake more evidence every day and force so many people to hallucinate (evolution can be observed, so you must believe it's all a halluciniation) and to mess with people's heads like that just for the purpose of punishing them for believing the utterly convincing evidence and hallucinations. |
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