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Christine O'Donnell Thinks Evolution is a Myth

Hits: 20315 | Rating: (2.7) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: madest
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green_batman
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 730 Posts
Saturday, September 25, 2010 11:51:25 PM
CrackrJak: I think that Bronze Age man would be able to express that the earth rotates around the sun if God passed down that knowledge. And, if you take the Bible literally, God apparently passed down the idea that the sun revolves around the earth. And are you seriously telling me that Bronze Age man has no way to differentiate mountains from edges? And what would the pillars that the earth sits on be? Considering that the earth travels through space in an orbit determined by gravity, I don't think there is any possible way it could be compared to sitting on pillars. Oh, and I forgot to mention a quote that states that the earth stands still: "He has fixed the earth firm, immovable.” The earth is clearly not immovable, yet God apparently told man that it is. Your handwaving really makes no sense.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16676 Posts
Saturday, September 25, 2010 10:59:29 PM
green_batman: Edges eh ? Ever see mountain cliffs ? They certainly look like 'edges' to me.

As for the rest, Your talking of bronze age men trying to explain the visions God gave them. They explained it in the only words and terms they had at the time. When Indians first seen locomotives they called them 'iron horses', Because they didn't have words to explain them any other way. Does that mean the Indians actually seen horses made of metal ? No.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16676 Posts
Saturday, September 25, 2010 10:48:51 PM
Volsunga: You need to read up on the latest 'String theory' science. 11 dimensions, Only 4 of which we can perceive. Each have physics so wild even scientists have a hard time wrapping their minds around it. They are way more than axes, Do some research on it.

I have no cognitive separation. My belief is not dependent on science alone because science cannot even begin to explain everything, And never will.

Faith is the substance of things hoped for, The evidence of things not seen.

tridirk
Male, 50-59, Western US
 312 Posts
Saturday, September 25, 2010 10:46:49 PM
That we all evolved from monkeys or jack asses, this place is living proof! Just read our replies.

green_batman
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 730 Posts
Saturday, September 25, 2010 10:36:20 PM
Also, scientific truth is anything having to do with physical reality. Pretty much every aspect of reality has some form of science tied to it. Further, the only things that we can experience are things that are tied in with physical reality. How do you know that your "spiritual truths" are true, when you have no frame of reference for sorting out false spiritual claims? How do you know that you're not supposed to be Hindu if you want to have a good afterlife? How do you know that there's an afterlife at all?

There is little to nothing that we can be absolutely positive in knowing. Even a sane, educated adult can still perceive things the wrong way and draw flawed conclusions. Science minimizes this error by pulling together the experiences of many more individuals and by repeating experiments in order to determine that things follow consistent laws. What little uncertainty is present in science, is present simply due to the flaws in human perception, not in science.

green_batman
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 730 Posts
Saturday, September 25, 2010 10:35:18 PM
CrackrJak: Actually:

"that it might take the earth by the edges and shake the wicked out of it?"

This seems to state that the earth is flat, as it has edges.

"For the pillars of the earth are the Lord’s, and on them he has set the world."

This states that the earth sits on top of pillars, which it does not.

"Joshua spoke to the LORD; and he said in the sight of Israel, "Sun, stand still at Gibeon, and Moon, in the valley of Aijalon.""

This shows a geocentric view, in which the sun and moon rotate around the earth.

"And God said, "Let there be lights in the dome of the sky to separate the day from the night"

This seems rather similar to the Greek interpretation of the cosmos, in which the earth is surrounded by celestial spheres. Surprise, surprise, the Bible was written in a time when this was the dominant view of cosmology.

Volsunga
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 1548 Posts
Saturday, September 25, 2010 10:27:49 PM
@rakoonhat
I find it hard to believe your education was so poor that you never had a basic biology course.

NotTHATbored
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 1103 Posts
Saturday, September 25, 2010 10:26:49 PM
@rakoonhat well the truth is I don't want both taught in the class room. If I ever have kids I want the school to teach just evolution and leave the spiritual stuff out of it, that's for me to decide.

Volsunga
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 1548 Posts
Saturday, September 25, 2010 10:25:02 PM
@CrakrJak
No, there is only truth, defined as what actually is. Dividing it into two categories is a really poor way to alleviate your cognitive dissonance. You do not have even the slightest conception of the term "dimension". You appear to have bought into the New Age Hippie nonsense that defines "dimension" as being a sort of alternate reality. When scientists talk about dimensions, they mean nothing but axes upon which to measure data. A completely separate concept.

Belief is not a function of the will, it is a function of your reason and intellect. Pretending otherwise is doing nothing but lying to yourself and others.

rakoonhat
Female, 30-39, Southern US
 656 Posts
Saturday, September 25, 2010 10:22:55 PM
niether is taught in the classroom..and you will never get one or the other like that. the only time i ever heard evolution was in a an antro class while in undergrad. i never heard anything that couldnt actualy co-exist, but that could have been the way he taught it. my general belief was that people thought they evolved from monkeys, which isnt what evolution or charles darwin said. they are both two intresting sides of the tale. no harm in belieing in one or the other, or both.

Volsunga
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 1548 Posts
Saturday, September 25, 2010 10:13:50 PM
oh, looking for this?
I'll just leave this here for you.

NotTHATbored
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 1103 Posts
Saturday, September 25, 2010 10:13:01 PM
@OldOllie it makes a hudge difference. I wouldn't want someone in office who might advocate creation theory or "intelligent design" being taught at schools to children.

Also, isn't she the one who made the anti-masturbation commercial when she was younger? To me her belief in creation theory and anti-masturbation propoganda suggest that she is potential oppressor of civil liberties.

I really don't see her defending Roe vs Wade or supporting same sex marriage, so yes her religious beliefs would effect my decision to whether to vote for her or her.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16676 Posts
Saturday, September 25, 2010 10:09:51 PM
skaterboy17: Also, What college degree do you have ? I spent over 4 years getting mine and was on the deans and presidents lists each semester of my last two years.

I'm not saying that to brag, I know there are many different types of 'Intelligence', So I'm not going to act like an elitist snob. Just demonstrating that I'm well educated and knowledgeable. And what I don't know, I have the intelligence to do research about.

Volsunga
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 1548 Posts
Saturday, September 25, 2010 10:08:03 PM
@OldOllie
Actually, they can pass policy to support Creationism. They can require that Creation/Intelligent Design/"The Controversy" (All the exact same thing) be taught alongside Evolution in the classroom, which they did in a few states a while ago. Science is science and creationism, no matter what they want to call it these days is the lack thereof.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16676 Posts
Saturday, September 25, 2010 9:58:45 PM
skaterboy17: There is spiritual truth and scientific truth, The bible never says that the earth is the center of the universe, It also doesn't say that heaven is located in the sky or clouds or that hell is located in the mantle of the earth. Those were all assumptions made by early theologians. But now we know there are many dimensions, That we can not perceive. Heaven or Hell could be just a dimension or two away and we wouldn't even know it. I could be wrong, But there is certainly room enough for them with that theory.

adlinbaby
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 404 Posts
Saturday, September 25, 2010 9:52:32 PM
tired of youtube with all these "claims"

rakoonhat
Female, 30-39, Southern US
 656 Posts
Saturday, September 25, 2010 8:54:01 PM
this is coming from the guy with a voldemort avatar..i love it

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 12850 Posts
Saturday, September 25, 2010 8:32:44 PM
The real question is, what difference does it make whether a senator believes in evolution or creation? It's not like it's coming up for a vote now, is it? Listen to her positions on issues that actually matter and then decide if you agree or not.

I'd much rather have a senator who believes in Biblical creation than one who believes in Keynesian economics. While both of those ideas have been pretty well discredited, one is mostly harmless, while the other is completely destroying our county.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 10995 Posts
Saturday, September 25, 2010 8:18:58 PM
yarrrpirate So your saying all science cannot be proved? It's all just hypothesis and theories? Things start off as those until proven.


Damn, you are ignorant.

The only thing that is *proven* is the correctness of a mathematical equation and even then its application to anything real is not proven.

Hypotheses do not get upgraded to theories.

Theories do not get proven.

Outside of science, the level of evidence required for a theory to last would be more than enough to be considered proof.

Inside of science, there is no higher level of explanation than theory. If a million people test a theory a million different ways and it passes every test every time, it is still a theory.

Do you agree that bacteria and viruses can cause some diseases? That's the germ theory of disease.

You trust your life to scientific theories every day without a thought.

You have no clue.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 10995 Posts
Saturday, September 25, 2010 8:12:31 PM
People it's called the theory of evolution KEY WORD THEORY...THEORY = EDUCATED GUESS not fact.


I said before that people who deny evolution don't know what evolution is. Some, like mrpuddle here, take their deliberate ignorance a stage further and refuse to have any idea what any aspect of science is.

I say it's deliberate because if you can get past 18 and have absolutely no idea what a theory is, you must be that ignorant deliberately.

Ruswut
Male, 18-29, Europe
 1286 Posts
Saturday, September 25, 2010 7:58:22 PM
I think that Santa and his elves made every creature on earth and every now and then they throw a new one out which explains why we keep finding them.... what...?

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33873 Posts
Saturday, September 25, 2010 7:55:37 PM
Who needs science when you can belive in Magic instead!

handys003
Male, 50-59, Western US
 2402 Posts
Saturday, September 25, 2010 7:16:05 PM
Doh! (face palm)

Wizard77
Male, 40-49, Western US
 582 Posts
Saturday, September 25, 2010 6:49:45 PM
This was posted just to make you all squirm. And you all did. LOLOL

God I love this site.

skaterboy17
Male, 18-29, Canada
 299 Posts
Saturday, September 25, 2010 6:38:48 PM
Also, Duffytoler, don't worry.

I'm not going to think you're in the same uneducated boat as CrakrJak.

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