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Christine O'Donnell Thinks Evolution is a Myth

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CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16856 Posts
Sunday, September 26, 2010 6:53:03 AM
gorgack2000: You're misreading me, I was refuting the belief that 'Science can answer any question'.

And many scientists disagree on the theory of Abiogenesis, and actually believe Panspermia is more reasonable, But it's not likely that either will ever be proven.

gorgack2000
Male, 13-17, Europe
 4702 Posts
Sunday, September 26, 2010 5:54:23 AM
@CrakrJak- Your entire logic seems to be based on the fact that because science can't answer logically-impossible questions, it must be wrong.

Come on, "The limit of human knowledge"? Do you expect someone to turn round and say "Oh certainly, it's <number>"?! Half of those aren't questions so much as subjective thought experiments, and the ones that aren't have already been covered in various science books and websites (For instance, here's how life began in the universe).

ruthless1990
Female, 18-29, Europe
 3016 Posts
Sunday, September 26, 2010 5:52:08 AM
while evolution has been proved within species, it hasn't been proved without species, it is a theory. a well believed and very well backed up theory but people are allowed their own opinions, just saying.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16856 Posts
Sunday, September 26, 2010 4:20:18 AM
yarrrpirate: If you seen something literally pop out of thin air then disappear without a trace, Would you call that 'supernatural' ?

I think most people would call something like that 'supernatural' and some well respected scientific minded people have had experiences that science cannot explain.


CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16856 Posts
Sunday, September 26, 2010 4:10:16 AM
yarrrpirate: I'm not asking for 'subjective' answers, I have my own.

I'm stating that objective science cannot answer them.

Subjectivity refers to the subject and their perspective, feelings, beliefs, and desires. That is the opposite of objectivity, Which is the realm of science.

yarrrpirate
Male, 18-29, Europe
 397 Posts
Sunday, September 26, 2010 3:59:51 AM
They still obey laws that might have some differences from ours, but there's still no such thing as "supernatural".

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16856 Posts
Sunday, September 26, 2010 3:59:23 AM
Microchemist: Seeing as how you have a total 5 comments on IAB and not even one submission, Don't you think it's a bit audacious for you to tell me 'GTFO' ?

Yes, I've heard about the 'evolution' of bacteria, But they still do not have a process of adding any new information into their genome. They still remain bacteria, They don't change into a higher life form do they ? Just because there is proof of adaptation, It does not prove evolution.

Otherwise we'd be bowing down to our new overlord bacteria masters within a thousand years, If such rapid addition of new genetic information was occurring as fast as you quoted.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16856 Posts
Sunday, September 26, 2010 3:46:29 AM
yarrrpirate: I don't define them 'like Hollywood', They've been defined by scientists themselves.

The 11th dimesnion and parallel universes

yarrrpirate
Male, 18-29, Europe
 397 Posts
Sunday, September 26, 2010 3:28:27 AM
Crakrjak, you are the one asking those questions. If I give you subjective answers, why would you believe the bible rather than believe me?

Science has answers for many of those questions. You're the one not accepting them.

Microchemist
Male, 18-29, Western US
 15 Posts
Sunday, September 26, 2010 3:24:13 AM
CrakrJak: Your comments are rarely constructive. Please GTFO. Also, whoever said that the evolutionary processes of biology wasn't set in place by an all knowing creator? If I was to create life, I would give it the ability to adapt to a changing environment. And btw, to those who argue it's a myth... it is observable. Some bacteria have generation times in the minutes and evolution (defined as a change in allelic frequency in a population over time) can be observed in a matter of a week. This is a basic and common experiment in microbiology. Please, take the time to educate yourself before you decide what you believe.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16856 Posts
Sunday, September 26, 2010 3:03:17 AM
More questions science can't answer.

What is the origin of life in the Universe?
What is consciousness, where does it come from?
What happens to human consciousness after death?
Is there an objective purpose to human life ?
What is the limit to human knowledge? Is there an intrinsic limit ?
What is the potential for human consciousness? What is love?
What will happen in the future, specifically?

yarrrpirate
Male, 18-29, Europe
 397 Posts
Sunday, September 26, 2010 2:54:06 AM
Crakrjak, mathematics cannot fail. Mathematical axioms hold for n dimensions. As mentioned, the extra dimensions are a tool to be able to describe string theory, and you shouldn't just interpet it with the Hollywood definition of "diemnsion".

And as someone else said, the term "supernatural" is moot. Everything that exists can be described by science. If not now, then eventually, because science, unlike religion, is ever changing and adapting. Theories are discarded and replaced if a better one is found.

Finally, your question "Why are we here?" is asked by you yourself, and is not a universal truth. You can't make up a question and expect there to be an answer every time.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16856 Posts
Sunday, September 26, 2010 2:46:01 AM
yarrrpirate: I don't 'implement it into science and mathematics', I was demonstrating that there is room for things to exist beyond our senses, And those things might be considered 'supernatural'.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16856 Posts
Sunday, September 26, 2010 2:39:59 AM
Volsunga: Those other dimensions have to be more than just 'virtual' or else it's more than just the math that fails, The whole theory of general relativity fails (and others as well). Just because you can't 'understand on the macro level' those dimensions, Doesn't make them any less 'Real'. And if you believe that science solely depends on 'Empirical observation' and 'Natural order' You are dismissing a ton of astrophysics and quantum physics.

'The modern scientific method' is limited in it's capacity to answer the deeper questions of life like, Why are we here? & What is life all about?

yarrrpirate
Male, 18-29, Europe
 397 Posts
Sunday, September 26, 2010 2:36:24 AM
"The Bible's main message is to show us the plan, purpose, and glory of our Creator, and not science or mathematics."

Then why do you implement it into science and mathematics?

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16856 Posts
Sunday, September 26, 2010 2:20:15 AM
green_batman: Apparently you have problems distinguishing between literal speech and figurative speech. The Psalms are poetry not science.

The Bible's main message is to show us the plan, purpose, and glory of our Creator, and not science or mathematics.

yarrrpirate
Male, 18-29, Europe
 397 Posts
Sunday, September 26, 2010 1:05:35 AM
Crakrjak: "skaterboy17: Also, What college degree do you have ? I spent over 4 years getting mine and was on the deans and presidents lists each semester of my last two years.

I'm not saying that to brag, I know there are many different types of 'Intelligence', So I'm not going to act like an elitist snob. Just demonstrating that I'm well educated and knowledgeable. And what I don't know, I have the intelligence to do research about."


Apparently not. The appeal to authority is a logical fallacy, please do not use it.

By that same logic, someone who has gotten a PhD in Christianity from one of those ultra-christian "universities" is right, too.

yarrrpirate
Male, 18-29, Europe
 397 Posts
Sunday, September 26, 2010 1:03:05 AM
"skaterboy17: There is scientific truth"


No.

cobrakiller
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 6934 Posts
Sunday, September 26, 2010 12:53:52 AM
oh, now i am in fact, going to bed.

cobrakiller
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 6934 Posts
Sunday, September 26, 2010 12:53:31 AM
britt566, thank you for your consideration and moving your comment. you are awesome for that.

britt566
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 2315 Posts
Sunday, September 26, 2010 12:48:34 AM
(didn't mean to break into anyones 2 cents.)

i've been reading all of your arguments thoroughly (not really) and i honestly have to agree with Seth on this one.


cobrakiller
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 6934 Posts
Sunday, September 26, 2010 12:46:10 AM
therefore whatever helps you survive stays with your offspring. that is evolution in a nutshell. that is why we have such huge cerebrums that allow us to think so and realize why we are the way we are. okay IAB, i hope you learned something, have a nice night, im going to bed.

cobrakiller
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 6934 Posts
Sunday, September 26, 2010 12:44:20 AM
2)macro evolution: this is the evolution from species to species. this is the reason we exist as humans. there are so many fossils that have had their dna tested side by side and fit so well with cladistics (if you dont know, look it up) that its just so hard to argue with the logic. in fact, as of now, its impossible to argue with the logic. as soon as anyone can disprove this portion of evolution the rest of us will shut our mouths, but i wouldnt hold your breath on that one.

3) the third level is the creation of life. whether it be a happy accident or due to some devine intervention will never be known to living humans. i for one am hopeful of some devine intervention. but that would not disprove the first two arguments.

now, either way the third one goes, evolution as far as we know it has no teology. this means it does not move toward a goal. its just (as darwin stated), whatever works helps you survive. continued next post.

cobrakiller
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 6934 Posts
Sunday, September 26, 2010 12:36:55 AM
im sorry, im actually in the mood to piss some people off. if you dont "believe" in evolution, you are in fact an idiot. ( i say believe because it is something some people still choose to deny). there is way too much evidence to support evolution to dismiss it as "just a theory", when a theory is as close to a law as you can get in science now.

science works because everything in it is a testable hypothesis. if it cannot be tested, it is not a scientific theory, and evolution has been tested continuously and is still been proven true.

there are three levels at which people deny evolution:
1)microevolution: most people agree with this one. this is evolution within a species. this is the reason why every year you need a new flu vaccine because the influenza virus has EVOLVED. this is because the few viruses that survived the vaccine were able to reproduce and continue their genome onto the next generation of vaccine immune viruses. conti

Volsunga
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 1548 Posts
Sunday, September 26, 2010 12:22:39 AM
@CrakrJak
I am quite familiar with string theory. What you forget to mention is that the dimensions beyond height, width, depth, and duration are considered virtual. That is, they aren't "real" in a way we can understand on the macro level, but we need them for the equations to work. No, the physics of higher dimensions are fairly simple, you can learn them in any higher level calculus class.
The modern scientific method can explain literally anything you want it to, so long as you're willing to go through the steps. Everything that exists must, by the definition of "exist", be found in the natural order and therefore is susceptible to empirical observation. "Supernatural" is a word devoid of meaning. You can't evoke its use without eviscerating the word "exist".
On the matter of "faith", hoping for things doesn't make them any more or less real.

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