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lukas1051 Male, 18-29, Europe
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Friday, September 24, 2010 1:09:33 PM Are people seriously arguing about looks and personality because of this picture? Look, both are important. Which matters more to you and to what extent depends on who you are. Looks aren't everything, but conversely there is no point pretending they don't matter, because they matter to everyone, no matter how much you think otherwise. All this is beyond the point anyway, because this isn't real life. It's a picture on the internet, it means nothing if a guy looks at it. Hell, I've had girlfriends, my friends have had girlfriends, it doesn't mean we won't go "phwooaaar" at a hot girl on TV, because it's completely different to real life. So stop pretending your not shallow, and there's something wrong with being shallow, because everyone is to some degree no matter how much you deny it. It's human nature. |
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pui Female, 18-29, Canada
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Friday, September 24, 2010 1:04:41 PM I think looks are important to an extent. I have to be physically attracted to a person to love them. That said, My boyfriend is what most people would call slightly overweight and he's not conventionally "attractive" to most people. I find him very attractive both physically and personality wise and I love him very very much. |
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PsychGeek Female, 18-29, Southern US
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Friday, September 24, 2010 1:00:59 PM @ pizzaroll: LOL this is really entertaining me! your comment about "crazy women" had NOTHING to do with the argument, and had NO purpose other than to deflect attention away from the topic at hand. |
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PsychGeek Female, 18-29, Southern US
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Friday, September 24, 2010 1:00:02 PM @ pizzaroll: now you're just sounding like a bumbling moron. i don't know of many people here who would agree with you on your last point. i'd much rather spend my time with my loved ones that working out 4-5 hours a day every day, losing precious time with them. i do work out and try to stay healthy, but there's something called BALANCE. |
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pizzaroll Male, 18-29, Eastern US
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Friday, September 24, 2010 12:58:58 PM Psychgeek, that's not an attempt to change the subject, you f*cking moron. It's an attempt to show you that both sides of this argument have flaws. |
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PsychGeek Female, 18-29, Southern US
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Friday, September 24, 2010 12:58:44 PM @ taylor_stone: my boyfriend and i met the same way, and we feel the same way about each other. neither of us are exactly fit, but we try and work at it, and we're very happy with who the other is. i wouldn't trade him for any rippling, muscular jock even if i could. i love him for WHO HE IS, not his six-pack :D |
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pizzaroll Male, 18-29, Eastern US
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Friday, September 24, 2010 12:57:28 PM @taylor stone, really? You're going to use that feeble, I have more time than you argument? You do realize that physical health is directly related to lifespan right? So, by the math I've done, at 2 hours a day, for 40 years, I'll spend approximately 3.33 years exercising. Meanwhile, because of my health, and barring any unfortunate occurrences, I'll gain at least double that on my lifespan. (Or rather, I won't lose those years of my life that an unfit person would.) So yea, enjoy your extra time with your loved ones.... |
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PsychGeek Female, 18-29, Southern US
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Friday, September 24, 2010 12:56:55 PM @ pizzaroll: way to try and change the subject when you realize you aren't exactly building a lot of support :D the Andrea Yates' of the world have nothing to do with this conversation. nice try, though. |
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taylor_stone Male, 30-39, Eastern US
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Friday, September 24, 2010 12:49:29 PM I'd rather have a girl who is happy with who she is and knows how to have fun than a girl who is so centered on her looks and on her weight... The more attention you pay to yourself and YOUR needs, the less time you have to pay attention to the needs of those that matter to you. @pizzaroll In the 2 hours you spend biking, I'm spending 2 hours with my girlfriend walking around a park and talking and falling further and further in love with every moment. We dont need to spend unneeded time staying fit for each other to make each other happy. She loves me for who I am, and I love her for who she is. And it wasnt her looks that caught me. I got to know her personality before I even focused on her looks. (We were online friends before we dated) Looks are the LOWEST on my list of priorities. A great personality MAKES a girl beautiful to someone not too shallow to see it. |
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henryhendrix Male, 30-39, Eastern US
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Friday, September 24, 2010 12:49:26 PM Yeah, I think pui has the right idea. I'm with her on this one. |
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pizzaroll Male, 18-29, Eastern US
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Friday, September 24, 2010 12:49:07 PM @psychgeek, I never said that physical appearance has anything to do with personality. Nor do I suggest that someone "kill herself" just to keep up with me. If what I do to keep fit isn't killing me, I don't see why you assume that a woman would. However, I find it kind of hard to care about someone who doesn't care about his/her self. That goes with all my friends as well. I don't think someone needs to work themselves out to be model thin, or hollywood thin (anorexic more like) but a little muscle mass, and a physical sign that someone cares about themself is necessary. Also, why in the hell are you criticizing my standards all of a sudden? All women are beautiful, eh? What about those women that go bat sh*t insane and drown their children in a bathtub? |
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Lukgeezy Male, 18-29, Western US
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Friday, September 24, 2010 12:44:32 PM sum loser has too much time on their hands! |
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PsychGeek Female, 18-29, Southern US
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Friday, September 24, 2010 12:42:01 PM @ pizzaroll: sooooooo if a girl doesn't kill herself to be fit just to keep up with you, she's not worth your time? you're helping to prove my point. |
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PsychGeek Female, 18-29, Southern US
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Friday, September 24, 2010 12:40:51 PM @ taylor_stone: I'm behind you 110%!!! at least i'm not the only one who realizes that the weight of a girl isn't always an indication of her character! i've known some thin girls who were absolute b*tches, and some overweight girls who were amazing and had really, really good hearts.
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pizzaroll Male, 18-29, Eastern US
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Friday, September 24, 2010 12:40:37 PM Wow, psychgeek, way to put words in my mouth. First of all, a guy with a fat chick doesn't mean that he lowered his standards. It just means that his preferences, and therefor his standards, are completely different than my own. Also, I didn't say that beauty was the only thing that counts. I also admire intelligence, and a strong will. But neither of those things mean a flying sh*t if I wake up every morning, roll over, and grimace because of what I see lying next to me. Just like Kralmir, I spend a lot of time staying fit. Not particularly because I care about how I look, but I do care about myself, and my health. I bike upwards of 2 hours a day on the days I work, and normally twice that long on my days off. I also eat right. I expect the same discipline and self consciousness from any woman who wants to be with me. |
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kralmir Male, 18-29, Europe
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Friday, September 24, 2010 12:39:24 PM @PsychGeek: perhaps, but here is a thought of mine: to put in very global there are 4 types of women ugly/fat and a bitch ugly/fat and a wonderful person good looking and a bitch good looking and a wonderful person i can only know the looks part before getting to know a woman, makes sense to go for looks and hope you find the right one. |
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pui Female, 18-29, Canada
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Friday, September 24, 2010 12:38:49 PM I thought people just like boobies lol. |
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taylor_stone Male, 30-39, Eastern US
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Friday, September 24, 2010 12:37:35 PM Pui, its the same reason people post religious and political stuff. It incites a response. It brings in the people who would both enjoy the post and those who would be offended and feel the need to defend it. The comments become place for heated debate or argument on various topics, which is why this site is so entertaining. And for the record, I agree with meepmaker. All women are beautiful. Its just a matter of finding someone who can SEE the beauty. @pizzaroll Just because YOU don't see the beauty that a heavier girl has doesn't mean there isnt someone out there who CAN. My girl isnt skinny, and I wouldnt want her to be if she didnt want it for herself. |
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IRockYeah Male, 30-39, Europe
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Friday, September 24, 2010 12:36:24 PM Wait.... theres a forum??? |
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McGovern1981 Male, 30-39, Eastern US
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Friday, September 24, 2010 12:36:02 PM I'm here for her if she needs cream. |
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kralmir Male, 18-29, Europe
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Friday, September 24, 2010 12:33:47 PM sorry about the 2nd post, darn refresh button:P |
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kralmir Male, 18-29, Europe
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Friday, September 24, 2010 12:33:18 PM I'm going to go with pizzaroll here, i work myself to near exhaustion almost every day to look good myself. why am i wrong to want similar high standards from women? |
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PsychGeek Female, 18-29, Southern US
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Friday, September 24, 2010 12:32:08 PM @ kralmir: the problem with your and pizzaroll's point of view is that by judging a person based on looks alone, you're skipping over a LOT of wonderful women who would treat you like kings and make you very happy. of course, it takes a mature person to realize that it's not all about the way someone looks. |
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PsychGeek Female, 18-29, Southern US
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Friday, September 24, 2010 12:30:57 PM @ pizzaroll: so, according to your logic, a man who finds an overweight woman attractive is "lowering his standards" of admiration? your point of view is very.....closed-minded and shallow. |
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kralmir Male, 18-29, Europe
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Friday, September 24, 2010 12:29:35 PM I'm going to go with pizzaroll here, i work myself to near exhaustion almost every day to look good myself. why am i wrong to want similar high standards from women? |
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