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2 Million Scots Feel They Need To Share This [Pic]

Hits: 37102 | Rating: (2.9) | Category: Misc. | Added by: fancylad
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Hat-Trick
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 128 Posts
Tuesday, September 21, 2010 6:49:41 PM
Thanks for the info McGoogan. We never learn stuff like that here in the States.

kummi90
Male, 18-29, Europe
 543 Posts
Sunday, September 19, 2010 2:50:53 PM
WIN

The_McGoogan
Male, 18-29, Europe
 1 Posts
Sunday, September 19, 2010 7:02:39 AM
I've noticed on here that a lot of people think Scottish people wear kilts all the time and toss logs. Scottish people only wear kilts at weddings and maybe a christening. If you walk down the street pretty much anywhere in Scotland wearing a kilt, you'll be considered a weirdo. As for the log tossing, that does happen, but only at events called the "Highland Games" which aren't just held in the Highlands, they're done all over the country. At these games, it's just a way of celebrating the country's culture and heritage, but that's the only time it's done.

pensky
Male, 50-59, Eastern US
 14 Posts
Sunday, September 19, 2010 12:10:13 AM
@I-IS=BORED It seems to me that the way our minds function is determined by their structure and while there may be some randomness in the phenotypical expression of our DNA, it's far more predictable than not. My point is that there is nothing moral about feeling shame for acts that hurt others or feeling good about nurturing or protecting those around us. These feelings are driven by the chemical systems programmed into our brain. The resulting behaviors that we feel driven toward will determine our success and survival in society. Historically human society has excluded (or destroyed) those who don't express proper signs of guilt and compassion. While it may be the norm for me to feel self approval when I exhibit empathy for others I ought to recognize that my feelings are adaptive behaviors and not ascribe them to some mystical universal value system. That is unless I just like self deception.

I-IS-BORED
Male, 18-29, Canada
 2432 Posts
Saturday, September 18, 2010 11:14:03 PM
@pensky

big hole in all your claims that our DNA determines everything, identical twins don't have to have identical sets of morals, ethics, or personality

and don't repost things -_-

Lord_Jereth
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 693 Posts
Saturday, September 18, 2010 9:46:18 PM
5Cats, "@Lord_Jereth, gee, your posts usually make a lot of sense"

I'll take that as the left-handed compliment that I believe it was intended as and leave it at that. Other's have since continued my argument as admirably or better as I would have. I'm sure with the added coffee as the day progressed my statement began to make more sense for you.

Enjoy the rest of your weekend,

LJ

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26320 Posts
Saturday, September 18, 2010 3:23:07 PM
you can't say 'your religion doesn't fit my definition therefore you aren't religious'

True @I-IS-BORED but I tried very hard to not say that! lolz! I agree the Nazis professed to Christianity, so that makes them different than Stalin & Mao who enforced atheism as the state religion. I merely point out that most of the 'top nazis' had weird occult beliefs as well, making them more of a cult than 'mainstream Christianity' eh?
save a human's life over 10 cats' lives

SPECIESIST!! lolz! Also @almightybob1, leprosy is rare, but I don't consider it precious at all... lolz!
But it's true that without a 'creator' (whomever that may be) we're just chemical soup that accidentally evolved into humans. And cats :)

CapnAwesome
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 236 Posts
Saturday, September 18, 2010 3:12:45 PM
"pensky uses nihilism!

it's super-effective!"
i actually lol'd

liberalirony
Male, 18-29, Europe
 196 Posts
Saturday, September 18, 2010 2:15:18 PM
Isn't this just part of the protests against the pope visiting Britain? People are pissed that millions in tax money are being spent on the visit of someone who spends his time in a palace surrounded by gold and priceless art

Vindictive
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 1079 Posts
Saturday, September 18, 2010 12:56:55 PM
pensky uses nihilism!

it's super-effective!

pensky
Male, 50-59, Eastern US
 14 Posts
Saturday, September 18, 2010 12:05:52 PM
almightybob1 - While I appreciate your candor and thoughtfulness in responding I can't help be dissatisfied by statements like "anything that is rare is precious". It is self-referential (illogical). Preciousness is not a quality of a thing but an arbitrary subjective value. It's not based in rational thought. And when you say that "Every animal is biased towards its own species" that makes my point and more. Our bias is a behavior, based in DNA, based on the random forces that make evolution. And saying that self-awareness is "significant" (another arbitrary value) is not only self-referential but borders on the same sort of mysticism that the religionists are guilty of!

I-IS-BORED
Male, 18-29, Canada
 2432 Posts
Saturday, September 18, 2010 10:03:56 AM
@5cats

you can't say 'your religion doesn't fit my definition therefore you aren't religious' otherwise your next move would be to call muslims atheists

MissTokyo
Female, 18-29, Europe
 83 Posts
Saturday, September 18, 2010 10:01:47 AM
Well we do on occasion enjoy wearing kilts and throwing logs but it doesn't really define us as a people..... try throwing 'drunken' and 'violent' in there and your getting close ;)

jendrian
Male, 18-29, Canada
 2492 Posts
Saturday, September 18, 2010 9:29:50 AM
I was reading the comments and I saw a couple people complaining about me saying scotts are kilt wearing, log throwing people...

I thought I was making a compliment!, really kilts are nice and log throwing speaks for itself

almightybob1
Male, 18-29, Europe
 4278 Posts
Saturday, September 18, 2010 9:20:07 AM
... inherently tied to religion. They're just labels humans have applied, like every word is.

almightybob1
Male, 18-29, Europe
 4278 Posts
Saturday, September 18, 2010 9:19:11 AM
To a degree, yes, but there are plenty of issues that we aren't evolutionarily equipped to deal with. For example, is prostitution immoral? What about nuclear proliferation? We need to develop reasoned responses to these issues because they've cropped up as our civilisation has advanced, they're not part of evolutionary behaviour.

Is the survival of our species better than any other? Yes. Every animal is biased towards its own species. I would save a human's life over 10 cats' lives every time.
That doesn't mean we can survive without other species though.

Life is significant, because we are self-aware enough to ask the question. Besides, anything that is rare is precious, and so far this is the only planet we know of with biological life.

I call it good and evil because we need a name for it. I could call it "socially acceptable" or "socially unacceptable" if you prefer, but it doesn't matter. The words good and evil are not inherentl

pensky
Male, 50-59, Eastern US
 14 Posts
Saturday, September 18, 2010 8:19:24 AM
almightybob1 - you make my point for me. If morals are inherent to an evolved species it is because they are just abstractions of successful evolutionary behavior. What you call good are simply behaviors that increase the likeliness of your personal survival and ability to reproduce. Its all just the programming of your DNA and DNA is just chemicals. Is the survival of our species better than any other. Or is life itself any more significant than the sterile chemical reactions that take place on mars or venus. Whats the point of calling it good or evil. Religious people weren't given rules by a god (obviously) they made them up just like you do. Were is the important difference?

almightybob1
Male, 18-29, Europe
 4278 Posts
Saturday, September 18, 2010 7:58:34 AM
pensky - we can still have good and evil behaviour as atheists. We just define what is good and what is evil for ourselves (although in my opinion not entirely, since I believe some morals are inherent to an evolved social species), rather than a god defining it for us.

almightybob1
Male, 18-29, Europe
 4278 Posts
Saturday, September 18, 2010 7:56:51 AM
The evil stuff the Nazis did was done in the name of Nazism, not Christianity.


This Hitler quote has been cited several times already, but apparently it wasn't read, so once more for good luck:

"I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty Creator. By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord's work." - Adolf Hitler, 1936

pensky
Male, 50-59, Eastern US
 14 Posts
Saturday, September 18, 2010 7:51:35 AM
Believing in concepts like good and evil is just as silly and self defeating as believing in a god. I find it ironic that people define themselves as atheists and then go on to congratulate themselves for being "good". All life is just the result of complex chemical interactions, on a infinitesimal scale (given the size of the universe). Look out at the stars or at the atoms in your body. Which are good, evil, better than others? Our minds and our thoughts are only the result of morally indifferent chemical reactions. Stop the farce of "good" and "evil" if you wish to the rational thinkers you claim.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26320 Posts
Saturday, September 18, 2010 7:44:18 AM
@Lord_Jereth, gee, your posts usually make a lot of sense, perhaps I missed something (or need more coffee!)

Anyhow, Mao and Stalin both essentially made themselves to be "god" and demanded worship. I'd still count them as atheists.
Hitler & Co. made the Nazi Party the state's "religion" IMO, they were Christian by name only, more like pagans in practice (believing in mystical stuff NOT approved by Christian churches, eh?). The evil stuff the Nazis did was done in the name of Nazism, not Christianity.
@Crackr, that pic of Stalin doing a faceplant on a tire, priceless! lolz!

In general humanity IS moving away from religion, and has been for some time now. Wether this is a good thing or not remains to be seen, eh?

Lord_Jereth
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 693 Posts
Saturday, September 18, 2010 7:06:45 AM
Ahh, Crakr,

You're always good for a hoot. The argument of guilt by association is, I am sure, very comforting for you, until you realize that if such an argument had any true bearing, your side would be just as guilty.

After all, Hitler was a practicing Christian and was convinced with the power of faith that the eradication of the Jews and Gypsies was a holy enterprise. Much the same goes for the KKK.

Your argument is, as usual, simply that of deflection and misdirection - and therefore, as usual, flawed. Extremist views can be had on all sides. Your's is no better than any other. Interesting how that works, huh?

At least we skeptics, atheists, anti-theists, humanists, etc. don't do what we do and then blame it on some invisible sky-pixie or celestial bogyman. We usually grow out of blaming our actions on invisible friends somewhere around the age of 5 or so.

LJ

Vindictive
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 1079 Posts
Saturday, September 18, 2010 7:02:38 AM
"Someone who believes they will be rewarded for good behaviour will never do a good deed their whole life."

THIS. THIS FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS.

Wiggle1111
Male, 18-29, Europe
 78 Posts
Saturday, September 18, 2010 6:50:33 AM
I do good things because its morally right to do so.

Religious people do good things because they think they will be rewarded by the Super Santa in the sky.

Also, check the difference between Faith and Religion.

almightybob1
Male, 18-29, Europe
 4278 Posts
Saturday, September 18, 2010 6:49:49 AM
“Regimental” is slang for wearing one’s kilt without the benefit of underwear. The origin of the term appears to be “regimental style”, referring to Scottish Regiments in the United Kingdom army, who wear their kilts this way.

Huh. I've never heard it called that, and I live in Scotland. We usually call that "going True Scotsman".

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