 SKINNERNSC
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 358 Posts
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Monday, September 27, 2010 12:31:51 PM
awwwww......maybe some ducky and bunny wallpaper to boot.... |
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 obhwfgirl
Female, 18-29, Western US
553 Posts
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Friday, September 17, 2010 7:43:45 PM
Please.
They're not giving out passing grades for the students. They're doing to make their own failing asses look better. |
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 8BitHero
Male, 18-29, Europe
5420 Posts
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Friday, September 17, 2010 7:41:52 AM
Just don't fail then. |
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 Ranakamarth
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
295 Posts
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Thursday, September 16, 2010 6:55:48 PM
Our has be doing this F No! stuff for the past while, stands for Failure is not an option. Where we are allowed to retake any test we want as many times as we like, and if you fail it the first time it is mandatory to take it until you pass. Homework and class work counts 0% towards your final grade, all it does is add 5 points to your test if you get 90% homework done 4 points at 80 and so on. Our school is retarded |
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 DeutschDude9
Male, 18-29, Western US
475 Posts
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Wednesday, September 15, 2010 10:38:22 PM
By the way I, I'm fine with this school creating an environment at which their students feel they can just get by in life through minimal work and everything will work out fine. It's just more people I will destroy later in life. |
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DeutschDude9
Male, 18-29, Western US
475 Posts
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Wednesday, September 15, 2010 10:36:13 PM
how can C be average if there isn't anyone below it. |
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 Obliviously
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
28 Posts
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Wednesday, September 15, 2010 10:28:24 PM
So not only are they giving the students with the "I'm not gonna do any work" attitude a passing grade, but they're gonna hand out free laptops?! I went to the wrong high school... |
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 Salted_Eggs
Male, 18-29, Western US
773 Posts
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Wednesday, September 15, 2010 8:03:14 PM
Interesting idea... I'll let the results of this declare if it's a good idea... though seeing as how it's from Colorado...
Eh, they have a better shot at pulling it off than Florida.
Personally I'd like to see them make classrooms smaller, perhaps 10 to a room max, and see how that goes. But overpopulation probably kills that idea unless we divide up the school day and have half the school go in the morning and half in the evening.
Oh, and Yofuzzy's idea isn't so far fetched in terms of affordability. There are countries who have no public high schools and at an affordable rate to parents. That and there would be less taxes to pay the government since there would be no education tax.
Also, good point, madduck. You tend to hear of stricter policies but never any details about what happens when those policies are breached. |
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 premierwondr
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
979 Posts
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Wednesday, September 15, 2010 2:23:48 PM
I'm gonna guess that this school is in a pooty neighborhood plagued by poverty, drugs, etc.
Employing this 'No One Fails' in a well-to-do suburban community would be a fail but education in bad communities is much different.
To be honest, encouraging kids to stay in school in any way possible is great. Keep them off the street, away from drugs (selling/consuming), and at least try to prepare them for life after school.
I'm all for this plan. Education in poor neighborhoods needs to evolve and considering how bad the passing rates are, the administrators might as well 'play around' until they find a balance. |
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 BrimstoneOne
Male, 30-39, Canada
2232 Posts
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Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:57:06 PM
I applaud the move away from the confinement of the "traditional" model of education. But failure IS an option, and teach the consequences of decisions made. |
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 Turnshroud
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
6414 Posts
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Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:40:32 PM
Zen, didn't Indiana lay off like 3000, or more teachers? One of the reasons I needto get out ASAP
Yofuzzy- interesting solution. It would probably work. The only problem is affordability. So how can we find a middle ground? |
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 rncotton
Male, 30-39, Southern US
387 Posts
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Wednesday, September 15, 2010 9:49:34 AM
They've already started this here in Memphis. Currently in city schools, they can not fail anyone in grades K-3, with plans to extend that to 6th grade by 2014. I have no doubt they will extend that all the way to 12th grade.
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 madduck
Female, 40-49, Europe
2859 Posts
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Wednesday, September 15, 2010 9:17:21 AM
So, assume a child does receive low grades- what is the procedure? If a child persists in not working hard enough at anything- even classes for idiots- how do they address this? Are they expelled, kept in after school, sent to work in a field? |
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 APJ311
Male, 13-17, Europe
755 Posts
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Wednesday, September 15, 2010 9:09:38 AM
I seriously hate the way that kids aren't allowed to fail, or to be dim. Plenty of kids are now being diagnosed with things like dyslexia and I think that they probably are just slow learners. If their parents read with them then I reckon that many would be able to read just fine; I also think that many just don't try hard enough. In the real world though, if you don't try or don't have the ability to do your job, then you will not have a good career. Kids need to be able to fail and need to work hard, they shouldn't just be able to blame something like dyslexia or ADHD if they're struggling in school (in the cases where the kids do actually have dyslexia or something then they should learn things that they can do well, and try their best at the things with which they struggle - if they fail, then let them fail). |
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 DavidXJ
Male, 30-39, Western US
527 Posts
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Wednesday, September 15, 2010 8:05:21 AM
I thought the recession had done away with this "everyone is successful" crap. I can't wait until the first day one of these kids gets fired and is like, "what other options do I have to not get fired?" Um, maybe DO THE WORK YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO! |
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 meepmaker
Male, 30-39, Southern US
6716 Posts
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Wednesday, September 15, 2010 7:30:06 AM
Chicago. Always something going on. |
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 Narninian
Male, 18-29, Western US
127 Posts
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Wednesday, September 15, 2010 7:00:53 AM
I don't quite understand the article either. If I went to that school and simply didn't do any homework(fact), and did poorly on my tests(fiction) it would seem to me I would be failing. It would then be my responsibility to earn a good grade and I'll have a variety of options including a credit recovery program or instruction through the internet. If I simply choose not to participate I'd fail. How are they addressing that and still "doing away with failing grades"? |
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 pmarren
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
3385 Posts
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Wednesday, September 15, 2010 6:27:14 AM
"We have raised the expectations for students..."
O rly? |
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 ZenDragon
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
224 Posts
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Wednesday, September 15, 2010 5:47:23 AM
Just a note, East Chicago is in Indiana. However, Chicago Public Schools is one of the worst school systems around. It's unfortunate that teachers are judged on the poor performance of the students. Unfortunately, students get pushed through grade school. The system doesn't care if they succeed, they don't have room for them, so push! You have these middle school students who barely write better than 2nd graders, seriously. I can blame the schools for not having enough funding and resources and stupid policies, but parents are the ultimate blame for their childrens' lack of success and motivation... |
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 GRadde
Male, 18-29, Europe
2567 Posts
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Wednesday, September 15, 2010 5:35:10 AM
"Harding is also proud of the relationship the district has developed with Apple Computer Inc. [...] By the end of January, every student in grades seven to 12 will have a computer."
Whoa! o.o' Gief me! |
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 beternal
Male, 18-29, Europe
1848 Posts
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Tuesday, September 14, 2010 11:29:12 PM
I think 'extra credit' is a load of rubbish... if you do the work, you should pass, if you don't, you should fail. None of this doing something else stuff which probably won't be on the exam anyway and still being able to bump your grade up |
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 mvangild
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
528 Posts
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Tuesday, September 14, 2010 10:30:06 PM
The first paragraph is confusing. The first sentence says that students won't earn anything less than a C. Then the third sentence of the same paragraph states that it is possible to earn less than a C. So, let's assume for the moment that it is possible to earn less than a C, but that it would be a failing grade. My question would be what the grade range is of a C? When I was at school, that would have been 70-79%. When my parents went to school, that would have been around 76-84% (at least, that's what I think they said). So, is the score being lowered again in order to make their numbers look better? "Hey look, all of our students are getting C's! Just don't tell anyone that the lowest C grade is 50%. Shh." |
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 dax2009
Female, 50-59, Midwest US
322 Posts
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Tuesday, September 14, 2010 10:24:52 PM
Private education (not run by religious groups) flunked out in our city. When one did, they took EVERYTHING with them. There wasn't a book in the library when it went back to being public. They had to BORROW books from other schools. I found this out when the company I was with wanted to donate some children's books they had. After two years of this, I was told by one of the teachers who came for the stuff we were giving them every two weeks or so that 2/3 of the books they had in their library was donated by us. And that the kids would rush to the library on the day the new ones were put on the shelves. Most of what I learned in school I learned because I was a voracious reader. Started with comic books and went up from there....... reading saved my life. Got a good job because I tested so well on their tests. Again, mostly reading skills. My heart goes out to those who never have learned to read. |
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 mmmmalexande
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
30 Posts
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Tuesday, September 14, 2010 9:09:33 PM
they aren't saying d's and f's won't exist they're saying that the kids will not be allowed to get d's or f's. they will have to do the work necessary to get a c or higher. |
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FatefullyPur
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
37 Posts
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Tuesday, September 14, 2010 8:32:16 PM
The good part of this is the fact that the new program gives students a chance to earn college credits but what happens when some of the students go on to get their bachelors degree. They won't be able to deal with getting d's and f's at a university and will most likely not finish. I think Chicago has good intentions with the program but it's not a well thought out plan. |
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