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The Empathic Civilization

Hits: 23352 | Rating: (3.4) | Category: Community & Lifestyle | Added by: davymid
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Tiger86
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 65 Posts
Friday, October 15, 2010 8:03:19 AM
Um, yeah, it's called being a mammal.

redspade
Male, 13-17, Canada
 150 Posts
Wednesday, September 15, 2010 9:56:56 PM
these vids never fail to blow my mind.

Tupinambis
Male, 18-29, Western US
 566 Posts
Monday, September 13, 2010 12:21:02 AM
@npdarren
Unlike yourself, no attempt at sounding intellectual was made or forced.
You probably spent more brain power thinking about how you'd denounce me on the insignificant grammatical error than thinking about what I actually said.

Tupinambis
Male, 18-29, Western US
 566 Posts
Monday, September 13, 2010 12:19:04 AM
This is evident in your 'examination' of the enemy concept.
First. This blueprint has been drawn up as it is precisely because we've been stuck within shouting distance for so long. The people of this globe aren't stuck anymore...so why are 'nations' acting like it? What you say might be true, without enemies evolution wouldn't have happened but our species hasn't evolved much since the start of that social blueprint. Socially, we (YOU & everyone with this mindset) are acting as if we are different species that can't coexist. The only enemy is a group of humans that can't deal with the fact that all cultural bullpoo aside, they are the same as everyone else.
Second and Last. "Lets" has an apostrophe between the Tee and the Ess, and you brought that one on yourself. Otherwise I DGAF.

DavioMagnifi
Male, 13-17, Midwest US
 601 Posts
Sunday, September 12, 2010 9:39:21 PM
agree with npdarren:
http://www.cracked.com/
article_14990_what-monkeysphere.html

RoboPatton
Male, 30-39, Western US
 2425 Posts
Sunday, September 12, 2010 5:29:09 PM
I really love these videos, keep them coming.

npdarren
Male, 18-29, Western US
 603 Posts
Sunday, September 12, 2010 5:20:11 PM
<continued>

...competition that drives evolution, and without an enemy there is no competition.

npdarren
Male, 18-29, Western US
 603 Posts
Sunday, September 12, 2010 5:19:35 PM
"makes crystal clear sense unless your tied down by your own false beliefs."

"Your just stuck in your frame of nationalistic thinking"

Sorry, just can't get over your misuse of the word "your". It kinda ruins the delivery and makes any attempt at sounding intellectual seem forced and superficial.

Also, you're not making the distinction between reality and an ideal. I agree that a society does not need an enemy or nation or religion to function, but the course of our evolution has created these such dependencies.

Lets examine the "enemy" concept. In our cultural infancy tens of thousands of years ago the blueprints for today's world were already being drawn. We fought each other for food and territory just as we fight each other today. If we did not fight and merely coexisted we would still be at that infantile stage where we only care for the livelihoods of the people within shouting distance because it is c

Tupinambis
Male, 18-29, Western US
 566 Posts
Sunday, September 12, 2010 2:21:11 PM
@SpartaKitty
Wouldn't you agree that you are the product of the Earth and so technically you are Earth? Just because you can walk around its surface and differentiate yourself from it in your head, doesn't mean your a separate entity from another point of view. Not caring for the planet would be not caring for yourself since you are a product of the planet.

Tupinambis
Male, 18-29, Western US
 566 Posts
Sunday, September 12, 2010 2:14:53 PM
Some of your reactions to this video are so flawed. Everything this guy's saying makes crystal clear sense unless your tied down by your own false beliefs.
To those saying we require a 'Nation' a 'Religion' an 'Enemy' .... No we don't. You've been brought up in a time where those words relate to ideas that have created the world we live in today. Your just stuck in your frame of nationalistic thinking that's a product of the 20th century,WWI, WWII etc.
I was surprised he didn't cover more on the relation between evolution and globalization. With evolution we see that large separations by time and space can cause large deviations of a previously identical group (different species). The same exact thing is applicable to the human culture constructs that breed nations, religions, and the things blocking us from seeing that somewhere along the line we were all one. As globalization progresses this will be an undeniable fact.

dynamites111
Male, 18-29, Canada
 76 Posts
Sunday, September 12, 2010 1:17:23 PM
I guess an alien invasion wouldn't be a bad thing then, as long as we win the war of course LOL

SomeShoes
Male, 13-17, Canada
 2068 Posts
Sunday, September 12, 2010 1:04:24 PM
ranon, exactly what I thought

Rawrandmer
Female, 13-17, Southern US
 283 Posts
Sunday, September 12, 2010 12:41:26 PM
Woooow....that was most certainly very interesting, I really liked how the pictures and words flowed with what he was saying.

ranon
Male, 18-29, Asia
 294 Posts
Sunday, September 12, 2010 9:28:55 AM
He asks as to why we cannot have empathy for the entire globe as an extension of the blood ties, religious ties and nation ties that are there currently.

The answer is that we as humans require the existence of the other, the enemy. So in the case of the blood ties it was the next tribe. In case of the religious ties it various religions fought many wars. Same as for nation states.

Now, if aliens are proven to exist, then I am sure that the entire planet will come together to fight them off and we will get the formation of planetary ties.

Puddingbrood
Male, 13-17, Europe
 72 Posts
Sunday, September 12, 2010 3:00:29 AM
@teph: That's because they only feel empathy for their country or religion as he explained. Would this develop to everyone feeling empathy for each other, then there would be no wars anymore.

Fatninja01
Male, 18-29, Australia
 24476 Posts
Saturday, September 11, 2010 11:10:35 PM
meh!

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 24004 Posts
Saturday, September 11, 2010 10:14:09 PM
We are moving towards "anti-babalon" whereby we will someday ALL speak the same language. The internet is the driving force (all social change must have some force behind it to overcome inertia and resistance, eh?). Then it will be a lot easier to feel empathy towards all humanity, I think :)


CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16693 Posts
Saturday, September 11, 2010 9:57:12 PM
After reading the Time piece on him, His idea that society should be the judge of what technology we employ is not bad. After all who the heck enjoys those damn multi-step phone menus, When all you want is a real person ? (Preferably one that can actually speak your language fluently).

Just because science can do certain things, Doesn't mean they should, Especially without the informed consent of society.

I have reservations about his other conclusions, But The above 'societal consent' is certainly a needed component if we are to keep our world from becoming a frankensteinish nightmare.

teph2112
Male, 13-17, Asia
 652 Posts
Saturday, September 11, 2010 9:15:13 PM
I think he has a point about empathy, but he totally missed the bit on how people will kill and fight each other for nations or religions.

SarahofBorg
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 3573 Posts
Saturday, September 11, 2010 8:28:07 PM
Let's face it though, in order to survive as a living thing you have to cause suffering to a lot of other living things. Just the burden you place on your parents is plenty, but there's also the lives you need to end just to eat. Being empathetic is not really a solution to everything.

bordo
Male, 50-59, Western US
 727 Posts
Saturday, September 11, 2010 8:27:30 PM
Smart guy, but like many, he twists things to fit his personal social and political agenda.

SarahofBorg
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 3573 Posts
Saturday, September 11, 2010 8:23:34 PM
Nothing I didn't already know here, having learned a bit about anthropology and psychology already. I think there's nothing new here anyway, I do think most people empathize with the entire world on some level. There is no person who doesn't wish that suffering was reduced in this world. Is there anyone who wishes all living things suffer? There are a lot of people who think that their special group is all that deserves happiness, but they still want what makes them special to apply to everyone. So maybe you believe only christians go to heaven, but then you also wish there were more non-christian people who become christian so more people can go to heaven, because you don't want to see people suffering. There are exceptions, but overall most people are globally empathetic.

SPARTAKITTY
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 2131 Posts
Saturday, September 11, 2010 7:59:57 PM
Meh, I like animals, and I do wish people got along better, but there is no fcuking way I'm going to be all hugsy wugsy and love the planet like I love people and animals. I recycle, I use a metal bottle instead of a plastic one, and that's all I'm doing.

benbobbins
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 11 Posts
Saturday, September 11, 2010 7:29:55 PM
Alright, enough of that. He lost me at "saving the planet."

SebastianLam
Male, 13-17, Western US
 734 Posts
Saturday, September 11, 2010 6:41:56 PM
Interesting. There are flaws as with all theories and whatnot but this is interesting.

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