 fishgul69
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 917 Posts
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Saturday, September 25, 2010 8:17:47 PM
I don't have problems with porn, I get my poo free. but incidentally, christianity condemns same sex unions, but none of them openly condemn rape and abuse within the marriage. go figir. |
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 BoredFrank
Male, 40-49, Southern US
1318 Posts
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Monday, September 13, 2010 8:23:49 AM
Why are some people so concerned with the choices other people make anyway?
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 spyrocheeks
Female, 13-17, Eastern US
113 Posts
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Saturday, September 11, 2010 3:28:09 PM
I seriously dont care. |
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skirvin
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
5 Posts
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Friday, September 10, 2010 9:37:16 PM
someone cant get laid... |
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 TokioKoos
Female, 18-29, Europe
415 Posts
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Friday, September 10, 2010 12:35:55 PM
I don't have a problem with pornography... >_> |
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 Spider_sol
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
1454 Posts
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Friday, September 10, 2010 9:29:55 AM
@1:12 she wants god to kneel down? |
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 Mr_Pedo_Bear
Male, 70 & Over, Southern US
338 Posts
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Friday, September 10, 2010 9:08:02 AM
Even the Nazi's were relatively ok with Lesbians.... Gay men no, women yes (they could still be used to breed) |
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 sbeelz
Male, 30-39, Western US
2860 Posts
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Friday, September 10, 2010 5:38:58 AM
They make cars that won't work when drunk people try to drive them, so why can't they make microphones that won't work for people who are batsh*t insane? |
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 marissameows
Female, 18-29, Western US
172 Posts
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Thursday, September 09, 2010 8:34:47 PM
jeez lady calm down...
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 Abandonnez
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
230 Posts
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Thursday, September 09, 2010 8:04:09 PM
This women in off her rocker, I find her opinion there for moot. |
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 Wizard77
Male, 40-49, Western US
582 Posts
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Thursday, September 09, 2010 4:28:17 PM
I said CJs conviction. Not just "hey all, anyone with strong beliefs is worthy of respect."
I have explained why that respect is valid. I didnt frame it in the exact terms you wanted but who cares what you want? It was still sort of snotty to say that about a guy like CJ. Your one liner wasnt thought provoking it was just sort of crumby and mean.
But you have worn me out with endless whining and subject changing tactics. Shot down on every point you made. Your right to never be offended, Gods right to run heaven, what group is violent (since you brought them up I would think you would have considered your belief carefully, with all the counter-points and from all the angles.) And still you scramble for any small bit of ground to stand on.
Make the last post and feel somehow you have won the day. I wont be back this deep into the threads to read it anyway. |
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 RecycleElf
Male, 18-29, Europe
3632 Posts
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Thursday, September 09, 2010 1:23:18 PM
i... i wish i could be there when she heldt that speech. i would break her jaw and explain to all the confused people listining to that bullcrap, that what they are doing and the feelings they have is completely natural and there's nothing wrong with what they are doing or how they feel. Arrrgh that woman makes me mad.
when i listen to ppl preaching, it's like everything is moving towards "the rapture" or what ever you call it. but it wont happend. the closest thing to a rapture humanity will ever possibly experience is nuclear war or astroids on colition course to earth. I laugh at these people. laugh with a worried frown because they contribute to drating the world up
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 almightybob1
Male, 18-29, Europe
4278 Posts
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Thursday, September 09, 2010 1:12:39 PM
So you aimed criticism at my thinking because I have respect for his conviction? Wow dude. Lame.
Because you say that strong conviction and belief are worthy of respect in and of themselves, regardless of what those beliefs might be (that's the "agree or disagree" part), yes.
Believing something is only respect-worthy if you can demonstrate that you have considered your belief carefully, with all the counter-points and from all the angles. If someone just believes something without ever thinking critically about it, I have no respect for that belief. |
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Wizard77
Male, 40-49, Western US
582 Posts
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Thursday, September 09, 2010 12:39:38 PM
So you aimed criticism at my thinking because I have respect for his conviction? Wow dude. Lame. |
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almightybob1
Male, 18-29, Europe
4278 Posts
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Thursday, September 09, 2010 12:06:25 PM
you are too proud to tell the guy that not only was it an unfair comparison and a bit mean spirited.
If CJ was offended by my statement, I apologise to him unreservedly. But I suspect he wasn't really, because he understood the comparison I was drawing, and that the criticism was aimed at your thinking, not his character. |
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almightybob1
Male, 18-29, Europe
4278 Posts
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Thursday, September 09, 2010 12:06:06 PM
No. No there isn't. CJ is pretty polite and logical. He is direct and honorable.
Those are not the qualities you chose to highlight. The ones you focused on were, and I quote you:
Agree or disagree with CJ, but the man has solid convictions and beliefs. It would be far easier for him to just no bother to post on such stuff. But he has the stones to step up knowing he will be attacked en' masse by all the "tolerant" lefties.
All you talk about are his solid convictions and beliefs (if you read my other posts again you'll notice I make repeated references to these two qualities in my suicide bomber analogies). Those two are traits that the WBC, ALF, CJ and suicide bombers all share - solid conviction and belief that they are right.
If you had said "Agree or disagree, with CJ, but the man is polite and logical, direct and honourable" I would have agreed with you (well, maybe not the logical one). But you didn |
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Wizard77
Male, 40-49, Western US
582 Posts
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Thursday, September 09, 2010 12:00:53 PM
I have to go but ill argue with you later. |
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Wizard77
Male, 40-49, Western US
582 Posts
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Thursday, September 09, 2010 11:57:56 AM
"If it was a choice between my brother smoking in my house and being tortured forever, I'd hand him the lighter personally."
And the rub comes in that according to you, the house, smoking and even you don't exist. So why all the worry about it?
Why not let us brainwashed chumps keep on sleeping? You and the overwhelming numbers that believe as you do can just make the world what it should be through sheer numbers. |
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Wizard77
Male, 40-49, Western US
582 Posts
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Thursday, September 09, 2010 11:53:11 AM
"...that being because there are obvious parallels between the qualities you respect in CJ and the qualities it takes to be a suicide bomber..."
No. No there isn't. CJ is pretty polite and logical. He is direct and honorable. You bail water on this sinking ship (going so far as to post the definition because I just don't get it) because what you said was crumby, and you are too proud to tell the guy that not only was it an unfair comparison and a bit mean spirited. |
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almightybob1
Male, 18-29, Europe
4278 Posts
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Thursday, September 09, 2010 11:47:44 AM
If it was a choice between my brother smoking in my house and being tortured forever, I'd hand him the lighter personally. |
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Wizard77
Male, 40-49, Western US
582 Posts
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Thursday, September 09, 2010 11:44:34 AM
If you say I cant smoke in your home, can I argue that I am your brother and we love eachother? If you really love me you will let me smoke. But see, if I love you, I will respect your house.
Twisting what I said into "GTFO" just makes you look silly. |
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almightybob1
Male, 18-29, Europe
4278 Posts
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Thursday, September 09, 2010 11:38:36 AM
You can beat this "well, you just don't understand" drum all you please. I understand just fine. You went too far with it and now you are stuck. Rather than own up you are trying to make it look like I am unintelligent. Another lame ploy.
You clearly DON'T understand.
Hyperbole (which I happily admit I used) is when you exaggerate. From Wikipedia:
Hyperbole is a rhetorical device in which statements are exaggerated. It may be used to evoke strong feelings or to create a strong impression, but is not meant to be taken literally.
That's what it means. I didn't accidentally go too far - I chose a deliberately provocative example in the hopes you would think about why I chose it (that being because there are obvious parallels between the qualities you respect in CJ and the qualities it takes to be a suicide bomber). |
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 moefreak
Female, 18-29, Europe
1969 Posts
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Thursday, September 09, 2010 11:34:04 AM
Wizard77, what? When did I say I'm pissed that people think that or say that? You are allowed to think and say whatever you want. What I'm arguing is that I don't believe that God "loves" all of his children and yet wants them to burn in hell for going against rules that he himself made up for some arbitrary reason. Either he hates homosexuals and thus wants them to go to hell, or he loves them but is somehow powerless to stop them having to go to hell. Either God is not benevolent or he is not omnipotent. Oldest argument in the book, and one that I have yet to see refuted. |
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almightybob1
Male, 18-29, Europe
4278 Posts
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Thursday, September 09, 2010 11:33:14 AM
Nah, I'm not angry, more fascinated. It's like a car crash you can't look away from. I really struggle to understand how you can square away the "my house, my rules, if you don't like it GTFO" homeowner in this analogy with a loving God. I treat the people I love better than that. |
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Wizard77
Male, 40-49, Western US
582 Posts
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Thursday, September 09, 2010 11:33:10 AM
As for ALF, surely taking action to support your convictions is even more respectable than merely talking about it but never following through?
You speak around corners sir. What CJ does here is present logical arguments and a pretty civilized manner. Trying to shoe-horn him into people that are constantly causing harm is pretty lame.
You can beat this "well, you just don't understand" drum all you please. I understand just fine. You went too far with it and now you are stuck. Rather than own up you are trying to make it look like I am unintelligent. Another lame ploy.
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