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Last Combat Troops Leave Iraq

Hits: 19040 | Rating: (2.8) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: cobrakiller
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piperfawn
Male, 30-39, Europe
 3890 Posts
Sunday, August 29, 2010 4:42:15 PM
Mwahhha i'm sure you was hoping i was death or something like that....but i'm not. I'm in an island somewere in the world far away from "civilization" but allways ready to answer to sionist or war fanatics on IAB. Good job USA you start a war you kill lot of civilians, you kill one of the puppets you have created(Saddam)and now you are ready to retire your troops leaving an entire region in the hands of chaos and revolution. Ohhh yes this is really what mean to be the Emperors...do what you want,drain some innocent blood(drain some oil over all) and finaly turn your head as if nothing heave never happen.I'm not against Obama, he is doing what he can with the current situation of the country that for ages have declared to be the leader of the world.I'm against all people that for ages have supported the sublime massacre and that today point a finger on Obama thinking all this situation is his fault.

piperfawn
Male, 30-39, Europe
 3890 Posts
Friday, August 27, 2010 3:02:35 PM
@auburnjunky
what you are sayng is so old but seem to be the best excuse of the sionists pigs, they like to paint the situation as if they are allways the poor virgin ready to be raped by the dirty palestinian orc.I assure you that a nation like Israel, full of mass destruction weapons,allready used lot of times against interational laws, at my eyes don't appear like a poor lost virgin. You cry against hezbolla or whatever(i don't like to) but remember is not allways white on one side and black on the other, real life is not the damned "Star Wars" movie(the modern epic poem for americans like Iliade or Odissea was for ancient Greeks).The sionist state of Israel have violated thousen of times humans rights so i'm not so shocked if sometime from other side the answer is not so polite as you pretend(not justifing the answer but just tryng to understand how the things works).

piperfawn
Male, 30-39, Europe
 3890 Posts
Friday, August 27, 2010 2:41:11 PM
Mwahhha i'm sure you was hoping i was death or something like that....but i'm not. I'm in an island somewere in the world far away from "civilization" but allways ready to answer to sionist or war fanatics on IAB. Good job USA you start a war you kill lot of civilians, you kill one of the puppets you have created(Saddam)and now you are ready to retire your troops leaving an entire region in the hands of chaos and revolution. Ohhh yes this is really what mean to be the Emperors...do what you want,drain some innocent blood(drain some oil over all) and finaly turn your head as if nothing heave never happen.I'm not against Obama, he is doing what he can with the current situation of the country that for ages have declared to be the leader of the world.I'm against all people that for ages have supported the sublime massacre and that today point a finger on Obama thinking all this situation is his fault.

auburnjunky
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 10129 Posts
Saturday, August 21, 2010 9:38:00 AM
"sure getting someone assasinated is illegal but i really doubt that the higher ups who have the power to do it really gives a drat especially if they could do it without getting caught"

Well if the US did it, it would be seen by the UN as a terrible act, no matter who they assassinated.

Kinda like how they call Hezbollah and Hamas defenders when they shoot missiles into Israeli markets, but when Israel fights back they are condemned and called horrible war mongers.

jib
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 314 Posts
Saturday, August 21, 2010 5:28:43 AM
sure getting someone assasinated is illegal but i really doubt that the higher ups who have the power to do it really gives a drat especially if they could do it without getting caught

davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
 12078 Posts
Saturday, August 21, 2010 12:13:19 AM
Bollocks to all of this. I'll reserve judgement until all the US troops are out of Iraq. Let's see then what a sh*t-storm clusterf*ck of a country we left behind us.

Unsavoury as it may sound, a post-US invasion Iraq may actually be be worse off than a Saddam Iraq. I very sincerly hope I'm wrong.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 25772 Posts
Friday, August 20, 2010 6:30:40 PM
There's a "magic number" for armies, I believe it's 3:1. That means 3 support persons for every "front line" trooper.
Adding 50K front line troops was a big deal, and a big risk if things went badly.
But they didn't! Bush won the war after all!

I'll explain for the slow of mind (madest) who don't quite get it: NORMALLY adding 50K combat troops means ALSO adding 150K support. This would DOUBLE the number of troops in Iraq, eh? Petrayus & Bush's plan was to add the combat troops for a short time to "surge" over the enemy like a wave. Get it? Ok? It was a GOOD PLAN.

Remember the MSM wailing how this would just put 50K more troops in harms way, to become casualties for no reason?
HUMMM why didn't they repeat that chant when Obama (half-assedly) did almost the same thing? HUMMMMM. Why is it a bad plan when Bush does it, but a great plan when Obama does it? HUMMM HUMMMMM...

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 25772 Posts
Friday, August 20, 2010 6:21:18 PM
I'd have rather have had Saddam assassinated with special ops

Actually that's illegal under internation treaty. Remember the first commander of Desert Storm 1? He talked casually of doing just that, and got fired a few days later.

The "Surge" was all media bluster by Bush.

Careful davymid, your Bush Derangement Syndrome is showing! lolz!
I clearly remember when General BETRAYUS (as the liberals called him, oh until Obama put him in charge! NOW he's a grrreat general!) proposed the surge the MSM was all over this aspect of it. He explained that this would be 50K COMBAT TROOPS not support, truck drivers or cooks. These were already in place, see? So every grunt the 'surge' brought in went directly to combat the enemy.
And HEY IT WORKED! Damn that Bush for his STUPID policies, like winning!

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17181 Posts
Friday, August 20, 2010 4:45:22 PM
IamBored29: Way to support our troops CJ. I'm sure they're glad to know you're more than willing to send them off to die.


Don't blame me, I'd have rather have had Saddam assassinated with special ops. Like to see the same done to Amendenutjob and Kim Jong Sicko.

No troops killed that way, But that is seen as too 'cowboy radical'.

Madluk
Male, 30-39, Western US
 45 Posts
Friday, August 20, 2010 4:22:58 PM
heh heh, duty.

NotTHATbored
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 1103 Posts
Friday, August 20, 2010 3:17:58 PM
@crosstraffic why would you join the army if you don't believe in what they are doing over there? If you believe that the war is about money (and I do too) then why are you over there risking your life and limb for that? Personally I think it's wrong to enlist if you don't believe in the war. Make them try and draft our @sses then we'll see if they can wage pointless wars.

crosstraffic
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 9 Posts
Friday, August 20, 2010 1:38:38 PM
All I know about this war is that it would of always happened. I didn't join because I think everything we do is the best. I am not here in Iraq right now because I think it is going to make a difference. I joined because no matter what we would send troops here and I'd rather it be me getting shot at than my friends and family. I am here so they don't have to be. So to all the people debating why we are here and what could've been done. Nothing would of changed what happened. We will always be at war at sometime or another because to America that means money to be made. Just know that our media is a joke and I wish that they would use this "freedom" we are fighting for and report the truth about who is still here, and what we are still doing. Instead they put that we are supporting IA and IP's (iraqi army, iraqi police) Belive me they are the ones planting the bombs. We are still fighting the same people we released a few months ago, till they tell us that we can go home to.

T-Marley
Male, 70 & Over, Eastern US
 600 Posts
Friday, August 20, 2010 10:56:49 AM
Technology has changed the way we wage wars, but because of the media and speed in which casualty and battle photographs reach the mainland.

Our troops should be held to a higher standard, but that doesn't necessarily mean how they wage war, but how they conduct themselves in other ways. No beheading, raping, or pillaging. Decent treatment of prisoners. We have created the most awesome killing machine on the planet, and every time in the last 40 years we have used it, we have handicapped the ability to use its full potential.

When you are at war it is live or die. No "higher moral standards" should make the life of any civilian, or especially enemy combatants worth more than those of our troops.

A perfect example is the treatment of Masjids in Iraq. In WW2 the best place for a sniper was in the belltower of a church. The first thing a tank hit in any city? The church tower. Cant' do that sort of thing now...even when pretend Muslims desecrate

davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
 12078 Posts
Friday, August 20, 2010 9:56:11 AM
There is no way that EVERY U.S. Soldier is out of Iraq. I bet there are thousands still there.

50,000 to be exact. Says so right there in the article.

tinkerwing
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 90 Posts
Friday, August 20, 2010 9:39:06 AM
There is no way that EVERY U.S. Soldier is out of Iraq. I bet there are thousands still there.

davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
 12078 Posts
Friday, August 20, 2010 9:30:16 AM
and davy your a drating idiot

*YOU'RE a drating idiot.

NewYorkHippi
Female, 13-17, Eastern US
 151 Posts
Friday, August 20, 2010 9:11:07 AM
GO OBAMA!

FrigginMo
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 266 Posts
Friday, August 20, 2010 8:40:36 AM
Yes we still have troops there, but not necessarily combative troops. They're trying to move to diplomacy at this point and allow Iraq to govern itself. A+

Musuko42
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2850 Posts
Friday, August 20, 2010 7:58:09 AM
" Also, I believe our troops should be held to a higher standard than in the past otherwise we'd be no better than the bad guys we're fighting. "

One of the rare occasions where CrakrJak speaks, and I agree.

Keyh
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 227 Posts
Friday, August 20, 2010 6:57:37 AM
It's all a bunch of PR spin bullpoo. We still have troops there.

IamBored29
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 647 Posts
Friday, August 20, 2010 6:53:58 AM
@CrakrJak

"Yes America has a weak stomach for bloodshed. Blame the Vietnam era protesting Hippies for that."

Yes, blame the American people for not wanting to watch their sons and daughters die to "free" another country who doesnt want it. Way to support our troops CJ. I'm sure they're glad to know you're more than willing to send them off to die.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17181 Posts
Friday, August 20, 2010 5:11:16 AM
Gerry: I don't think we're done over there.


I don't think we are either, But the will of the American people to continue it is gone.

The people of the US are pussies who want wars with no casualties and no brutality or violence. I don't think the bad guys are beaten by any measure.


Compared with earlier wars, Yes America has a weak stomach for bloodshed. Blame the Vietnam era protesting Hippies for that.

We carpet bombed Berlin in ww2 and we were hero's. Nowadays, let one civilian get his feelings hurt 'cause he wasn't treated respectfully and the troops are facing courts martial.


Technology is such now that we don't need to carpet bomb, Smart bombs have changed the way war is waged. Also, I believe our troops should be held to a higher standard than in the past otherwise we'd be no better than the bad guys we're fighting.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17181 Posts
Friday, August 20, 2010 5:02:49 AM
davymid: It wasn't the number of troops in 'The surge' it was the tactics of the surge that worked.

Our troops entered a city, Got rid of any insurgents, Got intelligence from sources in those communities, Raided weapons caches, And most of all they stayed there in those cities living with the population for several months until they could recruit and train new police and military.

PierreJeanFR
Male, 40-49, Europe
 1337 Posts
Friday, August 20, 2010 4:35:06 AM
should never have been there in the first place.

Fatninja01
Male, 18-29, Australia
 24631 Posts
Friday, August 20, 2010 2:56:37 AM
wow!

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