 MattPrince
Male, 40-49, Europe
 2221 Posts
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Monday, August 09, 2010 4:04:42 AM
This would be brilliant, after a good Phal at the local curry house, 300mph no problem...
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 Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
9554 Posts
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Sunday, August 08, 2010 2:34:54 AM
Yes. It's a methane extraction process. To me, that says that the primary process is still required.
I think it's part of sewage processing, or can be made so. For example, the Hyperion treatment plant near Los Angeles uses it to produce most of the electricity needed to run the plant - the methane process itself generates more power than it uses. It also makes the next stage of processing easier.
The results from that plant are impressive. It handles a huge amount of waste, uses less energy to do so, produces fertiliser and performs the necessary function of processing sewage, so I think the methane generating process is useful.
I think using it for cars is more about publicity than substance, though.
Good model choice - it's a dung beetle! |
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Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
9554 Posts
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Sunday, August 08, 2010 2:18:01 AM
Time to attach tubes to the back end of cows?
Surprisingly, it's the front end. Cows belch more than they fart.
Strange but true. |
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stonker
Male, 40-49, Europe
81 Posts
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Saturday, August 07, 2010 3:16:42 PM
as long as it doesn't smell this works for me, and not like the fuels ever gonna run out, well unless you've eaten a curry i guess ^^ |
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 CodeJockey
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
2419 Posts
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Saturday, August 07, 2010 10:05:12 AM
"In fact, does this process use more power than normal sewage processing?"
Yes. It's a methane extraction process. To me, that says that the primary process is still required.
"If it does, are the results better?"
I say "no" because in an environment like Detroit, the yield equates to work commute for one adult.
The article immediately touts the car as an electric alternative. I took that as, by extension, they are thinking their Petroleum-methane hybrid is a viable alternative to my currently-in-use petroleum-electric hybrid.
I would like to know the origin and at what volume of electricity went into pumping, mixing, collecting then compressing the methane.
Then, since the car still uses petroleum, what was the resulting petroleum fuel efficiency?
My particular Fusion has been well into the 50's of MPG. This year, between 04-10 and 05-10, I went 700+ miles on 14 USgal. |
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 bigbangbilly
Male, 13-17, Eastern US
705 Posts
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Saturday, August 07, 2010 8:41:51 AM
nice
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 mal_BB
Male, 18-29, Europe
1223 Posts
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Saturday, August 07, 2010 7:39:08 AM
Time to attach tubes to the back end of cows? |
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 aseirinn
Male, 70 & Over, Europe
879 Posts
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Saturday, August 07, 2010 2:32:38 AM
my boss once told me that 'no idea was a s h i t idea'...i told him to 'f u c k off'... |
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 An-egg
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
726 Posts
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Friday, August 06, 2010 10:17:57 PM
"The Bio-Bug does 5.3 miles per cubic metre of biogas, which means that just one sewage works could power 95,400,000 miles per year saving 19,000 tonnes of CO2."
Although burning the gas produces CO2 and water.
Just saying. |
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oxyl
Male, 30-39, Canada
919 Posts
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Friday, August 06, 2010 6:11:56 PM
they can have my poo for this |
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 Jowsh
Male, 18-29, Europe
1057 Posts
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Friday, August 06, 2010 5:13:21 PM
i knew that pooing into my fuel tank would save me more than it costed one day |
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Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
9554 Posts
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Friday, August 06, 2010 4:59:36 PM
The actual problem:
"...Excrement flushed down the lavatories of just 70 homes is enough to power the car for 10,000 miles - the equivalent of one average motoring year..."
If this is correct, the waste from one house (two people) is only enough to drive 142.8 miles per year.
The amount of power require to run the process exceeds the yield.
Does the amount of power used *in excess of that used for normal sewage processing* exceed the yield? The sewage would have to be processed anyway.
In fact, does this process use more power than normal sewage processing?
If it does, are the results better?
It might be a viable process. Obviously it can't replace much oil, but it might be of some use. |
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 entwife
Female, 18-29, Western US
537 Posts
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Friday, August 06, 2010 4:59:23 PM
it's about time someone started making engines like this! Think of all the people in the world that are chock full of sh*t; now they could acually be helpful members of society. And we would never ever run out of fuel.... |
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Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
9554 Posts
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Friday, August 06, 2010 4:53:08 PM
This is actually an excellent idea. You need to do something with human waste and it's a plentiful resource that doesn't require anything that doesn't already exist. No ruining ecosystems with massive monocrop farms, like biodiesel. |
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 davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
11682 Posts
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Friday, August 06, 2010 4:02:14 PM
and oil is the decomposed remnants of large lizard carcasses.....
Nah, it's almost exclusively algae. |
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 Angelmassb
Male, 18-29, S. America
15474 Posts
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Friday, August 06, 2010 3:55:07 PM
Great now we are literally flushing money down the toilet |
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 Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
25658 Posts
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Friday, August 06, 2010 2:29:15 PM
and oil is the decomposed remnants of large lizard carcasses..... I'm okay with it all as long as I can get to the bar before happy hour ends. |
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 sbeelz
Male, 30-39, Western US
2860 Posts
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Friday, August 06, 2010 1:57:44 PM
That's pretty awesome. And no, the gas wouldn't smell as long as it's been through some kind of filtration/purification process. Methane is odorless. |
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 VirtualParty
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
794 Posts
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Friday, August 06, 2010 1:55:31 PM
Code Jokey, I'm sure you can just ya know...find a place that has a lot. Drain someone's septic or something. |
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 Fatninja01
Male, 18-29, Australia
23995 Posts
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Friday, August 06, 2010 1:47:22 PM
mythbusters already did it! |
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 KtySpix
Male, 18-29, Canada
579 Posts
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Friday, August 06, 2010 1:40:17 PM
Stink Beetle |
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CodeJockey
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
2419 Posts
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Friday, August 06, 2010 1:03:52 PM
Hydrogen-sulfide gets removed during the process = No bathroom smell.
The actual problem:
"...Excrement flushed down the lavatories of just 70 homes is enough to power the car for 10,000 miles - the equivalent of one average motoring year..."
If this is correct, the waste from one house (two people) is only enough to drive 142.8 miles per year.
The amount of power require to run the process exceeds the yield. |
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 IssaTheFiend
Female, 18-29, Western US
2362 Posts
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Friday, August 06, 2010 12:36:28 PM
They kept stating how we'd never know the difference but I really doubt that. .I really think it would smell of farts. |
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 RockWell
Male, 18-29, Western US
56 Posts
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Friday, August 06, 2010 12:05:30 PM
can we sell our own? |
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ShaggydogJV
Male, 18-29, Western US
30 Posts
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Friday, August 06, 2010 11:34:35 AM
I like to feel that we've all made a contribution in the development of this cars fuel. |
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