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 gbrzeatetee
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 174 Posts
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Thursday, August 12, 2010 12:41:58 PM
Welcome to Israel, where a large opaque sheet of fabric covering your body is considered sexually deviant and where a judge can force you to divorce. |
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 dax2009
Female, 50-59, Midwest US
322 Posts
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Sunday, August 08, 2010 1:15:19 AM
Baal, you have your head buried in the sand. One more point - Muslim men, per the Koran, are allowed to rape their wives. Granted, it hasn't been that long ago in the western world that our courts caught up to evil of that, but still. |
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 Linkenberger
Male, 18-29, Canada
1067 Posts
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Saturday, August 07, 2010 10:52:58 PM
At least it's better than getting acid in the face for not wearing one! |
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 dooflotchie
Female, 30-39, Eastern US
336 Posts
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Friday, August 06, 2010 8:43:35 PM
*eyeroll*
That is sofa king we todd did. |
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 LtFurpie
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
1018 Posts
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Thursday, August 05, 2010 7:28:49 PM
Either the UK Telegraph has partnered with The Onion, or just another repetitious example of "religion fail"
(I kinda hope it's both) |
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 jinxiejae
Female, 30-39, Western US
2473 Posts
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Thursday, August 05, 2010 5:27:15 PM
*head desk ,head desk, head desk. * why are people so damn stupid! |
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 BrimstoneOne
Male, 30-39, Canada
2229 Posts
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Thursday, August 05, 2010 1:21:57 PM
religious wing nuts strike again |
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 BunnyNaku
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
5245 Posts
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Thursday, August 05, 2010 1:02:57 PM
eh /shrug |
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 Fatninja01
Male, 18-29, Australia
23995 Posts
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Thursday, August 05, 2010 12:05:59 PM
meh |
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 Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
9438 Posts
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Thursday, August 05, 2010 9:51:52 AM
@yanging
Who said that was the law in these countries? |
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 yanging
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
172 Posts
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Thursday, August 05, 2010 8:40:56 AM
@baal,
Why should there even need to be 3 witnesses to a rape? Why can't the woman who cried rape and the medical practitioner who examined her suffice? |
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 fnkychkn
Female, 40-49, Eastern US
862 Posts
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Thursday, August 05, 2010 8:36:38 AM
Let them do what they want. Who cares? |
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Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
9438 Posts
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Thursday, August 05, 2010 8:23:35 AM
Not even Jordan or Syria fall into the category. |
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Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
9438 Posts
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Thursday, August 05, 2010 8:19:29 AM
@Baal
I'm with you on this one. I've heard people rant against Muslim countries before. They all seem to be in this category of anti-Christian, anti-Jew, and anti-decency. For Turkey that simply isn't the case.
@Gerry1of1
I'd hit that! lulz. |
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 Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
25617 Posts
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Thursday, August 05, 2010 8:12:43 AM
a sexual fetish? Are they having Wet Burqa contests? |
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 meepmaker
Male, 30-39, Southern US
6716 Posts
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Thursday, August 05, 2010 7:51:18 AM
I gotta say I like the states and our bikini clad girls. |
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 davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
11679 Posts
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Thursday, August 05, 2010 1:24:43 AM
vv Oi, leave us out of this! |
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 Baalthazaq
Male, 18-29, Asia
4753 Posts
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Thursday, August 05, 2010 12:51:23 AM
That's not to say there isn't a problem in the ME, but seriously, it's like blaming the Irish for traffic. Yes, OK, I'm sure a couple of people in traffic might be Irish, that doesn't make them "the problem". |
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Baalthazaq
Male, 18-29, Asia
4753 Posts
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Thursday, August 05, 2010 12:46:52 AM
Look. Any reasonable comparison of Muslim countries to non Muslim countries comes up with similar results.
The human race can be pretty despicable. Worldwide the upper limit on how many women are raped or sexually abused is 30%. 30%! That's insane, and revolting that we can live in a world that disgusting.
Is the Middle East the problem? No. The highest rates are South America, and South Africa. Which incidentally have some of the highest prostitution rates, rather than Burqa rates.
But somehow you've taken this as an opportunity to pick on a specific group, who don't factor anywhere in this equation. Even extremely high end estimates put the Middle East problem below the world average. (Go ahead, find the highest stats you can for any Middle Eastern country. Amnesty estimates, feminist group estimates, anything). You're not solving anything. You're just promoting a stereotype that hides the problem. |
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Baalthazaq
Male, 18-29, Asia
4753 Posts
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Thursday, August 05, 2010 12:36:26 AM
Dax:
I've already pretty much answered your slightly warped view on the matter in my reply to Sarah, including the four male witnesses fallacy.
First, male is not a prerequisite (nor do male witnesses count as two, and in the case of adultery, an accused woman's testimony counts as more than 3 male witnesses).
Second, a medical practitioner can attest as a witness. Witness doesn't mean "has seen the events".
Third it's not four witnesses. (It's 3)
Fourth, your analysis of repercussions is false (as stated to Sarah).
Finally your turn: What's your excuse for why men are "very very very very very" unlikely to be convicted. I already showed that no European or American system fares much better. The UK has an 0.7% lead on the Middle East Average. That's enough for you to shut your eyes and point fingers to a "Muslim" problem instead of a world one? |
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Baalthazaq
Male, 18-29, Asia
4753 Posts
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Thursday, August 05, 2010 12:25:21 AM
Sarahofborg:
The same can be said of the UK where "40% of Brits are in favor of rape" according to the newspapers a couple of years ago based on a study. This is of course utter bullpoo and those statistics were completely warped before being turned into a headline.
The questions asked were basically "Do you think women are more likely to be raped if drunk". The answer to that, factually, is yes. 40% of people answered yes.
The headlines termed this as them being "pro-rape".
Now, of course the British public (mostly) picked up on this for the bullpoo it was. Unfortunately, when the same bullpoo is espoused about Muslim countries, the same bullpoo detectors go into hibernate mode.
There was one case in Saudi, and one in the UAE in the last 5 years, where a girl was punished after being raped for a crime, NOT as it was widely reported in the press FOR being raped. |
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 Zerocyde
Male, 18-29, Western US
3279 Posts
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Wednesday, August 04, 2010 11:39:49 PM
Ehh, as long as it pisses off the ultra religious. |
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dax2009
Female, 50-59, Midwest US
322 Posts
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Wednesday, August 04, 2010 11:15:00 PM
Under Sharia law (legal system of Islam) there has to be four male witnesses to a rape. Which is why men are very very very very very unlikely to be convicted. But when a woman cries 'rape', she has admitted to having sex. UNLAWFUL sex. Seeing as how she WASN'T raped, i.e. no four witnesses, she has committed adultery, and can be stoned by the authorities, or killed to protect the 'honor' of her family. (These 'honor' killings are beginning to happen more and more frequently in the U.S., as the Muslim population here rises.) OF COURSE MUSLIM COUNTRIES HAVE A LOW RAPE RATE. Sheeesh. |
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 sbeelz
Male, 30-39, Western US
2860 Posts
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Wednesday, August 04, 2010 11:12:32 PM
*sigh* |
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 SarahofBorg
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
3527 Posts
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Wednesday, August 04, 2010 10:53:17 PM
I didn't claim to be an expert, I just repeated what I might have heard some where. Also, from the facts you just listed, you're saying a very small number of men are punished for rape. From what I've heard, women are much, much more likely to be punished for being raped, because so man believe it's their fault.
Basically, if it's a respectable woman everyone agrees is righteous and not a slut, then the man gets punished severely for violating a good woman. But they believe most women who get raped are sluts and had it coming to begin with, and are even bigger sluts just for "letting" it happen. |
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