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Crazy Christians

Hits: 22690 | Rating: (2.8) | Category: Community & Lifestyle | Added by: shortsagitar
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bryantm3
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 169 Posts
Sunday, August 01, 2010 1:38:33 AM
"The bible contradicts itself enough times to become bullpoo."

What many forget is that the bible was written by men who had their own personal opinions put into it, not on purpose necessarily, but out of our own human nature. I can assure you this video is not supported by most Jews and Christians. This video pretty much sums up the backwoods Christian philosophy that you find in the hills in America.

What no one will tell you also is that the "antichrist" which so many Christians claimed Obama was, is almost entirely a theology taken from the Qu'ran. This version of Christianity, and many other religions, that are taught in such a fundamentalist fashion, rarely have much to do with the principles that the Qu'ran, New Testament, and the Tanakh are based upon. God reaches many cultures through many different ways, and there is no need to convert people by the masses, only teach them what is right and wrong (ie: do not kill, steal, love your neighb

mandingo3519
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 192 Posts
Sunday, August 01, 2010 1:35:44 AM
ok lets keep christian bashing going I am a christian but not a preaching type i try to keep it to myself unless someone wants to talk with me about it however this is getting about tiring first off i ask this why is it when a christian contridicts an athiest they are preaching and bashing but doing this is acceptable??? i thought tolerance for others beliefs was something intelegent ppl did but most important to this rant is how stupid this would sound if it was directed at a diff belief (yes admit it or not athiesm is a belief too) "welcome little baby to the world but first u must know u were born for no reason, must be a good person to others for no reason and little different than the monkey you see at the zoo just be glad you dont have a tail" now that sounds pretty stupid to me IMO the bible does conflict in some places but remember one little fact, it has been trainslated from language to language thousands if not millions of times so it has changed alot

Buiadh
Male, 30-39, Europe
 6653 Posts
Sunday, August 01, 2010 12:53:16 AM
"God does not hate us for 'original sin' nor for 'killing his son', Seriously, That's garbage and contradicts the bible. "

The bible contradicts itself enough times to become bullpoo.

dontcare91
Male, 13-17, Western US
 65 Posts
Sunday, August 01, 2010 12:34:49 AM
tricked baby is tricked.

davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
 12073 Posts
Sunday, August 01, 2010 12:28:08 AM
Cajun247: That's because the Hagia Sophia is now a mosque. Many former Christian churches in the middle east are now mosques. Muslim persecution of Christians is occurring all over the middle east and asia. Egypt, Palestine, Syria, Iran, Turkey, Pakistan, India, Malaysia, Nepal, Indonesia, Burma, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, UAE, and more... All have had Christians killed and churches burned just for their faith.

For the first time, I agree with you Crackr. There is definitely a dichotomy going on here.

Now what if we removed religion, so that the Christian Turks and the Muslim Turks had literally no idea who held the Hagia Sophia? A purely Turkish landmark, to be celebrated, rather than fought over? How would you know who the enemy was, if they were the same ethnicity, race, nationality, etc etc? I propose that you wouldn't have any idea, youd just be a patriotic Turk proud of a national landmark.

Religion breeds conflict,on a massive scale

davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
 12073 Posts
Sunday, August 01, 2010 12:17:16 AM
@davymid another foolish idealist.

I'm neither foolish, nor an idealist, thank you. Tackling accusation #2, I recognise that the ideal world I envisage will never come to be, nor do I rally and try to make people see my vision of my personal Utopia. That would be fruitless.

On #1, I assure sure, I'm many things, but I'm not a fool. I've even been accused of being intelligent.

Suicism
Male, 18-29, Western US
 3672 Posts
Saturday, July 31, 2010 11:54:45 PM
Ok, meta joke - I worried there for a second! Pretty much spells it out though - a consummate win. Nothing more to say.

BigMordecai
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 94 Posts
Saturday, July 31, 2010 11:44:48 PM
@davymid another foolish idealist.Never is anything so simple with something so large as religion.These ideas evolved for a reason,yes societies and ideas evolve and are selected.Not all christians believe what this video even says.People are born worthless but that's the opposite of what religion says- read philosophers for and against it.The fact is current morality is based on stability and other such necessities. Also religion isn't the core of much death- people kill each other in mass numbers without it and will always- like the Holodomor. Current morality is based on the slave religion, such as concepts like basic equality first came from it despite claims of kings.Your morality is probably highly inconsistent.If its not then you have to ask things like why is it wrong to kill people?Many are simply parasites when our duty left is reproduction and evolution as seemed by our own creation.You will probably simply fit the answers to your ideas,like a fundamentalist.

louisecstasy
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 87 Posts
Saturday, July 31, 2010 11:29:15 PM
lol this is just sad how a lot of people fall for this kind of things and live for an imaginary person because they belive that if they dont theyre going to suffer i mean really? but whatever this is just my oppinion

Nidonemo
Male, 18-29, Western US
 9216 Posts
Saturday, July 31, 2010 11:29:15 PM
"Wtf japan seriously?!?"

Thank you.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16958 Posts
Saturday, July 31, 2010 11:20:12 PM
Cajun247: That's because the Hagia Sophia is now a mosque. Many former Christian churches in the middle east are now mosques. Muslim persecution of Christians is occurring all over the middle east and asia. Egypt, Palestine, Syria, Iran, Turkey, Pakistan, India, Malaysia, Nepal, Indonesia, Burma, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, UAE, and more... All have had Christians killed and churches burned just for their faith.

davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
 12073 Posts
Saturday, July 31, 2010 10:31:09 PM
(sorry for triple post): These posts below are part of the reason why I openly identify myself not just as atheist, but as anti-theist. I genuinely think the world would be a better place without religion.

davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
 12073 Posts
Saturday, July 31, 2010 10:30:56 PM
I guess my point is, if we didn't have completely man-made religious labels such as "Catholic" or "Protestant" to differentiate one from the other, then how would you know who the enemy was so that you could car-bomb them? To me, any form of tribalism is bad and causes separation and strife in the human condition. Some forms of tribalism or separatism are obvious, such as race or nationality. Others not so obvious, such as religion. If there WERE no religion, how would the 9-11 bombers know who the infidels were to fly aircraft into their buildings? How would the Palestinian suicide bomber know which cafe to run into with a grenade vest, if that cafe wasn't Jewish? How would the Shiite muslim know which market in Baghdad to bomb if it wasn't a Sunni muslim area of town? All false labels we put on ourselves without which we wouldn't see each other as adversaries because you'd have no idea who the enemy was.

davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
 12073 Posts
Saturday, July 31, 2010 10:29:25 PM
davymid - wasn't the Irish war more about poor vs rich and nationalism (irish against british invadors)>?

That's what precipitated the conflict in the first place yes, but while it was ongoing for 30+ years, rest assured it was purely sectarian violence. You couldn't tell someone's political ideologies from the look of them in the street (bear in mind these are all white Irish europeans, all look alike), so the only way you could tell who the enemy was was on religious grounds. You could tell by someone's name, the school they went to, the area of town they lived in, even if you didn't have the overt knowledge of where they went to church on a sunday. Hence the reason why catholic chapels, protestant churches etc were targeted. Toward the end they were literally murdering people of the other religion just because they were the other religion.

Boadicea
Female, 18-29, Canada
 1668 Posts
Saturday, July 31, 2010 9:27:51 PM
Cute baby.

That's all I've got.

dax2009
Female, 50-59, Midwest US
 322 Posts
Saturday, July 31, 2010 9:06:54 PM
cajun247: the Hagia Sophia only makes my point. It was a Christian Basilica for 1,000 years before it was stolen by the muslims then made into a mosque - it's relics stolen or destroyed, it's mosiacs torn up. It was fairly recently turned int a museum. Wikipedia has an entire section devoted to Christian persecution in Turkey - you didn't read far enough. The Greek patriarch of Turkey has gone so far as to say he felt "crucified" by the oppression.

dax2009
Female, 50-59, Midwest US
 322 Posts
Saturday, July 31, 2010 8:54:22 PM
davymid - wasn't the Irish war more about poor vs rich and nationalism (irish against british invadors)>?

davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
 12073 Posts
Saturday, July 31, 2010 8:46:11 PM
No sweat Stelly, Cajun. And just to muddy the waters further, being anti-theist doesn't necessarily mean that you mock religions, simply that you believe the world would be a better place without religion in it, as opposed to atheism which is just a lack of belief in any gods.

I, for one, am an atheist and anti-theist, although I don't go out of my way to poke fun at religion. I simply think religion does more harm than good. Growing up in Belfast Northern Ireland, watching one group of Christians systematically murdering another group of Christians purely and simply for being a slightly different *flavour* of Christian (in this case Protestant and Catholic) tends to have that effect on you... I myself have seen smears of bloody paste on walls and chunks of charred meat on the sidewalk that used to be people. Just people that happened to belong to the wrong religion on that particular day.

FlameOfUdun
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 1234 Posts
Saturday, July 31, 2010 8:15:42 PM
I can't even get past 30 seconds of this video. It is very much wrong.

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10238 Posts
Saturday, July 31, 2010 7:51:27 PM
In a sense I stand corrected by your explanation. I like everyone else was confusing anti-theists (people who actively mock ... religion
) and atheists (people who mind there own business
).

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10238 Posts
Saturday, July 31, 2010 7:48:48 PM
@davymid
Don't be too surprised. I've even heard allegations that evangelical movement has been hijacked.
It's intended purpose:
Confront the injustices of poverty and homelessness.

Stelly
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 321 Posts
Saturday, July 31, 2010 7:43:19 PM
Thank you davymid, and as I have posted before, can you guys post something on the difference so more people are aware. I am so sick people assuming atheists are always anti-theistic. A square is a rectangle but a rectangle is not a square.

davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
 12073 Posts
Saturday, July 31, 2010 7:18:28 PM
The statement above is proof that atheism is a prejudice, and its only premise is hatred for most of humanity.

I think you're confusing atheism with anti-theism, as Ogen alludes to below. Atheism is, by definition, simply a lack of belief in any gods. The poster you reference is clearly anti-theist (i.e. against religion in all its forms). One can be atheist without being actively anti-theistic.

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10238 Posts
Saturday, July 31, 2010 6:53:50 PM
Jordan: 92% Sunni

Not mentioned in bold text in the Article on "Persecution of Christians" Wikipedia.
If anything Jordan was a safe haven for Christians during the early stages of our War in Iraq.

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10238 Posts
Saturday, July 31, 2010 6:35:19 PM
Even in Turkey these murders, rapes, kidnappings have been committed by members of fringe groups of Islam.

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