 Matwix_2004
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2096 Posts
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Wednesday, July 20, 2011 12:55:46 AM
Maps - Yes, you are right, I was being a little flippant with the word proves, but genetically we are fairly close to mice, which is why they are often tested on before whatever it is is released to the public. But I meant that if there is a gene in mice that makes them straight or gay, then there is a good chance there is one in humans, and all animals. Just because I didn't explicitly state it doesn't mean it wasn't intended in the argument I was making. |
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 Maps
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
51 Posts
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Sunday, August 15, 2010 6:44:17 AM
It doesn't "prove" anything, Matwix. Only someone completely unfamiliar with genetics, psychology, and neuroscience would take a five paragraph long article obviously written for an audience of laymen, and with the disclaimer "While oestrogen masculinises the brain in mice, it does not have the same effect on humans", and have the arrogance to use the word "proves" so flippantly. In all likelihood homosexuality is influenced by both genetics and environment. |
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Matwix_2004
Male, 18-29, Europe
2096 Posts
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Monday, July 19, 2010 2:27:21 AM
mischeif954 - they say that being gay is a choice. This proves that it's genetic. |
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mischeif954
Male, 18-29, Southern US
327 Posts
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Thursday, July 15, 2010 7:59:56 AM
Whats the link between this and anti-gay protesters? |
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 malikymoo
Female, 18-29, Europe
1945 Posts
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Thursday, July 15, 2010 5:33:11 AM
'it may be "very difficult" to find willing volunteers for humans' no poo. |
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 defiythelie
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
232 Posts
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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 9:39:20 PM
SuperSmash
You obviously do not under stand how science works. First a scientist creates a hypothesis, and then sets up experiments to see if that hypothesis is correct. If sciencetist did not do this all they would be doing is randomly messing with stuff to see what the result would be, and that would not get us very far. This is how every experiment is played out, and just because a scientist goes into an experiment with an educated guess as to the out come does not corrupt the data or out come unless its some crooked unknown scientist doing it. In every other case every thing is peer reviewed and checked again and again by many others. |
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 moefreak
Female, 18-29, Europe
1969 Posts
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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 5:38:12 PM
Very interesting. Obviously not directly applicable to humans, but quite suggestive.
And no, supersmash. As a few others have said, you always start out an experiment by formulating a hypothesis. You don't just start randomly trying things to see if anything comes out of it. |
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 green_batman
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
730 Posts
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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 3:41:57 PM
SuperSmash: The results of any trial of this sort should be questioned until they are tested and retested extensively. Unfortunately, it is difficult to find grant money to redo an experiment as extra support for it, so it is uncommon for it to happen.
However, pursuing a hypothesis does not automatically make the results biased. If you ever did a science fair project in grade school, you probably remember stating a hypothesis and then seeing whether or not it was supported. While some people may fudge their data for some petty reason, good scientists don't and can't because they are peer reviewed. |
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Matwix_2004
Male, 18-29, Europe
2096 Posts
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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 2:15:03 PM
SuperSmash - if they're activly seeking a result, it doesn't mean that they are activly seeking for a sepcific result, which would bring the results into question. They were activly looking for a link between genes, and sexuality, therefore, they were activly looking for a result in the tests they were doing. |
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 SuperSmash
Male, 18-29, Southern US
3770 Posts
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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 1:57:13 PM
I was wondering why scientists have been actively seeking a genetic link to homosexuality, as the article states. If a scientist is actively seeking any result, then the results must be brought into question. |
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 OmgZelda
Female, 18-29, Canada
1600 Posts
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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 1:20:31 PM
FucM gene? Is this an Onion article?  |
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 Weakmonkey
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
190 Posts
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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 12:48:39 PM
FucM gene? Next, theyll discover that disabling the FucMe gene in males causes them to be gay!
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 TokioKoos
Female, 18-29, Europe
415 Posts
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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 12:38:56 PM
> So, can I delete my wifes gene, so I can finally convince her to visit taco town?
I don't know if she is still sleeping with you now (you seem rather crude) but keep in mind if you do that, she will never sleep with you again. |
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 RoboPatton
Male, 30-39, Western US
1947 Posts
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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 10:36:22 AM
So, can I delete my wifes gene, so I can finally convince her to visit taco town? |
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 meepmaker
Male, 30-39, Southern US
6716 Posts
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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 7:37:46 AM
I guess the pet store will sell gay mice now. |
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 B3N0C1D3
Male, 18-29, Western US
788 Posts
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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 7:15:07 AM
@FLCL_Reaper
Every species that doesn't asexually reproduce. |
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 Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
25557 Posts
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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 7:03:30 AM
"disabling the FucM gene" ? ? ?
this has to be a joke...right? the FucM [pronounced "FCuk-em" ] gene?
LOL good one. |
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videogamer
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
3031 Posts
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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 6:39:57 AM
"FucM Gene matches this a little too well. o_o"
Yeah, I'm seeing reason to doubt the validity of this story. |
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 crabcake
Female, 30-39, Eastern US
398 Posts
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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 6:38:55 AM
replace w/ fudgeM-All gene for bisexual mice. |
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donjobs
Male, 18-29, Canada
67 Posts
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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 5:56:05 AM
i sharted |
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 FLCL_Reaper
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
92 Posts
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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 4:55:13 AM
YEAH, WHO NEEDS MEN!!! |
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 frajola
Female, 18-29, S. America
100 Posts
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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 4:51:08 AM
I went looking for the fake news header when I saw the FucM gene |
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 Wiggle1111
Male, 18-29, Europe
78 Posts
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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 4:15:29 AM
Its the Telegraph. So no, its not a joke. Its as real as homosexuality is a sin*
*sarcasm |
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 OrangeCrow
Female, 18-29, Western US
1208 Posts
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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 3:09:47 AM
FucM Gene matches this a little too well. o_o |
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 mal_BB
Male, 18-29, Europe
1223 Posts
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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 2:39:33 AM
FucM gene? Lol at that, but seriously, this is impressive research. |
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