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ingrateful Male, 13-17, Southern US
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Sunday, June 13, 2010 4:25:45 PM she sounds sorta convincing.. then again she repeats herself |
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addler Male, 13-17, Midwest US
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Saturday, June 12, 2010 3:05:35 PM "Or maybe they could not rape women. That usually works best." or maybe women should all abstain from drinking,all clubs should be shut down, the consent forms that were mentioned earlier should be made mandatory and all rich guys should not be allowed to have sex because a one night stand to them is a bank vault opening to others
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Amurika Male, 30-39, Eastern US
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Saturday, June 12, 2010 9:51:21 AM "Like, you can tell I'm lying by like, how many times I use the word like. Like, my fidgety body language like totally gives me away?" whore FAIL! |
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Brassbull Male, 30-39, Southern US
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Saturday, June 12, 2010 6:46:16 AM Earl_Grey: Did I say that fantasizing about being raped makes it OK for a man to rape a woman? No, I specifically said in my comment that I did NOT THINK THAT. All I said was it makes the matter fuzzier than some people want it to be. You are right that giving consent for the fantasy won't kill it. However, the more she explains, the less of a fantasy it becomes, and men are aware of the fantasy exists in the minds of a lot of women doesn't help. Paganmomblog: "If a woman stands in a room of men and says she wants to have sex she sure as hell will get laid by someone." Women don't do this because they want to be chased, have a guy read her signals, and make a move without hearing the girl give approval. Marriage changes the rules completely, but when you're dating, you're not already intimately familiar with the man and want him to be a man and take action. Again, I am NOT saying this makes it OK for men to rape women. |
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PaganMomBlog Female, 30-39, Southern US
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Saturday, June 12, 2010 6:02:57 AM "Women want a man who doesn't need consent" I call bullpoo. I do not want a man who doesn't need consent. I want a man who respects me and my body and doesn't feel he can take it just because I am there. "If she has to tell him that she wants to have sex, then they're not going to be having sex." I call bullpoo on this one too. If a woman stands in a room of men and says she wants to have sex she sure as hell will get laid by someone. I have told my husband before that I have been in the mood and he sure as poo has made himself available to me, not once in 15 yrs has he turned me away. And if he makes a move and I am not in the mood, we don't have sex. |
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Earl_Grey Female, 18-29, Canada
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Friday, June 11, 2010 8:33:43 PM make it okay for rapists to rape (men or women). |
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Earl_Grey Female, 18-29, Canada
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Friday, June 11, 2010 8:33:06 PM @Brassbull just because someone fantasizes about being raped does not mean that it's okay for someone to actually rape them. usually when someone has that type of fantasy they would have to talk about how the scene would be set up and what to do during the scene. that would be the consent for that particular scene. because they've discussed it doesn't mean that the partner has permission to do it from now on whenever they like. it's just for that scene. just because a portion of women fantasize about being mock-raped does NOT |
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CzekM8 Male, 40-49, Western US
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Friday, June 11, 2010 1:53:55 PM Yes, her description was probably pretty much exactly how it went down; omitted, however, is how he got past her clothing. Without violence or the threat of violence, how did he get her legs apart and get past her clothing? Also missing is what she was doing with her hands; was she using them to push him away? Doubtful. Like, something just isn't, like, jiving, like, here. |
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Brassbull Male, 30-39, Southern US
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Friday, June 11, 2010 11:05:45 AM if theres no consent guys, its rape. she says no, she means no... It's not that black and white. Women want a man who doesn't need consent. If she has to tell him that she wants to have sex, then they're not going to be having sex. To make matters more complicated, a huge number of women I've spoken to about sexual desires say they fantasize about being raped (by someone they're attracted to and trust of course), and this is a paradox because again, if the woman has to give verbal consent, the fantasy dies and no one gets laid. When you give that much responsibility to anyone, there are going to be instances where they abuse it or misinterpret signals. I'm not suggesting this should vindicate any rapist, but the issue is much more gray than you would like it to be. |
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buxco215 Male, 18-29, Eastern US
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Friday, June 11, 2010 10:44:21 AM Mynamecandi definitely wins at life! Nice one! ;D |
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addler Male, 13-17, Midwest US
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Friday, June 11, 2010 10:14:52 AM "Or maybe they could not rape women. That usually works best." or maybe women should all abstain from drinking,all clubs should be shut down, the consent forms that were mentioned earlier should be made mandatory and all rich guys should not be allowed to have sex because a one night stand to them is a bank vault opening to others
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belunan Male, 30-39, Western US
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Friday, June 11, 2010 10:10:00 AM "If lame poo like this is all it takes to be accused of rape, single guys need to start carrying consensual sex agreement documents for chicks to sign before they even go into a room alone with them." "Or maybe they could not rape women. That usually works best." Yeah, and maybe they could assume that women never lie. Go ask the 2006 Duke lacrosse team how that worked out for them. Try listening to *both* sides and weighing evidence instead of automatically reaching for the torches and pitchforks. |
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SephirothA83 Male, 18-29, Midwest US
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Friday, June 11, 2010 7:58:12 AM Like, like, im going to tell you how it was like, weird, for like a minute, so like, when I figure out, like, what I'm like, going to make up, you'll like, believe me. Like |
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slugs Male, 30-39, Eastern US
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Friday, June 11, 2010 7:21:18 AM What's the point of going clubbing if you aren't going to be getting it on with some random person? Isn't that what it's all about? Dressing up like a slut and hooking up with some dude? If this isn't the reason why women go clubbing, please tell me what is. Anyway, she should be happy it was a famous football player for once and not just a regular old Axe-soaked d-bag like she's used to. |
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mynamecandi Female, 18-29, Southern US
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Friday, June 11, 2010 7:03:01 AM And Like, Then Like, So Like, Ok Like, But Like, He Like, No Like. Maybe she Liked it aaaahhahahahahaha |
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bmh Female, 18-29, Southern US
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Friday, June 11, 2010 6:52:30 AM "If lame poo like this is all it takes to be accused of rape, single guys need to start carrying consensual sex agreement documents for chicks to sign before they even go into a room alone with them." Or maybe they could not rape women. That usually works best. |
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meepmaker Male, 30-39, Southern US
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Friday, June 11, 2010 6:42:34 AM Its gonna be all good. Im sure it will all work out. |
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ruthless1990 Female, 18-29, Europe
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Friday, June 11, 2010 6:17:31 AM okay she did not consent, so stop blaming the freaking victim!!! and she doesnt sound upset because many victims make it matter of fact to deal with it, if they included the emotions they feelt at the time they would probably break down. anyone who is judging the victim here is a complete f*cktard. so angry at people who dont understand rape, if theres no consent guys, its rape. she says no, she means no... and many people say that girls cry rape when they havent been, when infact the % of rape that the police say have been falsified is exactly the same % as any other crime! its also the only crime where we seem to feel that its the victims fault, we put blame and shame on the victim and often accuse them of lying. its awful, rape is an awful thing to have happen to u and its so often not reported because the victims are afraid of the judgment they will reciece. eugh. rant over. |
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Shnard-dog Male, 30-39, Midwest US
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Friday, June 11, 2010 5:55:39 AM Wow, lots of blaming the victim happening in here. |
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Lolboy Male, 70 & Over, Africa
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Friday, June 11, 2010 3:36:05 AM She sounds like she's coming up with the story as she goes along. I call shenanigans. |
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weebazweebaz Male, 30-39, Europe
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Friday, June 11, 2010 2:51:19 AM I was like, and he was like, but I was like, but he like..... *head explodes* wtf is up with people??? ^^^^^ true |
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belunan Male, 30-39, Western US
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Thursday, June 10, 2010 11:38:35 PM If lame poo like this is all it takes to be accused of rape, single guys need to start carrying consensual sex agreement documents for chicks to sign before they even go into a room alone with them. |
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ace420 Male, 30-39, Eastern US
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Thursday, June 10, 2010 11:09:09 PM She doesn't even remotely sound or act upset. Sounds like she is making it up. I think it is a ploy to get money. |
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MrsPoods Female, 18-29, Eastern US
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Thursday, June 10, 2010 9:34:16 PM I was like, and he was like, but I was like, but he like..... *head explodes* |
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bowlinguy Male, 13-17, Canada
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Thursday, June 10, 2010 8:42:43 PM are we sure she wasnt at an adult entertainment establishment and he just thought she was the entertainment? |
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