 CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 14374 Posts
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Thursday, June 10, 2010 11:57:48 AM
rigby_321: It's called a surf rake, It easily cleans beaches of seaweed and other debris.
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 britt566
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
2313 Posts
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Thursday, June 10, 2010 11:49:59 AM
I actually had that idea in my head about two week ago. |
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 D3rAnG3d
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
1603 Posts
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Thursday, June 10, 2010 11:36:10 AM
Awesome. Now we can have a Jamaca sized oil spill covered in hay!!! |
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 rigby_321
Female, 18-29, Western US
445 Posts
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Thursday, June 10, 2010 11:28:18 AM
Wait ... How do we clean up all the oily hay? |
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 tomatz
Female, 18-29, Europe
15 Posts
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Thursday, June 10, 2010 11:27:08 AM
This method is years old... |
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Comet06
Female, 18-29, Canada
4 Posts
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Thursday, June 10, 2010 11:26:03 AM
I think the big question is (particularly if you're shooting this idea down) - can you come up with something better?
Agree with taylor_stone here. My grandfather was a hay farmer and it is readily available around the world, not including the different types of hay that are in season at different times of the year.
If this works, isn't it worth a chance? It's not like anything else they're doing is working.
Let's look at some facts. For every acre, if you cut the hay twice in a season, depending on the type of hay you can get 1-3 tonnes of hay. Keep in mind this is an approximated number... some will give more, some will give less. However, it is doable.
This is good for the farmers too, economically speaking. |
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 collinh
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
21 Posts
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Thursday, June 10, 2010 11:17:02 AM
"yes lets throw some more flammable material into the water with the oil. I can see this turning out very bad when one of his dumb hick workers throwing a lit cigarette overboard"
when's the last time you tried to light wet hay on fire? Sure, it would be coated in oil, but the oil by itself is already flammable... so adding hay won't do anything to increase the danger if a dumb hick tosses his lit cigarette overboard. |
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collinh
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
21 Posts
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Thursday, June 10, 2010 11:13:47 AM
@crabcakes
"Hay production in the United States exceeds 150 million tons per year."
http://tinyurl.com/dl6lz4
(sry URL was too long, IAB didn't want any single word longer than 40 characters)
so by your estimates: if you only need 5.8 million tons, then you're only asking for ~3% of the annual US hay production. I wouldn't consider that a major hurdle by any means, but perhaps that's just me. |
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 Rokaku
Male, 13-17, Asia
41 Posts
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Thursday, June 10, 2010 11:09:35 AM
You can use people's hair. Just get 100 million americans to shave their heads, and you get to solve your problem |
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 taylor_stone
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
2478 Posts
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Thursday, June 10, 2010 11:07:24 AM
"5.8 MILLION TONS of hay"
I'm pretty sure farms around the country can work up twice that amount in a mater of a few weeks. The farm I grew up on probably produced 10 or 12 tons in a season... Not counting how much we had to start with. Not to mention we could get it from all over the world... |
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 Naz14
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
801 Posts
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Thursday, June 10, 2010 11:05:06 AM
@crabcakes
its better than nothing |
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 Crabcakes
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
229 Posts
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Thursday, June 10, 2010 10:19:58 AM
"Does anyone have any idea how much hay that would take? A quarter pound to soak up a about a square foot and a half?"
Last estimate I saw was the spill covers an area of about 2,500 square mile, or ~70 BILLION square feet.
At a quarter-pound of hay per 1.5 square feet, that's ~5.8 MILLION TONS of hay.
Does it work? Yes.
Is it feasible?
Not drating likely. |
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xdumbxdude
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
18 Posts
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Thursday, June 10, 2010 10:16:19 AM
yes lets throw some more flammable material into the water with the oil. I can see this turning out very bad when one of his dumb hick workers throwing a lit cigarette overboard |
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 Jilana
Female, 13-17, Midwest US
252 Posts
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Thursday, June 10, 2010 10:04:39 AM
@jendrian why wouldn't we need lots and lots of metal spoons or perhaps one giant pair of blue overalls? |
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 jendrian
Male, 18-29, Canada
2356 Posts
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Thursday, June 10, 2010 9:57:06 AM
awesome!, now we just need a giant metal spoon and lots and lots of blue overalls |
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mcfudge
Male, 18-29, Southern US
539 Posts
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Thursday, June 10, 2010 9:44:30 AM
Does anyone have any idea how much hay that would take? A quarter pound to soak up a about a square foot and a half? |
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CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
14374 Posts
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Thursday, June 10, 2010 9:40:56 AM
jamesrs: Nationwide, hay stocks
have totaled 20.9 million tons so far this year. |
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 togoth
Male, 13-17, Europe
129 Posts
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Thursday, June 10, 2010 9:35:29 AM
i say burn it baby!! |
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 jamesrs
Male, 18-29, Europe
86 Posts
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Thursday, June 10, 2010 9:26:03 AM
this has been known for years! i was taught it in school 3 years ago but it wont help because theres to much oil and not enough hay |
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 rainbowfarts
Female, 18-29, Southern US
800 Posts
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Thursday, June 10, 2010 9:25:48 AM
Frankii, a lot of salons are already donating hair to oil clean-up, and also a girl I know recently cut off all her hair to donate it. I wouldn't recommend cutting your hair off though, like you said the salons have plenty to donate. |
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CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
14374 Posts
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Thursday, June 10, 2010 9:14:48 AM
bliznik: It's never been tried at all and there hasn't been a spill of this magnitude since Saddam Hussien and the 1st Gulf War (They didn't have straw there to even try it). |
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 madest
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
6407 Posts
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Thursday, June 10, 2010 9:07:22 AM
This would be beneficial in so many ways. Would be a giant boost to farmers. They could hire fisherman to distribute hay and hire others to clean up the washed up oily hay. Win win! But like meepmaker said; plugging the leak must come first. |
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bliznik
Male, 30-39, Western US
306 Posts
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Thursday, June 10, 2010 9:05:27 AM
They've studied this before, and it won't work in real-world conditions of this magnitude. |
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 Prejudiced
Female, 18-29, Australia
250 Posts
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Thursday, June 10, 2010 9:03:23 AM
"Good idea in theory but good luck
A) gathering enough straw and hay to cover the entire area and the subsea oil swirling around
and
B) scooping it all up again"
A) Straw would be more cost effective and is produced from the stubble of crops. Theirs so much of it around and its not a great animal feed (its mainly used to make particle board now anyway) so I can't see it being too hard to get.
B) Not hard to do. Use large nets and trawl sections, scooping the straw/oil out and leaving the water behind.
A similar technique was used here on a small spill. |
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weebazweebaz
Male, 30-39, Europe
76 Posts
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Thursday, June 10, 2010 9:00:55 AM
One hand full does a half cup of oil...how many hand fulls do you need for the, approximately 1,184,000,000 cups of oil?
2,368,000,000 i would have thought, assuming your figures are correct...they are just having a try at it...better that than nothing eh? |
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