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One Book Or Allota Books: That's The Question [Pic

Hits: 30660 | Rating: (2.7) | Category: Funny | Added by: TMLkicks89
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mikeacello
Male, 18-29, Western US
 112 Posts
Thursday, June 17, 2010 7:26:13 AM
ZING!

Phillei
Male, 18-29, Canada
 110 Posts
Monday, June 07, 2010 9:49:02 AM
lmao

meepmaker
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 6716 Posts
Monday, June 07, 2010 8:20:56 AM
I want a baby dino.

frenchroast
Male, 30-39, Canada
 399 Posts
Monday, June 07, 2010 1:49:02 AM
Truth is, most Christians haven't read the whole bible.

syke22
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 1137 Posts
Sunday, June 06, 2010 8:21:24 PM
Yes. Yes. Want this poster.

deathxtra
Male, 13-17, Western US
 2810 Posts
Sunday, June 06, 2010 5:59:53 PM
Put on your flame retardant suits everyone, we're walking into a flamewar..

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11630 Posts
Sunday, June 06, 2010 2:29:31 PM
OK, excuse my phrasing, but those were muslims I referred to.


How, given the difference in time? It would require Muslims to have travelled backwards in time to study in Greece and lay the foundations for that scholarship in Arabic lands.

wasn't that Edward Gibbon's argument in The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire? I recall my professor saying something along those lines,


I don't know. I haven't read it. Odd, considering how famous it is, but it's one of those books I intend to get around to reading and never do.

Brassbull
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 1608 Posts
Sunday, June 06, 2010 12:26:17 PM
The torch passed to the *arabic* world.


OK, excuse my phrasing, but those were muslims I referred to. Does "the embers were glowing until the previously mentioned individuals re-lit the torch" sound better to you?

Who has?


The graph can be interpreted as such, and wasn't that Edward Gibbon's argument in The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire? I recall my professor saying something along those lines, but I stopped reading it at page 49 when my mother passed away. Think I'll give it another go.

It could only hold with strong emperors and the only way to guarantee strong emperors was only implemented in the time of the five good emperors (96-180).


...by adopting the most qualified man for the job to be successor, which Marcus Aurelius ended by leaving his son as the only possible heir to the throne.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11630 Posts
Sunday, June 06, 2010 11:51:31 AM
And I don't think you can blame the fall of the Roman Empire on Christianity either.


Who has?

Christianity was a factor, but only a factor. The Roman empire was over-extended and not strong enough in the centre (i.e. Latium itself). It could only hold with strong emperors and the only way to guarantee strong emperors was only implemented in the time of the five good emperors (96-180).

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11630 Posts
Sunday, June 06, 2010 11:39:55 AM
And to continue being fair, the torch was passed to the Islamic world


No, it was not.

How could it have been? Islam didn't exist then. Your argument requires that time travel was commonplace in the 5th century, which is silly.

The torch passed to the *arabic* world. They'd been trading with Greece for centuries and scholarly Arabs went with the merchants (or were the merchants) to study in Greece because there was no better place to study. Some of them founded schools when they returned home, with maths and medicine generally being favoured for some reason.

This was well established before Islam existed. Islam didn't start it - it just didn't slow its progress down as much as Christianity did.

MattPrince
Male, 40-49, Europe
 2223 Posts
Sunday, June 06, 2010 10:08:02 AM
"Even science has the idea that all humans kindof come from an Adam and Eve."

Wow - Mytochondrial Eve had to wait 100,000 years for Y Chromosomal Adam to come along.

My wife doesn't like to wait 10 minutes...

MattPrince
Male, 40-49, Europe
 2223 Posts
Sunday, June 06, 2010 9:49:24 AM
"Also there's a lot of advanced books about creationism"

Nice oxymoron.

Baalthazaq
Male, 18-29, Asia
 4753 Posts
Sunday, June 06, 2010 7:02:38 AM
Secondly, as for the Quranic verse:

Even science has the idea that all humans kindof come from an Adam and Eve. That doesn't mean scientists currently believe they were insta-summoned with a level 2 Wizard spell.

The only argument you can make from the quote is that Islam suggests that if you go far back enough, you have a mated pair from which all current human life descended.

You are suggesting my parody in the first paragraph is supported by the verse you quoted. I find that unlikely.

gorgack2000
Male, 13-17, Europe
 4702 Posts
Sunday, June 06, 2010 6:57:11 AM
Origin of Species has been hailed as a very accessible book compared to other scientific works.

Also there's a lot of advanced books about creationism, just like there are for evolution. Works both ways.

Baalthazaq
Male, 18-29, Asia
 4753 Posts
Sunday, June 06, 2010 6:47:06 AM
Madrasas:
School. Any school. It's the Arabic word for school. Your school: A madrasa. My school: A madrasa.

Furthermore: My school: A madrasa in the middle east.
Furthermore still: My school: Taught evolution.

5Cat:
"But BAALTH didn't you previously argue that Christians and Muslims were the SAME and believed the same things and worshiped the same God?"

No, only the last bit, otherwise they'd be the same religion. YOU tried desperately to say that's what I was arguing because you wanted an easy target, unfortunately I was only making points you didn't have the capacity to refute.

Thus, you put words into my mouth. The only sad thing is you seemed to have actually convinced yourself that's what I was saying.

Finally: Actually read the links I posted, again, including the reasoning behind anti-evolution discussions.

r3tr0r0ck3r
Male, 18-29, Europe
 188 Posts
Sunday, June 06, 2010 5:49:57 AM
Excellent anti-creationist pic.

Samsquanch
Male, 30-39, Canada
 794 Posts
Sunday, June 06, 2010 5:31:03 AM
WTF is "allota"?

low40
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 22 Posts
Sunday, June 06, 2010 4:14:37 AM
Noamfer i think u might have hit home with that one ive used it many times.if humans did exist during that time we would all certainly perish

davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
 12085 Posts
Sunday, June 06, 2010 1:49:31 AM
Honestly, how many people who believe in creationism can even say they have sat down and read through the Bible? I'm guessing not too many.

When it comes to Creationists, it's not about not reading the Bible enough, it's about reading that and that alone. And burying one's head in the sand when it comes to thousands of years of scientific advancement that has happened since the Bible (which, lest we forget, was written, or at least sourced from, goat-herding tribesmen back in the Bronze Age).

Personally, I have no problem with people following a religion. Not my bag, but hey, whatever lifts your skirt. But when religion starts to encroach on the realm of science or human rights (think Creation Museum, ID proponents demending equal time in biology class, vetos on stem cell research, denial of gay rights, abortion clinics being bombed, the abhorrent treatment of women in some Islamic cultures, etc etc) then I'll be right here with my flame sword. Every time.

Winter_ICE_0
Male, 13-17, Western US
 975 Posts
Sunday, June 06, 2010 1:00:11 AM
Honestly, how many people who believe in creationism can even say they have sat down and read through the Bible? I'm guessing not too many.

Noamfer
Male, 13-17, Europe
 170 Posts
Saturday, June 05, 2010 11:46:04 PM
The caption should be:

"Because those dinosaurs would totally not kill us all"

Brassbull
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 1608 Posts
Saturday, June 05, 2010 8:59:12 PM
and I remember hearing of a muslim mathematician who did some innovative work after studying Archimedes but don't know the name. And I don't think you can blame the fall of the Roman Empire on Christianity either.

Brassbull
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 1608 Posts
Saturday, June 05, 2010 8:37:31 PM
Angilion: Agreed on all points. And to continue being fair, the torch was passed to the Islamic world, with guys like Al-Kindi who worked with light and heat, color and optics, and Al-Razi who distinguished smallpox from measles. Not to mention Muslim philosophers who studied over, built off of, the works of Aristotle. It's not really an accurate graph but I still thought it was funny.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11630 Posts
Saturday, June 05, 2010 8:00:49 PM
It's not *entirely* fair to blame Christianity for the loss of knowledge after the fall of the Roman empire. Christianity effectively preserved literacy in Britain, Ireland and most of Europe and as a result it preserved some Greek and Roman knowledge that would otherwise have been completely lost in those areas. It did suppress knowledge (e.g. Roger Bacon, who was a few centuries ahead of his time and might have changed history if the church hadn't suppressed his work and jailed him for thinking), but it's not totally to blame.

Also, Rome wasn't a clear advance over Greece in terms of knowledge other than in civil engineering. Rome was a much more pragmatic society and it effectively discouraged science and maths along with everything else that was called philosophy in those days. Even Roman medicine (which was surprisingly advanced) was effectively Greek.

davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
 12085 Posts
Saturday, June 05, 2010 7:46:05 PM
how is this anything other than plainly bashing religion? it's not even funny either.

To be fair, it's bashing Creationism... which as piiiiiiiiiiiiiink down there said, ain't the same thing.

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