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xCYBERDYNEx
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 4799 Posts
Monday, August 01, 2011 11:50:09 PM
Nope Angilion, I'm still hanging around, and you're still the biggest douchebag f*cking idiot on the internet, good day dumbass.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11357 Posts
Wednesday, June 09, 2010 3:08:14 PM
I don't know what a child or adult is, but you see no difference between a 30 year old and a 13 year old who are both "past puberty"?
This is the RIDICULOUS (arousing or deserving ricicule, I looked it up in the Dictionary :P) sort of arguement you're throwing at me.



You said there wasn't a difference between 5 and 15.

I didn't say there wasn't a difference between 13 and 30.

So no, it isn't the same.

Anyway, this thread is now old enough for the transient nature of IAB to have ensured that no-one else is reading it. I no longer need to defend myself in public, so the only reason to continue would be if I cared what you think.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 24979 Posts
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 6:25:38 PM
As for borders:
Consider polyamory. If a man (or woman for that matter) has 3 spouses, in say Iran where it's perfectly legal, are they perverts? In OUR society yes, but NOT theirs.
Are they immoral? Illegal? Same applies. By THEIR measure it's OK.

Now for the more important question of child sex. In a place where 12 is the age of concent (like Canada almost had) then is a 30 yo having sex with a 13 yo illegal? Immoral? A perversion?
I PERSONALLY WOULD SAY: YES YES YES
However the sad reality would be different, obviously it wouldn't be illegal in that place.
But I remind you that Canada has a law that says if one goes to another country and commit pedophilia, a Canadian faces arrest IN CANDADA which is something I wholey approve of!

So I hope this sorts a few things out, it is not my intention to flame, troll or otherwise p*ss you off, eh?

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 24979 Posts
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 6:14:51 PM
*sigh*
I don't know what a child or adult is, but you see no difference between a 30 year old and a 13 year old who are both "past puberty"?
This is the RIDICULOUS (arousing or deserving ricicule, I looked it up in the Dictionary :P) sort of arguement you're throwing at me.

I've already said that sex with a child should carry the death penalty (I believe I said 6-yo but I'm not about to look it up) what more do you want? Yet you repeat your nonsense, almost like you never even read it...

I understand that your opinions are not mine, and I thank God for THAT!

it means asking your girlfriend for ID!

Okie, I DO see the problem here, and I do apologise. I did NOT mean YOU (Angilion) I meant 'you' as in everyone. So yup, I can see how you'd read that badly (my bad!) and yup I am sorry I wasn't more clear. I certianly never intended that to be a personal attack, and understand your being upset by it. I know I'd be!

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11357 Posts
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 5:11:16 PM
Do you think that someone swaps between being a paedophile and not being a paedophile simply by crossing a border?

Sadly this is the case, I don't AGREE with it but you simply don't understand it.



It isn't the case and the lack of understanding is yours.

You don't understand what a paedophile is and therefore you don't understand why a paedophile is always a paedophile regardless of where they are.

You don't understand what a child is.

You don't understand what an adult is.

You don't understand that adolescence exists.

You don't understand what the law is, specifically that you don't understand what an age of majority is or that there are various legal distinctions between a minor and a person who has reached the age of majority.

You don't understand that a statement is not a question.

You don't understand that your opinion is not mine.

And to cap it all, you have a limited understa

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11357 Posts
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 5:05:36 PM
Do you think there is no difference between sex with someone who is biologically an adult (i.e. past puberty) and sex with someone who is biologically a child (i.e. has not yet started puberty)?

Here, Angilion, HERE is where you said it's OK to have sex with a 13 year old.



As everyone can see, it is not.

THERE was when I asked you about your opinion, based on your statement that there's no difference between sex with a 5 year old (definitely a child) and sex with a 15 year old (who might be an adult minor).

You're making the same "mistake" again - your opinion is not mine. My question says nothing about my opinion.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11357 Posts
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 5:02:21 PM
I never once accused you of anything. Quote me if I have or STFU.


Done - see the last two posts.

You've SAID things that are wrong


No, I haven't. You've made some things up and claimed they were my views. They were entirely from your imagination.

In fact I've asked if I've got it wrong, but you've chosen to bring insults and slander as the bulk of your arguement.


As I've shown below, you started off by accusing me of paedophilia.

So you're lying again.

I hate you?


Obviously. I would like to know why you did so right from the start, but it's not important.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11357 Posts
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 4:58:47 PM

Then you went back to the unquestioning question mark

So @Angilion, you're saying anyone who is "physically and adult" is OK?


and then dropped it again

AND the idea of "age of concent" really bothers you because it means asking your girlfriend for ID!


And now you're making untrue statements about what you've been doing. Which is all the more stupid of you because you've left the posts in which you did it. If you wanted to cover up what you've done, you should have deleted them.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11357 Posts
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 4:58:17 PM
You stated, amongst other things, that there's no difference between sex with a 5 year old and sex with a 15 year old. Not that both are or should be illegal, but that both are the same. That would mean that there's no difference between sex with a child and sex with an adult minor. I asked you if that was what you meant. Note that I *asked*:

Do you think there is no difference between sex with someone who is biologically an adult (i.e. past puberty) and sex with someone who is biologically a child (i.e. has not yet started puberty)?


You replied with your first libellous insult:

I'm shocked at you Angilion! YOU think it's OK to plug a 13 year-old bleeder?


And no, that question mark does not actually make it a question.

You went on to drop the question mark entirely, which was at least less dishonest of you:

I don't see why you'd even think a 13-yo is legal or moral.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 24979 Posts
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 10:47:07 AM
I never once accused you of anything. Quote me if I have or STFU.
You've SAID things that are wrong, but I never said or implied that YOU DO those things in any way shape or form.
Unlike yourself, who have stooped to the very thing you're so busy accusing me of. In fact I've asked if I've got it wrong, but you've chosen to bring insults and slander as the bulk of your arguement.
I hate you? Your projection is a real probelm here, just MHO.
OVer and OUt.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 24979 Posts
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 10:42:50 AM
Do you think there is no difference between sex with someone who is biologically an adult (i.e. past puberty) and sex with someone who is biologically a child (i.e. has not yet started puberty)?

Here, Angilion, HERE is where you said it's OK to have sex with a 13 year old. I know of 13-yo girls with children (and a 26 year olf Grandmother too!). YOU are saying there's a difference between a 13-yo pre-puberty and a 13-yo POST-puberty, NOT ME!
I don't CARE if they're past puberty. If the LAW says they haven't reached the Age Of Legal Concent For Sex then it's (duh!) NOT allowed!
Do you think that someone swaps between being a paedophile and not being a paedophile simply by crossing a border?

Sadly this is the case, I don't AGREE with it but you simply don't understand it.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11357 Posts
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 1:00:43 AM
So it seems (to me) you think I'm wrong for simply saying "underage=illegal" because I should say "the more underage it is=the more illegal it is". Well fair enough, it's just not that way in Canada.


No, you're wrong in pretty much everything you've written in this thread. I've already explained why, but you're either incapable of understanding or you're pretending to be.

But you're most wrong in your libel. Perhaps more relevantly, you're breaking the law. Both here and in Canada. Are you sure you want to continue with that?

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11357 Posts
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 12:57:39 AM
AND the idea of "age of concent" really bothers you because it means asking your girlfriend for ID! lolz!


You really are either very stupid or deliberately irritating. I'm not sure which.

Why don't you look for remedial English classes at your local college? That way, you might become able to understand simple English phrases such as "regardless of any and all evidence to the contrary". Evidence like "ID". Which is easily faked. You also appear to be assuming I'm the only person in the UK, which is bizarre.

You are so determined to make people think I'm a paedophile that it's making you look bad. Which you are. I don't care why you hate me, because I have no respect for you, but you are showing what scum you are with this libel.

Yes, libel. Get someone to explain that to you at your remedial English class.

I am curious though - why do you hate me so much that you're libelling me so badly?

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 24979 Posts
Monday, June 07, 2010 5:56:21 PM
Well, I said x-y-z (that's ZED not 'zeee' eh!) and you said 'what are you talking about' (to put it in a polite way) and I said x-y-z=this & that.
"...you are not the absolute dictator of English" well YES I AM! (and if you believe that one...)
So it seems (to me) you think I'm wrong for simply saying "underage=illegal" because I should say "the more underage it is=the more illegal it is". Well fair enough, it's just not that way in Canada.

AND the idea of "age of concent" really bothers you because it means asking your girlfriend for ID! lolz! Well meeting the parents is also a good way to figure out if she's old enough eh?

I'm glad we sorted some things out Angilion, I was worried you thought I was a dratter or something.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11357 Posts
Monday, June 07, 2010 2:09:06 AM
So @Angilion, you're saying anyone who is "physically and adult" is OK?


I've said nothing about it. You've just made some things up from your own lack of comprehension, and that's what I've been objecting to.

In fact, I mostly agree with UK law on the subject. Under 16 is illegal and the further under 16, the more illegal it is. The only thing I disagree with is the requirement to be magically aware of a person's true age regardless of any and all evidence to the contrary - I think that's an unreasonable requirement because magic isn't real.

I was explaining MY USE of those terms, since you don't seem to understand them.


Why should I understand (or more accurately, agree with) your redefinitions of words? They're not logical, they're not even internally consistent and you are not the absolute dictator of English.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 24979 Posts
Sunday, June 06, 2010 7:32:42 PM
So @Angilion, you're saying anyone who is "physically and adult" is OK? And what EXACTLY do you base that on?
The law bases it on biological AGE and yes it's different in different places, like most laws are eh? Smoking, driving a car and such are all based on age. You got a problem with that? idk

The law in Canada is: 16 is the age of concent for sex, all sorts. It WAS 14 until recently. I believe there's a 4-year 'buffer zone' whereby a 17-yo can date a 16-yo and not goto jail. Unlike many States in the USA.
SO if a 30-yo has sex with a 5 or 15 they're molesting children. Child molestation = pedoplilia, eh? YES there's a difference, doing it to a 5 should carry the death penalty IMO, but this is Canada.
I was explaining MY USE of those terms, since you don't seem to understand them. There's a law for the Age of Concent and you're either over the age (adult) or under (child) MY wording, k?

cahalla
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 967 Posts
Sunday, June 06, 2010 5:44:08 PM
oh dear.

whipsmart
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 669 Posts
Sunday, June 06, 2010 4:00:05 PM
Calm down everybody! It says teen-age, NOT teenage!

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11357 Posts
Sunday, June 06, 2010 3:21:32 PM
You're even wrong about the age of consent. So even if I ignore the facts that you're wrong about what paedophilia is, wrong about what an adult is, wrong about what the law says about how a person's age affects their legal status, and wrong about all those things in very fundamental ways...you're even wrong about what an age of consent is, because most legal systems have different ages of consent for different things...even if I ignore that and just consider the age of consent to sex, you're still wrong. The law still doesn't have only two statuses - it has several, depending on the ages of the people involved. Unlike you, the law makes a distinction between a 5 year old and a 15 year old, a distinction you vehemently state is impossible to make because there can only be two states - adult or child.

You're not just wrong, you're ridiculously wrong.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11357 Posts
Sunday, June 06, 2010 3:04:26 PM
idk what you add to that, it's cut & dried.


You could add some knowledge, because you're wrong in every respect:

i) Paedophilia has nothing to do with the law. It's about biology, not law. According to your argument, paedophilia could be ended completely simply by removing the age of consent, or made almost universal by making the age of consent, say, 30. That's ridiculous.

ii) The law does not use only the terms 'adult' and 'child'. Usually, it doesn't use those terms at all. Usually, it has far more than two statuses, reflecting the reality that people do not instantaneously change from children to adults. It's laughable that you talk about legal status and then so vehemently reject the idea of an age of majority - that is the legal status.

You don't know what the words you're using mean, you don't know your own legal system, you just simply don't know enough to talk meaningfully about the subject.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11357 Posts
Sunday, June 06, 2010 2:52:06 PM
So I honestly don't know what your point is.


No, you don't.

That didn't stop you accusing me of being a paedophile, solely on the basis of *your* ignorance and *your* inability to tell the difference between sex with a child and sex with an adult.

That says a great deal about what kind of person you are.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11357 Posts
Sunday, June 06, 2010 2:46:56 PM
I was never talking about biology, only LAW and MORALITY.


You were talking about biology. You just don't know what the words you're using actually mean.

Child = under the age of concent
Adult = over the age of concent
There is NO other status!



And you're still obviously and foolishly wrong even if you're intending to talk about law and morality and using the wrong words to do so.

You're now defining 'adult' and 'child' solely in terms of whatever age any given legal system assigns as the age at which consent to sex carries full legal weight.

You're wrong about that too, even if you ignore biology and morality and consider only law. Which is doubly wrong of you, because 'adult' isn't a legal term.

And you still aren't making a distinction between sex with a preschool child and sex with someone who is an adult but under the age of consent. That's disturbing.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 24979 Posts
Saturday, June 05, 2010 8:54:01 PM
It sickens me that some people/countries allow children to become sexual objects. Canada was amoung the worst for this with our "14 is legal" Liberal (party name) law.
And the NDP party wanted it lowered to 12! Imagine ME (I'm 46) 'dating' (by that I mean having sex with) one of the children in my daycare (there's 2 12+ children) legally? NOT! If I were to do such a thing I hope to be struck dead on the spot, "legality" notwithstanding.

YES the "AoC" is an arbitrary number, perhaps there's lots of 15 y-o who're ready for "it". But that is MOOT! There has to be a limit and currently (in Canada) that limit is 16 year of age!

So I honestly don't know what your point is. Is "adolescence" a legal definition in Europe? Does puberty "make it OK"? If I haven't covered it, let me know, eh?
I thank you in advance for your input.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 24979 Posts
Saturday, June 05, 2010 8:44:14 PM
I was never talking about biology, only LAW and MORALITY.
Child = under the age of concent
Adult = over the age of concent
There is NO other status!
We're not talking about "criminal responsibility" or "voting age" or anything like that. SEX! Intercorse! Buggery! That's the topic and there's only two types: legal and illegal. (entirely based on age in this case).
Law has nothing to do with reality! lolz! Neither does morality (it's subjective, eh?)
So when I say you're wrong for thinking there's 3 "stages" this is why: the LAW (in every country I know of) has an AGE OF CONCENT and THAT is the ONLY thing I'm talking about here.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 24979 Posts
Saturday, June 05, 2010 8:30:55 PM
Hey Angilion! Thanks for your replies, even if they argue with me :)
FYI I wasn't trolling, I SERIOUSLY didn't understand your point of view. For the record I think you're one of "the good people" and I was simply amazed at what I thought was your opinion on this topic (pedophilia, eh?)
So I hope I can clear this up without upsetting you. It's a Zen thing, eh? (all cats are Zen, lolz!)
completed puberty (i.e. is an adult)

This is where you are wrong. We are talking about (I'm tempted to use all caps here!) the age of concent@! NOT majority. It's a legal definition which varies according to location. There are ONLY TWO persons: child/adult. Period!
You can say "oh what about.." but that's MOOT! If JOHN LAW says 16 is legal, then by definition (my favorite term it seems) 15 is PEDOPHILIA!

idk what you add to that, it's cut & dried.
Furthermore if the AoC is 14, then 15 is A-OK. I don't like it but that's the way it

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