 keeperlink
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5 Posts
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Friday, May 14, 2010 12:12:25 PM
Awesome! Iteresting, how it feels inside the plane. Must be very loud |
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 Hitaki318
Female, 13-17, Southern US
194 Posts
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Thursday, May 13, 2010 8:50:29 AM
Lol, I like the way he says, "Whoa! D:"
He has a voice that reminds me of Kermit the Frog. |
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 acitcratna
Male, 18-29, Australia
12 Posts
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Wednesday, May 12, 2010 9:16:28 PM
such an awesome video, but yeah, they wouldn't put planes in the air if they couldnt handle weather |
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 laxdef36
Male, 18-29, Australia
172 Posts
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Monday, May 10, 2010 12:23:48 AM
I'm more confused as to why the the person filming only said woah... than the plane itself not going down. |
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 freddyferret
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
9907 Posts
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Tuesday, May 04, 2010 10:46:32 PM
Doesn't "Lost" start something like that? |
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 idiotfilter
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
3934 Posts
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Sunday, May 02, 2010 1:06:55 PM
more like stuck TWICE! |
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 octwilite
Female, 40-49, Eastern US
310 Posts
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Saturday, May 01, 2010 7:06:03 PM
The cloud looks like the Gieger(sp?) alien from the Alien and AVP movies. |
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 panzerlancer
Male, 18-29, Europe
131 Posts
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Saturday, May 01, 2010 8:49:14 AM
chaty chickie can i have your msn please :) |
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 chatychickie
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
31 Posts
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Friday, April 30, 2010 11:31:43 AM
haha dang lionhart, i didn't know farm kids played such mean pranks! |
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 sfcg
Male, 30-39, Western US
795 Posts
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Friday, April 30, 2010 7:42:42 AM
Thank god for proper conduction eh? |
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chewb
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
23 Posts
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Friday, April 30, 2010 7:24:52 AM
re: cage effect vs. 'insulation' from tires
It's actually common sense. It's just that people don't take a second to realize that, hey, the lightning is arcing across thousands of feet of air. It can sure the hell get around a 17-inch rubber hoop.
now, if you're rolling on 24"s...you probably good. go ahead and put the top down |
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 aikiman
Male, 40-49, Europe
255 Posts
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Friday, April 30, 2010 5:13:39 AM
As viruzzz says, it's got nothing to do with being grounded. The reason you're safe in a plane or some cars for that matter is because of the Faraday Cage effect. A Faraday cage is any enclosed hollow conducting shell and if struck by lightning,the electric charges on the shell will move around and rearrange themselves until the electric field inside the shell is zero. As long as you're not in electrical contact with the exterior shell and the outer shell is a continuous condutor, you'll be fine. Unfotunatley, if your car has a soft top or fibreglass body, your ass is toast..
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Viruzzz
Male, 13-17, Europe
11 Posts
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Friday, April 30, 2010 2:13:52 AM
That's not how electricity works
take a look at this www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n1pSHzdahc
It has the exact scenario you describe but with the exact opposite result
Electricity always takes the path of least resistance, it doesn't matter where you are on that path, if it passes through you, it's going to hurt.
The reason a plane is not affected is because they'll be built with that in mind, a huge lump of metal in the air is more conducting than air itself. the electricity takes a path through the outer shell and passes around everybody inside. Same thing in a car, it travels through the body and therefor around the place where you sit, the rubber tires have nothing to do with it, It'll just take the path through air that it has done for the past mile above the car. |
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 Lionhart2
Male, 40-49, Australia
8285 Posts
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Thursday, April 29, 2010 10:59:20 PM
It makes no difference whether the electricity passes through you or not, you only get shocked if you're the LAST step in the chain. Try the old farm-kids electric fence prank... 3 or 4 of you join hands and stand near an electric fence in gumboots, convince someone passing by to join the chain, and then guy number 1 grabs the electric fence. Only the end guy gets shocked, because he's the uninsulated one. The electricity passes harmlessly through the others without them feeling it. |
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Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
9676 Posts
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Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:58:43 PM
You are insulated from the ground by the tires, so you're somewhat better off than if you were standing on the ground, but not much.
Less than not much. The voltage is far too high. You'd need yards of rubber to be of any use as insulation.
But...carbon fibre is not completely nonconductive. A brief look seems to indicate that it conducts quite well. So I'm not convinced that through the inside of the car would be a path of less resistance than around the outside of the carbon fibre body. |
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Lionhart2
Male, 40-49, Australia
8285 Posts
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Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:40:29 PM
> And takes it!
Well of course it frakking takes it! Its a plane, it isn't GROUNDED so electricity can't harm it. Duuuh. |
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 pwecrow
Male, 30-39, Canada
40 Posts
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Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:14:42 PM
the Chuck Norris of planes...not even a massive bolt of lightning can faze it lol |
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 logandaninja
Male, 13-17, Western US
226 Posts
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Thursday, April 29, 2010 8:54:54 PM
it had a fire fart haha |
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 OldOllie
Male, 50-59, Midwest US
8945 Posts
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Thursday, April 29, 2010 8:36:51 PM
Would a car made of carbon fiber protect you against a lightning strike in the same way?
No. The protection comes from being inside a conductive shell that can divert the current around you. A nonconductive shell is basically like sitting outside in a plastic lawn chair with your feet up. You are insulated from the ground by the tires, so you're somewhat better off than if you were standing on the ground, but not much. I also wouldn't put much faith in a ragtop, even if it had a metal frame. |
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 xxPinkxx
Female, 18-29, Canada
3842 Posts
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Thursday, April 29, 2010 7:31:44 PM
Guess thats why they make you circle the airport until thunderstorms are over. Pain in the ass, but id rather not risk it.
its cool that the plane is ok, and amazing that we have the technology to prevent accidents happening. |
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Mardie
Female, 40-49, Midwest US
25 Posts
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Thursday, April 29, 2010 7:12:04 PM
As I recall, the E field within a conducting shell is constant. Basically, the electricity travels around the outside. The same holds true with a car. I believe it is Gauss's Law. |
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Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
9676 Posts
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Thursday, April 29, 2010 6:49:47 PM
Which reminds me of a question I never found the answer to. Maybe someone here will know.
Would a car made of carbon fibre protect you against a lightning strike in the same way?
What about a car with a fabric roof up? I'm thinking it would most likely strike the structure the roof attaches too and flow around the body of the car, but I'm not sure. |
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Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
9676 Posts
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Thursday, April 29, 2010 6:45:45 PM
Not surprising. Since the plane isn't grounded, the electricity passes right through.
The electricity is punching through as much as two miles of air with such power involved that it annihilates a column of air on the way down. The distance between the plane and the ground is a trifle to a lightning bolt, so the plane is grounded in that sense.
The strike will have flowed around the outside surface of the plane, following the path of least resistance. You're safe from lightning if you're inside a box of conductive material. Plane, train, car, whatever.
The main risk was to the plane's electronics, but not much even then. A car's electronics can survive the car being struck repeatedly and a plane's are better protected. |
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imghandi
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
7 Posts
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Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:56:05 PM
yeah the plane acts as a conductor and the electricity passes only on the surface so the people inside are perfectly ok. Same principle behind your car being the safest place in a lightning storm, the car acts like a cage and the electricity only passes on the surface. |
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bridog6996
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
563 Posts
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Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:16:53 PM
Not surprising. Since the plane isn't grounded, the electricity passes right through. |
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