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Is Your Girlfriend A Lesbian? [Pic]

Hits: 37431 | Rating: (1.9) | Category: Funny | Added by: fancylad
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OrangeCrow
Female, 18-29, Western US
 1208 Posts
Sunday, April 25, 2010 6:01:17 AM
0.o What's up with the massive posts?

... Oh it's Angillion.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11274 Posts
Saturday, April 24, 2010 9:36:42 AM
A) You don't need to explain transliteration (you pompous a**).


Your posts made it clear you didn't know what it was, so I did have to explain it.

but the conventional "Lesbos" still stands with scholars as the agreed upon pronunciation from the ancient, which is where the word lesbian was derived from.


Check when the word 'lesbian' was first used in English to refer to homosexuality between women.

It's not an ancient word. It's a fairly modern one.

GabrielJames
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 9 Posts
Saturday, April 24, 2010 6:14:59 AM
@Angilion:
A) You don't need to explain transliteration (you pompous a**).
B) "But I don't speak modern Greek, let alone the relevant version of ancient Greek. Do you?" Um, actually, I do know ancient Greek but as FinalReport said:
C) "...we have NO MEANS OF KNOWING how the Ancient Greeks pronounced their words." The word in ancient Greek is spelled with a beta, however, which leads me to reiterate that it is spelled Lesbos. Throughout the centuries Greek letters have changed so that in modern Greek beta now makes a "v" sound. When you transliterate into English NOW it is Lesvos, but the conventional "Lesbos" still stands with scholars as the agreed upon pronunciation from the ancient, which is where the word lesbian was derived from.
D) We'll just have to agree to disagree on this, considering that you've already stated that you DON'T KNOW THE LANGUAGE.

FinalReport
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 28 Posts
Friday, April 23, 2010 10:17:54 PM
Hi, I have studied Attic Greek (Ancient Greek), and I would like to add that we have NO MEANS OF KNOWING how the Ancient Greeks pronounced their words. There are no recordings to refer to. Therefore, we can only rely on the modern pronunciations. In my greek class, we would always pronounce the letter "beta" with a "b" sound. Beta is the letter in question here, and the greek would be pronounced (formally, and by my class at least) as "Lesbos". Also, and formally again, the "v" sound did not exist. The character "v" in the Greek alphabet instead was called "nu" and pronounced as "n".
BUT there is a sigma before the letter beta, and this might suggest a change the pronunciation of the "bee" sound to more of "ve" sound in conversation. This would then be something similar to a contraction, a colloquial change in the pronunciation just because it makes it easier to say. (try saying "ss&quo

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11274 Posts
Friday, April 23, 2010 7:24:17 PM
Regardless of whether or not that's what he's talking about, Latin had a "b" as well. Why would they spell it with a "v"?


Because it's the right transliteration in English. We're talking about English here, not Latin.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11274 Posts
Friday, April 23, 2010 7:14:09 PM
The name in the Greek alphabet didn't show up on posting, so I'll continue to belabour the point:

The island is Greek and so, unsurprisingly, its name is written using the Greek alphabet.

Writing it in any other alphabet is a transliteration that *should* replicate the pronunciation.

The correct transliteration in English is Lesvos.

Lesbos is a mistake.

The reason why homosexuality between women is named after Sappho (who was referred to by where she lived in lieu of a surname) is completely irrelevant to the fact that calling the island Lesbos is a mistake.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11274 Posts
Friday, April 23, 2010 7:10:15 PM
Angilion: "It should have been a 'v', not a 'b'."

There *was* no "v" in ancient Greek.



OK, so I do have to explain what transliteration is.

Different languages may use different alphabets. This is the case with Greek and most European languages, which use an alphabet derived from the Roman alphabet.

If you want to write a Greek name in one of those languages, you will have to change the alphabet the name is written in - that is transliteration. The aim in transliteration is to replicate the pronunciation in the target alphabet and language.

The island was called Lesbos.


As far as I know, the island was called Λέσβ ο ς. But I don't speak modern Greek, let alone the relevant version of ancient Greek. Do you?

Try here:

http://www.lesvos.com/

Lionhart2
Male, 40-49, Australia
 8285 Posts
Friday, April 23, 2010 5:16:02 PM
> Angilion
> I already explained the mistake, clearly, simply and in sufficient detail. Why didn't you read it? Why should I explain it again? You didn't read it the first time, so what reason do I have to think you'd read it the second time? Shall I copy and paste it half a dozen times? Would that be enough?

No you didn't; you spoke of the word 'lesbian' and didn't even mention the island, so I suggest YOU read the frakkin' question asked AND what YOU already wrote, instead of exploding like steam from hot coals because what you THINK you wrote, isn't what you actually wrote.

> I even gave the exact details of the mistake

Oh so you did... someone, somewhere, sometime, make some sort of mistake translating to indeterminate other languages, which some unknown person pointed out was a mistake, which everyone ignored.

Thanks for that, I feel almost as smart as you now.

GabrielJames
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 9 Posts
Friday, April 23, 2010 4:19:17 PM
@SomeShoes: Regardless of whether or not that's what he's talking about, Latin had a "b" as well. Why would they spell it with a "v"?

And I can read very well, thank you.

panth753
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 8843 Posts
Friday, April 23, 2010 4:15:36 PM
I'm not a lebo... yet. XD

SomeShoes
Male, 13-17, Canada
 2068 Posts
Friday, April 23, 2010 3:59:29 PM
@GabrielJames, he's explaining what it would be in the ROMAN derived alphabet

learn to read

GabrielJames
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 9 Posts
Friday, April 23, 2010 3:52:23 PM
Angilion: "It should have been a 'v', not a 'b'."

There *was* no "v" in ancient Greek. The island was called Lesbos.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11274 Posts
Friday, April 23, 2010 11:45:32 AM
As for the residents of the island, do you really think they all call themselves lesbians?

I've read that in common usage on the island itself, the island and the residents are named after the main city of the island. Maybe it's true, maybe it isn't. What is unlikely to be true is that they name themselves after a foreigner's mistake that has a completely different meaning.

The association only comes about because Sappho was famous enough to later be referred to by the place she was most associated with. Ancient Greeks didn't use family names in that way, so famous people were identified in some other manner. Helen of Troy, for example. Or Sappho of Lesvos.

It would be better to use her name as the basis for the word, i.e. sapphic, sapphist, sapphism. The association is properly with her, not the island she lived on. They are real words in English already.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11274 Posts
Friday, April 23, 2010 11:35:25 AM
The word comes from the Greek Island of Lesbos, famous for the female scholar and poet Sappho who wrote love poems to other women there. Are you saying then that the mistake was in the translation of the name of the island, AND the nomenclature of the residents thereof?


I already explained the mistake, clearly, simply and in sufficient detail. Why didn't you read it? Why should I explain it again? You didn't read it the first time, so what reason do I have to think you'd read it the second time? Shall I copy and paste it half a dozen times? Would that be enough?

Free clue: The island is not really called Lesbos.

THE NAME IS A MISTAKE INTRODUCED WHILE TRANSLITERATING BETWEEN DIFFERENT ALPHABETS.

I even gave the exact details of the mistake.

Is the problem my use of the word 'transliteration'? I realise it isn't a commonly used word, but you could easily look it up if you don't know what it means.

Earl_Grey
Female, 18-29, Canada
 131 Posts
Friday, April 23, 2010 4:19:14 AM
lesbians wear make up.

Lionhart2
Male, 40-49, Australia
 8285 Posts
Thursday, April 22, 2010 11:34:01 PM
> Angilion
> the word 'lesbian' is a mistake

The word comes from the Greek Island of Lesbos, famous for the female scholar and poet Sappho who wrote love poems to other women there. Are you saying then that the mistake was in the translation of the name of the island, AND the nomenclature of the residents thereof?

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11274 Posts
Thursday, April 22, 2010 11:16:31 PM
Off on a tangent...the word 'lesbian' is a mistake. Someone made an error when transliterating from Greek to the Roman-derived alphabet used for most other European languages. The mistake stuck, even after it was shown to be wrong.

It should have been a 'v', not a 'b'.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11274 Posts
Thursday, April 22, 2010 11:11:37 PM
I apologize if this sounds ignorant or insulting, but I think bisexuals have it right - they love people as *people* not just as men or as women.


I think you have it wrong. Bisexuals are simply people who can be sexually attracted to people of different sexes. That's it. It's not a socio-political position. It's not a choice of any kind.

I've been bi-curious since I was 16. Never had the courage to go against my very Christian family and date another woman, but I've met women who I would date.


That's something you'll regret. Not that there's anything special about homosexual sex or relationships, but spending your whole life suppressing part of yourself just to suit the irrational requirements of your family is going to cause you regrets later. It probably does already. Is it worth it? That's up to you.

jadedtortois
Female, 18-29, Canada
 783 Posts
Thursday, April 22, 2010 10:08:00 PM
Apparently I am a lesbian... Well I guess i'm open so fair enough. >.<

Harleq
Male, 18-29, Western US
 108 Posts
Thursday, April 22, 2010 9:55:26 PM
Hahahaha Bravo Lionhart. I think you were the only person who understood I was making a joke.

alphanoninc
Male, 70 & Over, S. America
 212 Posts
Thursday, April 22, 2010 9:33:50 PM
Lionhart's post translated just for you @Harleq:

"Dude (to chick): Hey sexy lady, feeling frisky?
Chick (to dude): F*** off!
Dude (to friend): F***ing lesbians man, they're everywhere."

Bremir
Male, 18-29, Europe
 393 Posts
Thursday, April 22, 2010 9:31:30 PM
Harleq - I understood every word of that.


Lionhart2
Male, 40-49, Australia
 8285 Posts
Thursday, April 22, 2010 9:31:11 PM
> Harleq
> Lionhart, you mind translating that to English?

Sorry Harleq.

Male Drinker (to random female in the same bar): Greetings and salutations, beautiful one of the opposite gender. Would you like to partake in sexual intercourse with me?
Female: I must, unfortunately, decline your generous invitation at this time.
Male Drinker (to male best friend)): Damnation, friend, every woman I speak to these days, I determine to be lesbian by virtue of the fact that she refuses my advances.

Harleq
Male, 18-29, Western US
 108 Posts
Thursday, April 22, 2010 8:44:09 PM
Lionhart, you mind translating that to English?

Lionhart2
Male, 40-49, Australia
 8285 Posts
Thursday, April 22, 2010 8:38:44 PM
The Australian Method of Lesbian Determination is much easier.

Bloke (to sheila): Oi good lookin', how 'bout a root?
Sheila (to bloke): Get stuffed!
Bloke (to mate): Bloody lesbians mate, they're everywhere.

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