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 Johanvb
Male, 40-49, Europe
 280 Posts
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Friday, April 23, 2010 7:59:03 PM
MCCain has an SS card?! Doesn't that statement count as a Godwin?
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 pd990
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
18 Posts
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Friday, April 23, 2010 12:34:37 PM
@auburnjunky:
It's drated up to call him a lobbyist when you're doing the exact same thing man. |
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 auburnjunky
Male, 30-39, Southern US
8695 Posts
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Friday, April 23, 2010 4:55:15 AM
Of course not crakrjak. It doesn't benefit his agenda.
Lobbyist. |
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 CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
14374 Posts
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Thursday, April 22, 2010 10:10:19 PM
madest: I posted a link with McCains BC, I guess you didn't even bother to click on it. |
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pd990
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
18 Posts
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Thursday, April 22, 2010 7:46:10 PM
The Honolulu Advertiser, Sunday Advertiser, August 13th, 1961:
http://tinyurl.com/6n3gqp
The Star Bulletin, Date doesn't appear on the picture:
http://tinyurl.com/lcbzqh
Don't tell me it's fake.
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auburnjunky
Male, 30-39, Southern US
8695 Posts
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Thursday, April 22, 2010 6:20:37 PM
@madest: I saw John McCain's BC, and his SS card, and his Driver's license. He provided all these.
Obama provided a copy of the first page of his birth certificate. |
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 madest
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
6407 Posts
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Thursday, April 22, 2010 5:58:20 PM
You saw Barack Obamas birth certificate but you didn't see McCains. |
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 Shadowkin
Male, 40-49, Western US
185 Posts
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Thursday, April 22, 2010 5:38:00 PM
Being Born in Panama when your parents are both US citizens still qualifies you. When one of your parents are NOT a US citizen and you are born off of US soil (military base, embassy, etc) you do not meet the criteria for President.
That is the rule. If you don't like the rule then change it. Don't break the rule just because it doesn't suit you. That makes you a criminal at worst, unethical at best. |
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pd990
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
18 Posts
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Thursday, April 22, 2010 3:49:15 PM
If we were to take things out of context, like we're doing with Obama's citizenship case, we can also claim that McCain isn't American because he was born in Panama, and disregard the fact that Panama was controlled by the US at that time.
And how does the incidence of birth on American soil makes a person more American than another? I'm pretty sure he's more American than others who claim they're American, and then serve the interest of corporation who are destroying this country (e.g.: Rush Limbaugh), or Glenn Beck, who is in love with polarizing the people and dividing this country. |
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pd990
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
18 Posts
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Thursday, April 22, 2010 3:40:39 PM
@ auburnjunky: Thank you.
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SInce Obama has a birth certificate, and it says he was born in Hawaii, I believe this proves people who speculate about his nationality wrong, and let's say I'm a fan of wasting my time on conspiracy theories, and I believe he was born in the farthest point away from the US, his mother is American, and this makes him a "natural born citizen."
According to article two, section one, paragraph five of the constitution: "No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution shall be eligible to the Office of President"
According to the Naturalization acts of 1790 and 1855, if you are: "...born outside of the borders or beyond the control of the United States,...,to a US citizen shall be considered as a natural born Citizen of the United States."
His mother is an American citizen, so that makes him an American citi |
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auburnjunky
Male, 30-39, Southern US
8695 Posts
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Thursday, April 22, 2010 2:01:57 PM
But pregnant women are in fact irrational and needlessly argumentative. They will admit this (once the pregnancy is over.) |
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 Shnard-dog
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
228 Posts
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Thursday, April 22, 2010 1:54:12 PM
"shnard-dog has obviously never had to live with, or interact with a pregnant woman."
Wrong and wrong. I am married to and lived with her the whole time she was pregnant. I was objecting to the way Brass was portraying pregnant women as being irrational and needlessly argumentative. That wasn't my experience at all. I find many of the people on I-A-B are the ones who are irrational and needlessly argumentative. |
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auburnjunky
Male, 30-39, Southern US
8695 Posts
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Thursday, April 22, 2010 1:46:25 PM
@pd990:
Someone who is born here. Durrrr. |
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auburnjunky
Male, 30-39, Southern US
8695 Posts
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Thursday, April 22, 2010 1:45:52 PM
shnard-dog has obviously never had to live with, or interact with a pregnant woman. |
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pd990
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
18 Posts
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Thursday, April 22, 2010 1:45:35 PM
@Lou-Saydus: Define American. |
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Shnard-dog
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
228 Posts
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Thursday, April 22, 2010 1:16:13 PM
"you are being emotional, irrational, and needlessly argumentative"
I think most people who would look back over our posts to one another would feel differently. As far as my earlier questions (Whose values exactly are you saying are "opposite" of our own? Are you saying that the U.S. is the only country that values freedom?), you're right, you answered those loud and clear.
Finally, I hope the women of I-A-B recognize what an a@@ you are for suggesting that pregnant women are "emotional, irrational, and needlessly argumentative." |
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Lou-Saydus
Male, 13-17, Western US
217 Posts
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Thursday, April 22, 2010 1:15:16 PM
it's been known for a long time that obama isn't an american, so what? It's not like we actually follow the laws in this country. |
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 Salted_Eggs
Male, 18-29, Western US
773 Posts
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Thursday, April 22, 2010 1:10:35 PM
Isn't she saying that her family history is from Kenya, not where they are born?
That's what I thought she meant anyway. |
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 Brassbull
Male, 30-39, Southern US
1608 Posts
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Thursday, April 22, 2010 1:08:05 PM
@shnard-dog
No, I wasn't going to call you an idiot...but I do think that. What I am implying is that you are being emotional, irrational, and needlessly argumentative. You have not paid attention to any of the points I have made and all of your reactions have been illogical and entirely based on assumptions you are making about me. Please do yourself a favor and stop talking. Or don't, I don't care, because I'm not listening to you anymore (everything you asked I have already covered) and I don't think anyone else is either. |
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auburnjunky
Male, 30-39, Southern US
8695 Posts
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Thursday, April 22, 2010 1:07:42 PM
@madest:
Wait, what? |
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 McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
10235 Posts
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Thursday, April 22, 2010 1:03:56 PM
@madest
If your so concerned over racism did you know Obama attended a rascist church also anti-semitic. |
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Shnard-dog
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
228 Posts
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Thursday, April 22, 2010 12:47:43 PM
Brass - So I'm guess you want me to say "what do you mean?" so you can come up with some "witty" joke or something about how you think I'm an idiot...blah,blah,blah..... and then call me a troll and tell me I got owned. Is that what you're hoping for? |
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Brassbull
Male, 30-39, Southern US
1608 Posts
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Thursday, April 22, 2010 12:14:16 PM
@Shnard-dog
Are you pregnant? |
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madest
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
6407 Posts
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Thursday, April 22, 2010 12:13:21 PM
Yeah that's a way look at it AJ. You're not racist you just hate the president for his skin color. |
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auburnjunky
Male, 30-39, Southern US
8695 Posts
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Thursday, April 22, 2010 11:56:40 AM
People who say we are racist for not supporting Obama are racist themselves. They pray for racism. They want controversy and strife. |
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