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Christian Soldiers Plot War Against US Government

Hits: 17307 | Rating: (2.4) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: Pooptart19
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Tominatrix
Male, 13-17, Europe
 150 Posts
Saturday, April 17, 2010 4:31:24 PM
the christian god is supposedly all powerful. why would he need people with guns?

Tay-Dor
Male, 40-49, Western US
 265 Posts
Saturday, April 17, 2010 4:19:03 PM
Man, that's dumb. Attacking cops won't do anything. They should have targeted democrat members of congress. ;)

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16673 Posts
Saturday, April 17, 2010 4:07:01 PM
This supposed plan... Yeah, seems no one else in the Hutaree knew about it.

Kristopher Sickles, 27, of Sandusky told The Associated Press in a telephone interview from jail in Sanilac County, Mich., about 75 miles north of Detroit, that he has "never hurt anyone or taken steps to do so." .. "As far as any specific plan to overthrow the government, I never heard such things," Sickles said. "There was off-color talk, but there was no set plan to overthrow this or take over that." .. "I'm not this sadistic person that they're presenting me to be," Sickles said. "I wouldn't just blindly follow someone or hurt another person."

Sounds like a 'Janet Reno' type arrest first and create charges later style ambush. Better hold off on judging these people folx.

vitaliy
Male, 18-29, Western US
 1671 Posts
Saturday, April 17, 2010 3:59:11 PM
" I think this story came out just to divert our attention from all the corrupt goings-on that this administration is doing."

Oh, I guess the media is only biased when it's not a fat guy yelling blatant lies about Obama.

ferdyfred
Male, 40-49, Europe
 9456 Posts
Saturday, April 17, 2010 2:58:20 PM
Rick_S - Yeah, I think Im with you there

Rick_S
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 3154 Posts
Saturday, April 17, 2010 2:16:05 PM
"So if the Taliban and Al-Quiada make all muslims terrorists, does this mean that all Christians are terrorists? "

Either that, or wackos.

xKrazyKoalax
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 208 Posts
Saturday, April 17, 2010 1:57:06 PM
So if the Taliban and Al-Quiada make all muslims terrorists, does this mean that all Christians are terrorists?

Fatninja01
Male, 18-29, Australia
 24476 Posts
Saturday, April 17, 2010 1:44:48 PM
wow, kust wow! silly people shouldnt congregate!

patticakes
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 459 Posts
Saturday, April 17, 2010 1:43:31 PM
Isn't it interesting that, while attention is drawn to this group which may or may not be guilty, there are hundreds of similar Islamic groups, such as the one at Islamburg, NY (www.jihadwatch.org) that don't ever get mentioned by the lame stream media? I think this story came out just to divert our attention from all the corrupt goings-on that this administration is doing.

kribbe
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2000 Posts
Saturday, April 17, 2010 1:10:18 PM
wow, i for once did not see this coming, not the jesus and anti-christ part, just the killing part

Brassbull
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 1608 Posts
Saturday, April 17, 2010 1:07:20 PM
But consider for a moment the psychological effects that would come along with such an act. I believe that they would be profound and lasting. Resigning a life to something that can be taken if the opposing force intrudes upon your land, comfort, or otherwise is what separates the animals from our own species, in my opinion.


No one is gonna shoot someone else for infringing on their comfort, not even in Texas. The psychological effects someone should just deal with like a man. That's where I think it's important to keep a connection with the rest of the animal kingdom. Yes, civilization gives great opportunity for being humane and compassionate, but lets never forget this is not a compassionate world. The further you separate yourself from the laws of nature (survival of the fittest) the worse off you're going to be when someone comes to challenge your own basic human rights.

screaminbean
Male, 13-17, Midwest US
 362 Posts
Saturday, April 17, 2010 12:53:37 PM
'Shooting someone in lawful self-defense does not make a person a criminal. '

But consider for a moment the psychological effects that would come along with such an act. I believe that they would be profound and lasting. Resigning a life to something that can be taken if the opposing force intrudes upon your land, comfort, or otherwise is what separates the animals from our own species, in my opinion.

I reside in the state of Minnesota, by the way.

goaliejerry
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 4028 Posts
Saturday, April 17, 2010 12:42:57 PM
Plus, its fun to shoot things with high-caliber weapons.

goaliejerry
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 4028 Posts
Saturday, April 17, 2010 12:41:52 PM
"I believe that the ability to bear arms will not help you a terrific amount if someone really intends to cause you harm."

If I stop them before they commit the harm, or while they are in the process of committing harm, then my gun will have helped. I know not everyone is comfortable with guns, and thats perfectly ok. But a gun-free world is an illusion, and bad people WILL use them, so I have no problem with good people using them to stop the bad.

goaliejerry
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 4028 Posts
Saturday, April 17, 2010 12:39:15 PM
"I believe that most, if not all conflicts can be resolved if we all use our big-boy words and do not simply sling our guns out at the opposing force."

The intruder in my home at night probably won't listen to reason, and the law protects me if I use deadly force in self-defense in my home (check your own state's laws). Shooting someone in lawful self-defense does not make a person a criminal.

We do fundamentally disagree - if someone intends to shoot me, but I can LAWFULLY shoot him before he kills me, then I believe my gun has helped me much. I wished I lived in an area free from violence, but I don't, and I won't lie down for criminal elements who seek to infringe upon my right to live.

screaminbean
Male, 13-17, Midwest US
 362 Posts
Saturday, April 17, 2010 12:37:23 PM
@goaliejerry, I apologize if I made an incorrect statement. Like I said, I have never touched a gun, nor do I necessarily intend to. I was just presenting my opinion. For your first statement, I believe that most, if not all conflicts can be resolved if we all use our big-boy words and do not simply sling our guns out at the opposing force. I believe that the ability to bear arms will not help you a terrific amount if someone really intends to cause you harm. If you're in such a situation, you really cannot do much. Either you get killed or become a criminal. Both routes are messy. I guess I just believe in the sanity of the average person too much for your tastes.

LazyMe484
Male, 18-29, Canada
 10503 Posts
Saturday, April 17, 2010 12:32:47 PM
so when these nutcases start shooting, we can all shoot back


And so you'll both die. I'm not usually this sadistic, but that makes sense.

goaliejerry
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 4028 Posts
Saturday, April 17, 2010 12:32:03 PM
Lisa's liberal view lost in the Supreme Court.

And the Supreme Court will issue a ruling this term PROBABLY incorporating the Second Amendment to the states, meaning in effect that the City of Chicago will no longer be able to ban pistol ownership within its city limits.

2nd Amendment is interesting. Liberals LOVE individual rights - freedom of (and from) religion, freedom of press, civil rights, homosexual rights, voting rights, etc. In EACH CASE, liberals want the government OUT - Conservatives tend to want government IN (more public religion such as in the pledge of alligence, more intrusion into the bedroom to stop gays from screwing and unmarried people from having birth control, etc.)

But only with the 2nd Amendment is the role reversed - Liberals WANT government to ban weapons, conservatives want government off of their guns.

I think you can be a liberal lover of individual rights and accept the 2nd amendment as one of many.

goaliejerry
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 4028 Posts
Saturday, April 17, 2010 12:31:26 PM
"lol, gee, a flame war."

Its not a flame war if its reasoned discussion.

Brassbull
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 1608 Posts
Saturday, April 17, 2010 12:29:40 PM
lol, gee, a flame war. who could have seen that coming?

trudenter
Male, 18-29, Canada
 70 Posts
Saturday, April 17, 2010 12:24:19 PM
"There is no type of recreational shooting, hunting, or otherwise that you can do with an automatic or a semiautomatic."
Umm Recreational shooting? I dunno im Canadian and the only time you can use automatic weapons is at a fire range. We can use some semiautomatic rifles while hunting also, i imagine that in some states you can too. And to use the simpsons, the 2nd amendment is dated and not really relevant to todays standards. I really think that some things need to be changed down there.

goaliejerry
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 4028 Posts
Saturday, April 17, 2010 12:17:26 PM
(cont.) an INDIVIDUAL right to keep and bear arms of the type commonly in use by militia at the time of the founding. That includes rifles, pistols, and shotguns, but draws the line at automatic weapons, sawed-off shotguns, etc. Not to mention government can place reasonable restrictions on firearms, like requiring a permit to carry a concealed weapon, or banning concealed weapons altogether.

goaliejerry
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 4028 Posts
Saturday, April 17, 2010 12:15:02 PM
"And this is why EVERYBODY should be allowed to own automatic weapons -- so when these nutcases start shooting, we can all shoot back."

That is exactly why I love my guns.

"I wonder if we got the whole story...I just can't trust corporate news anymore."

You can find PDFs of the criminal complaint online.


"There is no type of recreational shooting, hunting, or otherwise that you can do with an automatic or a semiautomatic. . . . But there is nothing you can do with automatics, semiautomatics, or handguns that doesn't, in the end, involve hurting someone else."

But what if that someone else first intends to hurt me? You're just going to let them hurt you?

And your first sentence is simply false, and I'm not sure if you understand the distinction between automatic and semiautomatic. I'm OK with bans on Automatic weapons, RPGs, grenades, private tanks and missiles, etc. But the 2nd Amendment protects

screaminbean
Male, 13-17, Midwest US
 362 Posts
Saturday, April 17, 2010 12:13:43 PM
@comuser59, point taken. Next time I'm at a hillbilly tree felling, I'll remember that.

duffytoler
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 5220 Posts
Saturday, April 17, 2010 12:13:08 PM
Underneath it all, religious people are always control freaks. Don't kid yourself - it doesn't matter what country or what religion - if you think differently from them, they want to kill you.

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