 thecupholder
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 105 Posts
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Monday, August 23, 2010 8:40:53 PM
Think the Mongolians were here first,sweetheart.
I hate that they teach high school children that "America" was discovered by some backwards-ass European when the Mongolians traveled here and inhabited the land. Its not like he was all for doing it for England..hell he was doing it for Queen Isabella of freaking SPAIN! And he actually thought it was an effing Asian country.
And he wasn't the first to sail here, it was the vikings, you drattard. |
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 cornflakegrl
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
205 Posts
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Friday, August 06, 2010 12:04:43 AM
"And the America's were settled by colonists from all over Europe before, during and after the founding of any of the countries here"
Um I believe that Italians discovered Northern America. Christopher Columbus was Italian. |
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 Bobness
Male, 13-17, Western US
39 Posts
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Thursday, May 27, 2010 11:41:53 PM
The civil war didn't happen to free the slaves; the war happened because the south wanted to break away from the union (amongst other things), because the north was helping the slaves escape and wouldn't give them back (there was however "bounty-hunters" that were hired by slave owners to go to the north and kidnap black people; it really didn't matter if the black person was free or not). The north freed the slaves after the war because they knew it was the best thing to do. Abraham Lincoln never mentioned anything about freeing the slaves because he didn't want to lose the votes of the south.
So to those that agree with Ashley:
Pay attention during history class!
:D
Slavery is dumb, anyway. |
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 elricroy13
Male, 18-29, Asia
12 Posts
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Sunday, April 18, 2010 4:07:38 AM
lol |
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 CmdrBittles
Female, 18-29, Canada
1182 Posts
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Sunday, April 11, 2010 9:15:47 PM
ROFL. |
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 idiotfilter
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
3934 Posts
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Saturday, April 10, 2010 1:27:50 PM
btw...nicole is a tard...enjoy welfa-...enjoy being stupid.... |
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idiotfilter
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
3934 Posts
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Saturday, April 10, 2010 1:27:09 PM
lol...davy...i thought ol' skeez was funny... |
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 davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
11676 Posts
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Thursday, April 08, 2010 10:36:06 PM
vv Southpark reference. Gotta let that one go... |
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 Skeezer1991
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
725 Posts
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Thursday, April 08, 2010 9:58:52 PM
Stupid naggers.  |
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 howlingwolf
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
1359 Posts
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Thursday, April 08, 2010 7:53:24 PM
I'm not going to touch this. People have already mentioned that the Civil War didn't start directly because of slavery, people have already racially insulted both of them, and people have just generally gone overboard. Thus, I will now leave this post. |
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 SmilinSam
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
3603 Posts
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Thursday, April 08, 2010 6:49:59 PM
and then i saw how long all of your comments were and i didn't want to see them anymore. |
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Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
9533 Posts
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Thursday, April 08, 2010 5:17:22 PM
To be accurate, the first 690 years (1215-1905) of voting reform in England (and UK after 1707) are completely ignored. But the really important period of time for voting reform started in ~1800 and it's all completely ignored prior to 1905.
To give you some idea...the UK was on the verge of revolution in 1832. Two governments collapsed, the country had no government at all for a week, armed revolution was being openly advocated, mass rioting was going on and it was only halted by the king blatantly abusing his power in order to rig a key vote in Parliament, which in itself was another constitutional crisis. There was shouting, screaming, weeping, cursing, blaspheming chaos in Parliament. The British parliament in 1832, when it was even more formally well-mannered than today. It was a time of utter mayhem and monumental change...and it's been completely wiped from history classes. |
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Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
9533 Posts
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Thursday, April 08, 2010 5:08:05 PM
Do other countries teach their kids things that are just flat out wrong like that?
I'd be very surprised if they didn't. I know that a false history of voting reform is taught in the UK. It's the usual thing - people with an agenda practice historical revisionism to suit that agenda and any of them with enough power can get it spread. So the first 100 years of it are completely ignored and the last 10-15 years of it are grossly misrepresented.
An inaccurate image of the middle ages is also common, though I don't know if that's taught at schools at all. It's more a pervasive idea from various sources, mostly stemming from Victorian historical revisionism that was mostly aimed at showing how much more civilised their time was in comparison with the times before it. So we have an image of filthy, utterly downtrodden peasants, women totally without legal rights or social status, bizarre torture at the drop of a hat...none of which is true. |
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 sbuninja
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
166 Posts
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Thursday, April 08, 2010 4:57:11 PM
I am quite pleased that Nicole is my job competition. |
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Tmortens
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
23 Posts
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Thursday, April 08, 2010 4:41:55 PM
@Angilion: I don't expect our Civil War to be mentioned there, I just mean revisionist history in general. We're taught that the war was about ending slavery and Lincoln was a great emancipator, but he didn't care in the least bit about freeing slaves, and wanted to kick them out post-war. Do other countries teach their kids things that are just flat out wrong like that? |
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Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
9533 Posts
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Thursday, April 08, 2010 4:11:07 PM
Tmortens: In the UK, the American civil war is barely mentioned, if it's mentioned at all. I doubt if most people here even know it happened.
Mind you, the English civil war is barely known about here either. Most people are pretty ignorant of history in general. If I recall correctly, my history classes at school started with the industrial revolution. |
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Tmortens
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
23 Posts
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Thursday, April 08, 2010 4:05:33 PM
What's worse to me is the response that the war was to free slaves, and that that is the generally accepted answer. That revisionist history is taught as fact in schools is irritating, and it's rampant in the U.S. How about other democratic countries? Anyone from Canada, France, or Germany want to chime in? |
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 shalantas
Male, 18-29, Western US
426 Posts
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Thursday, April 08, 2010 3:53:13 PM
can i get a face palm please? |
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 snukatoof
Male, 18-29, Western US
58 Posts
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Thursday, April 08, 2010 3:48:30 PM
Well.... she was right about not having to study it...
She wouldn't have to study anything! |
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 Loveabye
Female, 18-29, Western US
164 Posts
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Thursday, April 08, 2010 3:15:10 PM
I've lost all hope. |
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 ElDavo
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
2168 Posts
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Thursday, April 08, 2010 2:13:10 PM
Here's another point for IAB to consider:
What if she was just making a stupid joke, and she's not all that ignorant? Maybe Nicole doesn't like studying the Civil War, so she like "haha, I wish the Civil War NEVER HAPPENED. :D"
I mean, that makes her ignorant for not wanting to know history, but at least it wouldn't make her retarded... |
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 quaintness
Male, 13-17, Southern US
1074 Posts
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Thursday, April 08, 2010 2:12:22 PM
"I love the school system." The very same school system which ensures the internet is populated by people who can't construct a sentence... |
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ElDavo
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
2168 Posts
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Thursday, April 08, 2010 2:04:03 PM
GJ: Why, I was just giving you another history to read. |
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 Chaim
Male, 30-39, Southern US
167 Posts
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Thursday, April 08, 2010 2:00:32 PM
And if it had never happened she would'nt have to study at all. |
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 goaliejerry
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
4004 Posts
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Thursday, April 08, 2010 1:58:28 PM
"GJ: It doesn't change much in terms of meaning, you clearly still get what I meant to say."
Yes, but I'm not going to get serious and worked up over this stupid topic. The Civil War involved slavery. To what extent? I'll rely on the multiple civil war histories I've read to answer that. |
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