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Kid Forgets Lunch At Home, Mom Teaches Him Lesson

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alchemist18
Female, 13-17, Eastern US
 356 Posts
Tuesday, March 02, 2010 3:44:06 PM
stupid mom. She needs a smack.

McDuff73
Male, 30-39, Europe
 656 Posts
Saturday, February 27, 2010 3:30:36 PM
Hey bumbleBB thanks for the apology yes we clearly differ on some aspects of what constitutes care.

NanGoneBanan
Female, 18-29, Canada
 127 Posts
Thursday, February 25, 2010 8:51:39 PM
I think Nikki in the comments section said it perfectly.

"This mother clearly has an issue with control. Her son made a mistake. Withholding food as punishment is abuse. I absolutely do not agree with her at all. I believe it is the schools responsibility to take care of a child while they are in school. I also think, if she wants to control her child as much as this she best pull him out of public school. Can you imagine how he felt? He is in 4th grade? How can a 4th grader be expected to be perfect all of the time? How can anyone be expected to be perfect all of the time? Why not praise him for the other 256 days he REMEMBERED his lunch as opposed to punishing him for the 1 day he forgot"


bumbleBB
Female, 18-29, Canada
 1116 Posts
Thursday, February 25, 2010 4:41:47 PM
Sherbertfizz, I have to agree that this generations parents are far to easy on them , but more in the "you're so perfect, you are so great, you really don't have to try at anything" sort of way. That's why our lazy spoiled asses are having jobs snatched out from under us by foreign workers. However, most people are missing my point. It was not that this particular child was in danger, but rather that the school acted responsibly. The mother is nut.

Mcduff, I'm sorry for the rude things I said earlier. I don't think you're uneducated or naive, we just have a difference of opinion about the logistics of this situation. I respect that you do tough work, and that you have to be nice to these awful people. Luckily for most people they don't see what we do everyday.

So again I apologize.

OH, and Sherbertfizz, your arguments are hereby negated by your lying. 18-29....tsk tsk. The youth these days.


dontcare91
Male, 13-17, Western US
 65 Posts
Thursday, February 25, 2010 4:37:48 PM
Kid deserves that. That happens to me sometimes so its not a big deal. People are too defensive over problems that aren't there's.

SherbertFizz
Female, 18-29, Europe
 279 Posts
Thursday, February 25, 2010 3:24:21 PM
I don't see what the big deal is, the child was NOT going to starve, he had a good breakfast and would be eating as soon as he got home from school. This is what's wrong with kids today, their parents can't say boo, then when the kid is all grown up and has no respect, everyone blames the parents. For the record I'm 17 so I'm hardly old and for the 'older' ways of 'teaching' a child. But learning from people my age, being soft with your kid is getting you no where and in the long run you are doing WAAYYYY more damage!

dragonshadoz
Female, 18-29, Canada
 16276 Posts
Thursday, February 25, 2010 3:02:44 PM
F-cking Florida...

McDuff73
Male, 30-39, Europe
 656 Posts
Thursday, February 25, 2010 2:58:45 PM
The fact the kid ditched his lunches for 6 months the previous year I assume without the school knowing or taking action then getting all het up when the mum asks for support for her attempt to teach the child values is clearly an indication that they dont really give a flying monkeys chunkeys about the kid and are indeed ONLY worried about being sued.
That said I dont think it was the best idea in the world to rely on the school to assist in this and it certainly want a good idea to go to the press about it either.
Believe me I know abusers arent rare I've had to be nice to the bastards for the sake of the child in my care when all I wanted to do was inflict violence on them.
And no its not acceptable that innocents get caught up in a general trolling each case should be individually assessed on its own merits.

McDuff73
Male, 30-39, Europe
 656 Posts
Thursday, February 25, 2010 2:53:39 PM
All you need to know about my work is that I work with the most damaged children in the care system in the UK and have done so for more than a decade thats all I need to say we dont need to discuss further my 'qualifications' to be able to discuss this matter.
Next the mother did not withold food from the child the child forgot his lunch and the mum decided to use that as is common and an effective tool to teach the child a valuable lesson he wasnt starved or neglected. I might add as far as I know in my reading of the childrens act over here its not illegal to withold a meal, neglect or abuse is defined as 'actions by a person leading to serious harm of a child' including not giving enough food which is subjective, the kid had had breakfast and would have been fed on return from school there is no reason so far to doubt that.
So nothing the mother has done has been illegal or wrong so far....

bumbleBB
Female, 18-29, Canada
 1116 Posts
Thursday, February 25, 2010 2:20:53 PM
Like I said, withholding basic needs is not an effective form of teaching, so she was wrong from the get go. Liability has everything to do with it. This in no way shows that the school is more concerned with not being sued. If it's ineffective to withhold a meal, illegal to do so extensively, and the school has no way to verify the extent, then they did everything right.
As a senior residential care worker you must live in paradise, because I have seen some incredibily dumbfounding and horrifying behaviours from abusers both in assisting my sister with foster care, and working in hospitals. Beyond my own experiences I've heard even more shocking and incredible thing from my dad and grandparents in their police work. The worst thing is that these people aren't as rare as you seem to believe. Surely there are good parents who get hurt by the suspicion, but I would gladly hurt the occasional parents feelings for the greater good of many children.

McDuff73
Male, 30-39, Europe
 656 Posts
Thursday, February 25, 2010 2:14:00 PM
Actually I have been a senior residential care worker for the last 12 years working with children in the care system that have been exposed to the worst abuses or neglect so try again Bumbler.
The Liability of the school has no bearing on how a parent raises their child except that the ambulance chasing lawyers have made it near impossible to be a proper parent because external carers are more concerned with being sued than caring for and raising a child.

bumbleBB
Female, 18-29, Canada
 1116 Posts
Thursday, February 25, 2010 2:13:09 PM
The reason to get upset is when you start accusing the school of doing something wrong. Every child welfare organization in Canada, the US, and the UK agree that withholding basic needs is not an effective form of teaching. Denying that child abusers can be cunning and do surprising things is something to be upset over, because it contributes to ignorance that let's kids slip through the cracks. You're right this is a silly issue in this case, but this mother is wrong, and anyone arguing that school did something wrong is too. Whatever, I can't teach stupid and certainly can't do it over the internet so Mcduff can sit on his throne.

malinschen
Female, 18-29, Europe
 448 Posts
Thursday, February 25, 2010 2:06:41 PM
The boy would have been hungry for a few hours, one single day. He woulnt have starved, theres no harm to his health....

Of course you should provide your kids food, but she is. She'd planned to give him food when he came home. There's no reason for getting upset over this.


bumbleBB
Female, 18-29, Canada
 1116 Posts
Thursday, February 25, 2010 1:41:00 PM
McDuff Shut the hell up already. No idea about abuse and neglect and the incredible things some parents do to their kids!?!?! Talk to me after you have looked after kids who have been through the foster system. Talk to me after your employed in an environment that sees the worst of manipulators and abusers. I've heard of parents doing all sorts of bizarre things. Not all abusers are lazy and stupid. Those are the least threatening. The smart, attention seeking, motivated, hateful abusers are the really scary ones. SHUT UP!!! you clearly don't understand liability and should go have a ho-down with this mom all over the 6 o'clock news while the rest of us laugh at your ignorance.

McDuff73
Male, 30-39, Europe
 656 Posts
Thursday, February 25, 2010 1:15:06 PM
'Was the mum wrong' hell no, clearly cares about her child enough to try to instill values and principles more parents should take note!
'Was the school wrong' yes they were, according to the information provided by the mother for which we have no reason to doubt the child was ditching lunches for a long period of time 6 months I believe the previous year where the hell was this caring school then!? they clearly dont sit the kids down and watch them like hawks so how can they tell if all the kids are getting lunch!?
The mother was quite clearly trying to teach the child a lesson and the very least she should be able to expect is for the school to support her care it clearly wasnt an abuse and just so people are aware abusers dont tend to e-mail school to tell the school not to feed their child for one lunchtime and anyone that thinks that has absolutely no idea about neglect and abuse.

Oystah
Female, 40-49, Eastern US
 3866 Posts
Thursday, February 25, 2010 12:52:56 PM
Stupid mom with her stupid control freak lunch rules. WTF?

bumbleBB
Female, 18-29, Canada
 1116 Posts
Thursday, February 25, 2010 12:41:42 PM
Punishment usually doesn't work in the long run. This is especially true when the behaviour being corrected is unintentional as in forgetting. The extremes of the lesson aren't really the issue here. It's the extremes of the attitudes and lack of understanding. Was the school wrong. No. Was the child in danger, probably not, but like I said, the school has no way to confirm that he would have been fed.

Let's suppose for a minute that this mother is lieing (for arguments sake). Let's say she is really punishing the kid for wetting his bed. She decided that he shouldn't eat for an entire day. She calls the school and makes a story about forgetting his lunch and teaching responsibility, because the school would never agree to starve a child for a whole day, but might withhold a lunch. So later on a child abuse investigation comes up and it's discovered that this woman regularly starves her child as punishment, and the school is implicated as an accessory to abuse. totally possible.


McDuff73
Male, 30-39, Europe
 656 Posts
Thursday, February 25, 2010 12:33:28 PM
She did feed him he had breakfast and he was having food when he got back from school.
Why would she make him suffer some sort of unrelated punishment when she was trying to teach him the value of cause and effect!? taking something away from him completely unrelated would teach him nothing.

DJDoubleb
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 381 Posts
Thursday, February 25, 2010 11:30:20 AM
Yaa to the Mom wanting to teach life lessons to her son.

Booo to the Mom for her methods.Withhold a video game, fun activity, or make him pack the lunches for all four kids the next day, but feed him.


bumbleBB
Female, 18-29, Canada
 1116 Posts
Thursday, February 25, 2010 10:39:22 AM
positive reinforcement works better and has better long terms success than punishment. No, she is a psycho because she thought the school, who cared enough to ensure her child had the one meal they are required to ensure he receives, had violated her rights so much that she had to approach the news about it.

bumbleBB
Female, 18-29, Canada
 1116 Posts
Thursday, February 25, 2010 10:36:44 AM
Those saying that "when i forget my lunch at work i go out and buy one". What would you do if your boss said you're not allowed to leave? Before you say that's stupid, realize that there's plenty of people that aren't allowed to leave the job-site and i'm one of them. If i forget my lunch it's too bad, my wife doesn't make and pack it for me.

First you chose whatever profession you have that has this rule. Most people have jobs with designated breaks where they are allowed to leave.

Second, you are an adult. You are responsible for your own life. as a 4th grader, the mother is responsible for him.

Thirdly, again, you are an adult. You are not growing anymore this child is. The school would have no way to verify that just because this woman said she would feed him that she actually would.

Fourth, she's not a psycho because she is a control freak, with difficulty understanding what an important lesson is when dealing with defiance, and that positive reinforcement wor


Hansbo
Male, 18-29, Europe
 903 Posts
Thursday, February 25, 2010 9:58:27 AM
Aw come on, of course the mother wasn't a psych case and of course the school has every right to give a free lunch to a child. Why is this even an issue? If you want to raise your child you can do it at home (or ask the school and accept a refusal). Where I'm from we get free lunch in school. That is nice!

cman7721
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 617 Posts
Thursday, February 25, 2010 9:23:09 AM
i agree with mom

panth753
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 8843 Posts
Thursday, February 25, 2010 7:48:52 AM
I was (and still am) prone to forgetting almost anything and everything. In school, it was either the money or the lunchbox (believe me when I say my mom spent a lot of money buying new lunchboxes.). Yes, my mom would be mad, but not that mad.

K3vin
Male, 18-29, Canada
 487 Posts
Thursday, February 25, 2010 7:45:18 AM
oh wow. How many of you that think this woman is a bitch/psycho actually have kids? I'm going to wager a guess that near none of you do. Please keep it that way.

You either didn't bother or don't care that the mother continued on to say that earlier her son would throw out his lunches and not eat..This was not new to him. Him not having a lunch wasn't a punitive measure, it was a lesson... If you don't bring a lunch, you don't have anything to eat. That's what we call being responsible for yourself.

Those saying that "when i forget my lunch at work i go out and buy one". What would you do if your boss said you're not allowed to leave? Before you say that's stupid, realize that there's plenty of people that aren't allowed to leave the job-site and i'm one of them. If i forget my lunch it's too bad, my wife doesn't make and pack it for me.


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