 StarDagger
Male, 40-49, Western US
 1195 Posts
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Sunday, February 14, 2010 5:11:08 PM
Xianity is a death cult, it is predicated on death, the idea that we are flawed and finally that something has to be done about it.Whatever goodness their prophet (if he even existed) spoke has been wiped away by over 2000 years of unremitting ignorance, repression and evil. THAT "is what's with all the any-Xian posts lately". Some people are awake to this fact and post their disgust here. |
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 bumbleBB
Female, 18-29, Canada
1115 Posts
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Sunday, February 14, 2010 5:10:32 PM
"It doesn't change the fact that evolution is still just a theory...requiring belief without 100% certainty, just as Christianity is a religion...requiring belief without 100% certainty."Look I don't want to argue semantics with you because you clearly are not understanding me. My point is that the degree of evidence is totally different. Say I have a box of Smarties and they go missing. The only evidence is a blue hand print. You happen to believe that there is blue ink leaking God and that he has done it. I don't and see a bucket of blue paint by the front door, with drip marks all over. I draw the conclusion someone with blue paint their hands probably did it. My argument has more weight. Nontheless. This is a bullpoo argument because it has nothing to do with anything. Do you see how easy it is to make confusing seemingly logical arguments? I've even confused myself. |
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 Mornaf
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
821 Posts
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Sunday, February 14, 2010 5:07:51 PM
requiring belief without 100% certainty, just as Christianity is a religion...requiring belief without 100% certainty
But then you go and demand we find irrefutable proof of our not 100% certain things. I submit to you..., Find proof the biblical god exists.
and it better be irrefutable.
also, the bible is just a book until you find him, no cheating. |
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 Farsidedown
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
424 Posts
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Sunday, February 14, 2010 5:04:26 PM
"Ah but the the evidence of evolution is directly related to human origin, whereas a flood is related to weather and not to human origin. You're trying to give credit to something without a shred of logical connection. It's a non sequitur. The evidence that organisms adapt and change logically procures the idea that this could occur over time and allow for the development of species. It is not logical to go from big flood to God did it. We have two very different arguments, with two very different degress of plausibility."It doesn't change the fact that evolution is still just a theory...requiring belief without 100% certainty, just as Christianity is a religion...requiring belief without 100% certainty. You have evidence that we may have spawned from primordial soup, and I have evidence that God may have gone and dropped a ton of water on us. |
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bumbleBB
Female, 18-29, Canada
1115 Posts
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Sunday, February 14, 2010 5:04:06 PM
Farsidedown... "There was no doubt that it was a fast flood -- one that covered an expanse four times the size of Israel." So correct me if I'm wrong, but that's still not quite as large as the flood the bible? This suggests to me what I've always believed. That the bible is written by many men. It is a collection of stories written by people who would have an interest in exaggerating actual events to suit the context of their story. If it were truly God's own word the size of the flood would match up with the written account. So take your pick. The bible is fallacious because it is written by men, or this flood is unrelated.
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 feiku
Female, 18-29, Western US
530 Posts
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Sunday, February 14, 2010 5:02:07 PM
"Otherwise it would be the law of evolution, not the theory."
Actually, if you want to be technical about it, in the scientific world a theory is as solid as a law. |
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Mornaf
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
821 Posts
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Sunday, February 14, 2010 5:01:50 PM
also
gravitational theory - (physics) the theory that any two particles of matter attract one another with a force directly proportional to the product of their masses and inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them |
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Mornaf
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
821 Posts
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Sunday, February 14, 2010 4:58:57 PM
no..., it's a theory.
LINKY MCLINK-LINK!
Yes, we know that objects on earth fall at ~9.81 m/s^2
but it's still a theory. |
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Farsidedown
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
424 Posts
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Sunday, February 14, 2010 4:56:04 PM
"You mean like the theory of gravity?
Guess you don't believe in that either.
sooooo we are obviously held to the earth by god's love for us..., isn't dat sweeeeet."It's called the law of gravity not theory. "We found the missing link already..." I'm guessing you googled that cuz it was the first thing to pop up. Congrats you may have just linked lemurs to primates. Now try linking primates to humans. It MAY be a "missing link" but it's sure not THE missing link. |
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 Skyira
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
1157 Posts
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Sunday, February 14, 2010 4:55:16 PM
*sigh*....... Religion...... *more sigh* |
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 simon_nz
Male, 18-29, Asia
56 Posts
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Sunday, February 14, 2010 4:51:46 PM
who would want anyone to serve them 'period'? Yuck.. |
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Farsidedown
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
424 Posts
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Sunday, February 14, 2010 4:46:52 PM
To quote this news article:"EcoOcean and an international team believe they have found evidence to substantiate what is written in the Bible.
Says Weil, "We found that indeed a flood happened around that time. From core samples, we see that a flood broke through the natural barrier separating the Mediterranean Sea and the freshwater Black Sea, bringing with it seashells that only grow in a marine environment. There was no doubt that it was a fast flood -- one that covered an expanse four times the size of Israel." http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/200... I also read about it in my geology book a ways back...of course there's a lot of arguments going on in the scientific community whether it's true evidence of not, but I can't really link that. That and I didn't want to link something directly off a christian site(or youtube), because that would be biased.. |
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 DeSheaaaaa
Female, 18-29, Southern US
190 Posts
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Sunday, February 14, 2010 4:42:47 PM
We found the missing link already...[click">click |
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Mornaf
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
821 Posts
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Sunday, February 14, 2010 4:42:25 PM
but you don't have irrefutable proof. Otherwise it would be the law of evolution, not the theory.
You mean like the theory of gravity?
Guess you don't believe in that either.
sooooo we are obviously held to the earth by god's love for us..., isn't dat sweeeeet. |
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bumbleBB
Female, 18-29, Canada
1115 Posts
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Sunday, February 14, 2010 4:42:21 PM
Ah but the the evidence of evolution is directly related to human origin, whereas a flood is related to weather and not to human origin. You're trying to give credit to something without a shred of logical connection. It's a non sequitur. The evidence that organisms adapt and change logically procures the idea that this could occur over time and allow for the development of species. It is not logical to go from big flood to God did it. We have two very different arguments, with two very different degress of plausibility. |
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DeSheaaaaa
Female, 18-29, Southern US
190 Posts
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Sunday, February 14, 2010 4:40:36 PM
Christians = Fail. |
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Farsidedown
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
424 Posts
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Sunday, February 14, 2010 4:34:51 PM
Well first off, yes you are being a dick. Second off I'm not whining...I find that whining falls more along the lines of people who say stuff like..."Oh MAN does if that didn't just piss me off more than any other single thing I've ever read on IAB. Grade-A, top-class, utter, pure unadulterated bullsh*t." Sounds more like something you'd find on youtube than coming out of the mouth of a mod. And while we're at it, while I tried to make a factual statement about atheist vs christian comments on fb, evolution being a theory not a law, and evidence of the flood, you've done nothing but make false assumptions and whine about my claims...and love on Darwin. But of course somewhere you missed that I've just been trying to have a typical fun IAB discussion, which I step into knowing full and well that there are some MASSIVE differences between people on here. I can have evidence for the flood without an arc while you can have evidence for evolution without the missing li |
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bklynusa
Male, 30-39, Western US
217 Posts
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Sunday, February 14, 2010 4:06:19 PM
is that a "FEDS" magazine avatar? |
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 davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
11693 Posts
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Sunday, February 14, 2010 4:03:45 PM
No, I was referring to the massive sedement deposits from about 5000 years back that are commonly found in layers of rock, which geologists have typically attributed to a massive flood.
Linky. |
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bumbleBB
Female, 18-29, Canada
1115 Posts
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Sunday, February 14, 2010 4:03:05 PM
Farsidedown... I still don't know exactly how that proves anything. If there was a flood, you need to prove the arc to make the biblical connection. I am being a bit of dick I suppose, but the Christian whiny objections about the dickishness of (some) athiests just gets us going. If you could intelligently argue your case without being a damn wimp and practically crying to mommy because the stones we throw (in the way of evidence) are bigger, we might give you some props. |
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 pui
Female, 18-29, Canada
3550 Posts
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Sunday, February 14, 2010 3:55:53 PM
~*edgy atheists*~ |
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 Zerocyde
Male, 18-29, Western US
3279 Posts
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Sunday, February 14, 2010 3:53:08 PM
lol@religion |
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Farsidedown
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
424 Posts
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Sunday, February 14, 2010 3:53:03 PM
No, I was referring to the massive sedement deposits from about 5000 years back that are commonly found in layers of rock, which geologists have typically attributed to a massive flood. I've never heard that stuff about the grand canyon, and I think it's bullcrap too.Sure you guys don't look like indoctrinated sheep. You just typically act like *ssholes |
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bumbleBB
Female, 18-29, Canada
1115 Posts
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Sunday, February 14, 2010 3:48:14 PM
Hey thanks for the link! Happy Valentines to my friend Charles Darwin. |
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davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
11693 Posts
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Sunday, February 14, 2010 3:42:32 PM
Davymid! That was awesome! did you watch the second video?
I've watched most of them. They're from a youtube user called Thunderf00t (that link below was just a mirror). You can find others on his channel if you're interested- There's about 30 or so in this series, and they're all they're all well-informed, factual and interesting. |
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