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bumbleBB
Female, 18-29, Canada
 1116 Posts
Monday, February 15, 2010 9:34:17 AM
shrekshavik.... I'm not sure what point you were trying to make? can you clarify?

Skreshavik
Female, 18-29, Western US
 1288 Posts
Monday, February 15, 2010 9:31:09 AM
Davymid, Rene Descarte would disagree with you.

Though, in irony, the belief that we were not born as a blank slate led to genetics.

So, before you throw the "r" word, don't discount anything as retarded because it contradicts your view.


davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
 12015 Posts
Monday, February 15, 2010 9:25:29 AM
If you want to define atheism as "blank slate," then go on ahead. If so, then your claim "we are all born atheists" follows. Further, I agree that environment plays a role in your religion, but we both know that's not what you're trying to get at.

I'm not trying to get at anything, bub. I'm trying to point out how retarded your statement of "I believe babies can be born Christians" is.


bumbleBB
Female, 18-29, Canada
 1116 Posts
Monday, February 15, 2010 9:25:12 AM
Luniz...you're never going to get that, because the whole premise of religion is blind faith, and most people with faith will tell you that. I just want them to clear up the contradictions that cause a conflict in my moral fiber.

Skreshavik
Female, 18-29, Western US
 1288 Posts
Monday, February 15, 2010 9:24:44 AM
Mmm...good point.

Luniz82
Male, 18-29, Western US
 590 Posts
Monday, February 15, 2010 9:22:47 AM
I would like to see proof that god exists. The bible is not proof it was written by man and does not prove anything.

Luniz82
Male, 18-29, Western US
 590 Posts
Monday, February 15, 2010 9:20:28 AM
I would like to know how that is faulty since most religion is instilled in people at an adolescent age, most people just do not grow out of the fairy tail

bumbleBB
Female, 18-29, Canada
 1116 Posts
Monday, February 15, 2010 9:11:05 AM
"Atheists who make this argument claim that this argument demonstrates that man is not God-made but that God is man-made. In other words, they claim that we only believe in God because someone taught us to believe in God, often during childhood before we were able to consider the claim rationally. Yet, this claim is faulty on many levels."

What levels?
Also, what about my question?


bumbleBB
Female, 18-29, Canada
 1116 Posts
Monday, February 15, 2010 9:08:12 AM
No because the participation in the conversation is contrary to the ideology of Nihilism.

mercedzdanz
Male, 18-29, Western US
 93 Posts
Monday, February 15, 2010 9:06:02 AM
@davymid

In part this is incumbent upon which definition of atheism we are employing. Obviously, we are not born positively asserting God’s non-existence. Thus, the claim is that we are all born lacking a belief in God. Logically, this claim is accurate only at this point and is actually not successfully applicable beyond this point.

If you want to define atheism as "blank slate," then go on ahead. If so, then your claim "we are all born atheists" follows. Further, I agree that environment plays a role in your religion, but we both know that's not what you're trying to get at.

Atheists who make this argument claim that this argument demonstrates that man is not God-made but that God is man-made. In other words, they claim that we only believe in God because someone taught us to believe in God, often during childhood before we were able to consider the claim rationally. Yet, this claim is faulty on many levels.


Skreshavik
Female, 18-29, Western US
 1288 Posts
Monday, February 15, 2010 8:57:45 AM
Davymid is a believer of Tabula Rusa XD.

Wouldn't it be more accurate to say we're Nihilists in that line of thought?


bumbleBB
Female, 18-29, Canada
 1116 Posts
Monday, February 15, 2010 8:55:58 AM
"Even if it were true that people are born atheists and not theists, it would have no bearing on whether or not atheism is true, and ultimately have no bearing on actual truth. For example, if infants are born without the knowledge of airplanes, that has no bearing on the validity of airplanes."

i just need this one question answered for me. Christianity was never a religion that ruled the entire world. In fact it's following was initially a pathetically small portion of Europe until an egomaniac who's narcissism rivaled "God" forced the masses to conform. So what about the people who are born into cultures where there is no knowledge of the Christian God? Where they do things like practice polygamy and cannibalism. Are these people just unfortunate enough to be doomed to eternal damnation? Never given a chance to be "right" in Gods eyes? How can this happen?


davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
 12015 Posts
Monday, February 15, 2010 8:27:22 AM
I give you THIS for your consideration.

davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
 12015 Posts
Monday, February 15, 2010 8:22:04 AM
> Me: "Atheism is simply the default starting condition. No baby was ever born Christian, or Muslim, or Hindu."

> You: Why do you presume atheism is the default? Just because you believe so doesn't mean it is so. I believe babies can be born Christians. Like how you say you believe babies are born atheists, I believe I have the right to say babies can be born Christians.

Excuse me for a second... *takes off Mod hat, dons regular user hat*

Are you actually retarded? So a baby born in Saudi Arabia, Mumbai, or a village in the Serengeti is born Christian? No, they're born atheist, they're blank hard drives, they don't belive anything until they're indoctrinated with whatever religion they get surrounded by.

You statement is one of most f*cking retarded things I have ever witnessed. And believe me, I see more retarded sh*t than most, on a daily basis. Jesus. (no pun intended)


TKD_Master
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 4827 Posts
Monday, February 15, 2010 8:06:26 AM
"If god is omnipotent, why does he need us to serve him? (I always forget that part)"

cause if he does exist he is an evil greedy bastard :D


Skreshavik
Female, 18-29, Western US
 1288 Posts
Monday, February 15, 2010 8:01:54 AM
Dear Vegas,

No.

Sincerely,
Skresh


unmercyfuldu
Male, 18-29, Western US
 765 Posts
Monday, February 15, 2010 8:00:30 AM
I could have told everyone exactly where farsidedown's argument would lead him. He starts out making scientific claims about the bible. It turns into an issue of debating religion on scientific term which there is no evidence and then he just resorts back to the faith argument.

If you are always going to fall back on a faith argument, don't waste anyone's time trying to argue religion/spirituality on any other grounds, because you cant. Instead you just concede small points that 'nobody can disprove' and you regard this as evidence and a rationalization for your faith, because your faith isn't really faith at all. It is a belief based on horrible horrible logic and evidence, or more aptly, quips.


vegascartman
Male, 30-39, Western US
 735 Posts
Monday, February 15, 2010 7:29:50 AM
One of my favorite websites discussing the theory of God...

http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/


vegascartman
Male, 30-39, Western US
 735 Posts
Monday, February 15, 2010 7:28:24 AM
" Likewise, just because belief/knowledge in airplanes is something that is taught does not mean that airplanes does not exists."

Here is where your argument falls apart. I can show you an airplane. I can show you a picture of one (not an interpretation of what one might be...an actual photograph of a real airplane), I can have you touch an airplane, sit in an airplane, fly an airplane, hell, I can even have you jump out of an airplane. The belief in "god" however requires faith. My belief in the existence of airplanes does not require faith as it's appearance can be demonstrated and reproduced for others. Belief in a deity cannot be.


BrimstoneOne
Male, 30-39, Canada
 2239 Posts
Monday, February 15, 2010 7:25:34 AM
Genesis is a lie, we, humans, where NOT caste out of the 'garden of eden', for the earth as a whole IS the "garden of eden"

And death is rather permanent after about 5 min. after one expires, so that kinda makes the "resurrection" a lie as well.

Religion as a whole needs to evolve, for all the preaching about 'sin' and 'salvation' from the early myth makers, are just that, MYTHS.


LtFurpie
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 1019 Posts
Monday, February 15, 2010 7:15:24 AM
If god is omnipotent, why does he need us to serve him? (I always forget that part)

kewlbetti
Female, 30-39, Southern US
 62 Posts
Monday, February 15, 2010 5:53:04 AM
O - that's why Jesus was a carpenters son!

almightybob1
Male, 18-29, Europe
 4278 Posts
Monday, February 15, 2010 5:30:12 AM
If Christians assume that infants can go to heaven, then we have to assume that infants are Christians from conception.

That's interesting. Aren't all babies born into original sin, as Psalms 51:5 suggests?
Also, what about babies that are born into different cultures with different religions? Are they born Muslim? What about babies that are born into secular families? Are they just untapped Christians? If they stay untapped Christians their whole lives, shouldn't they go to heaven just as a baby would?

And I nearly held in the laugh. It was so close.


MattPrince
Male, 40-49, Europe
 2223 Posts
Monday, February 15, 2010 4:56:13 AM
"This is what you people call an intelligent debate?"

Nah, you need intelligence on both sides to have a debate.. :)


MattPrince
Male, 40-49, Europe
 2223 Posts
Monday, February 15, 2010 4:53:12 AM
"Whenever a concept is introduced to a person, the person does something with that concept: believe, disbelieve, dismiss, etc. But, something is done and that something is a position held. "

Sometimes it takes a bit of torture and threats of eternal damnation.. But eventually the position holds... for a while.


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