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 Inter237
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
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Sunday, December 19, 2010 9:16:26 AM
Hah well that is one theory! |
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 atm
Female, 13-17, Midwest US
127 Posts
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Friday, February 26, 2010 2:00:11 PM
A classmate was talking about that recently. Lol. So basically they think the world is gonna end because theres no calender for after 2012? Thats retarded. |
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 asdow50
Male, 13-17, Canada
4 Posts
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Monday, February 15, 2010 4:38:46 PM
This is EXACTLY my theory! They either ran out of rock (most likely) or since they all died off (do your history and you would know) they didn't get to finish writing it all before hand. |
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 5Cats
Male, 40-49, Canada
16922 Posts
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Sunday, February 14, 2010 10:56:57 AM
The media had an orgasm over it
Davymid, what really happened was that the MSM sat on it for months, until the blogs made so much noise about it they couldn't ignore it any longer. Then they suddenly found the time to talk about it.
The samples from the e-mails I've seen discussed can only be seen as data manipulation and supression of opposing data. The reason there's tons of e-mails is that proves these aren't faked. Also it's highly likely the data was leaked, not hacked (a subtle but important difference).
I hope you'll see this, if not, NP! My termite example is shakey, lolz! But the past centuries with much higher temps & no disasters is true. I can find the graphs if you're really interested. |
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 davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
11676 Posts
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Saturday, February 13, 2010 10:10:59 PM
Yeah, I know death. Can't let it go. To be fair though, I never would consider Ollie trolling, rather a respected debater. |
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 bejoty
Female, 13-17, Eastern US
83 Posts
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Saturday, February 13, 2010 2:04:29 PM
hahaha i remember when that one was in the paper. |
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 deathxtra
Male, 13-17, Western US
2810 Posts
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Saturday, February 13, 2010 10:06:27 AM
"Anyways, I'm done being trolled off-topic and I'm done trying to teach armchair scientists who think they know it all from some articles they read on the internet rather than listen to the scientific community. Laters. "and yet... "Ollie, that statement (hide the decline) was three words, meant nothing in the greater context of the email, and was blown out of all proportion by the media. Just like SARS was. Just like Avian Flu was. Just like Swine Flu was. The media had an orgasm over it, and made it into more than what it was. It was to do with tree-ring data disagreeing with contrary evidence form ice-cores, lake-bottom varves, isotopic analysis and other scientific measurements. Sure, there are uncertainties, that's how science works. That statement was about those uncertainties, nothing else. "
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davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
11676 Posts
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Friday, February 12, 2010 10:47:36 PM
Ollie, that statement (hide the decline) was three words, meant nothing in the greater context of the email, and was blown out of all proportion by the media. Just like SARS was. Just like Avian Flu was. Just like Swine Flu was. The media had an orgasm over it, and made it into more than what it was. It was to do with tree-ring data disagreeing with contrary evidence form ice-cores, lake-bottom varves, isotopic analysis and other scientific measurements. Sure, there are uncertainties, that's how science works. That statement was about those uncertainties, nothing else. Anyways, this thread is dead. I'll explain in more detail on the next live debate. On another note, I genuinely enjoy these debates, no animosity here from me to you. Long may it continue. Intended with a sense of friendliness and mutual respect. |
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 OldOllie
Male, 50-59, Midwest US
8721 Posts
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Friday, February 12, 2010 9:11:32 PM
"p.s. save the "climategate" bullsh*t, as they were a handful of scientifically insignificant, innocuous comments from 5 climatologists taken wildly out of context..."Okay, Davy, tell us please, in what context can "hide the decline" be construed as anything other than blatant scientific fraud? The Climategate emails simply confirmed what many of us have known for years: the peer-review process has been totally corrupted by a bunch of incestuous charlatans. The old "everybody agrees" bullpoo has had its run. The fact is, everybody does NOT agree. It's just that skeptics can't get their work published by the corrupt journals, so they have found other outlets. Most people aren't buying it anymore. The hucksters who have been raking in $millions and accumulating political power that would make Hitler blush have finally been exposed as liars and thieves. The wheels are coming off, Davy. I suggest you bail while you still have a reputation. |
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 Tonyjet
Male, 18-29, Western US
3430 Posts
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Friday, February 12, 2010 2:23:02 PM
i didnt know the mayans were talking about Global warming, breaking news i guess |
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 PunchFace
Male, 18-29, Europe
30 Posts
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Friday, February 12, 2010 2:07:49 PM
Wow, Davymid. Nice.
That's science, bitches!
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davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
11676 Posts
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Friday, February 12, 2010 1:55:02 PM
5cats nailed it... global warming is a hoax... IT'S A CYCLE that we don't contribute to.
Maybe, maybe not. Sure, climate change is cyclical (despite Mr Comedy's slandering ealier, I know a thing or two about it), what's unprecedented now is the RATE of climate change. That's why there is likely an anthropogenic component to our current climatic shift. Anyways, I'm done being trolled off-topic and I'm done trying to teach armchair scientists who think they know it all from some articles they read on the internet rather than listen to the scientific community. Laters. |
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davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
11676 Posts
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Friday, February 12, 2010 1:49:16 PM
> 5Cats: "To imagine that humans are warming the earth is huberis in the extreme. Termite produce more greenhouse gasses than ALL of human activity."--------------- Bullsh*t, lies, and conservative propaganda. Global emissions of methane due to termites are estimated to be between 20 and 29 Tg per year. Emissions of methane from human activity IN THE US ALONE is estimated at around 585 Tg per year. That would make it around 4% of human emissions (that's just the US's contribution, that number shrinks considerably taking in world emissions). NOT 600% the global level. Those are very different numbers. Difference between your number and mine is that I can back mine up with an actual internationally respected scientific source (something I don't see you climate change nay-sayers do very often). From the US EPA (Environmental Protection Agency). http://epa.go |
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davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
11676 Posts
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Friday, February 12, 2010 1:37:41 PM
4. The very FACT that scientists who work for oil companies are telling you global warming (or in a broader sense, climate change) is real should set those little alarm bells ringing in your tiny brain. If anyone should be deniers, it should be us. 5. I never once alluded to whether it was man-made or not. YOU put those bullsh*t words in my mouth. As it happens, I do believe it is (in large part) man-made, though I never said so, I only said that to claim it’s not happening is a downright lie. So please do me the courtesy of not pulling bullsh*t that I never said. 6. Personal insults such as directly calling other users scumbags (especially when they said nothing to elicit such an attack) is against the rules. That includes insults against Moderators. Consider this an official warning.
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davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
11676 Posts
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Friday, February 12, 2010 1:37:01 PM
Even more of a scumbag than usual? Debating on a subject I know nothing about? HILARIOUS? Really?1. An Earth Scientist studies the Earth. That’s all earth systems, geological, hydrological and atmospheric. To say an earth scientist “knows nothing about” atmospheric science is as retarded as saying a doctor knows nothing about anatomy. 2. My PhD is in sequence stratigraphy (look it up). That’s the study of sea level fluctuations throughout geological time, and their association with climatic controls. That’s what we USE to find hydrocarbons in the subsurface. I can almost guarantee that I know more about climate change than just about everyone you know. 3. So I work for an oil company? So what? I’m not fed bullsh*t by the “Shell Corporation” (you make it sound like the Church of F*cking Scientology), and am quite capable of thinking on my own. |
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davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
11676 Posts
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Friday, February 12, 2010 1:33:38 PM
Mr. Comedy says: You know what's funny? That davymid, an Earth Scientist working for the Shell Corporation, by, and I paraphrase, 'drawing an X on a map a telling them where to drill' is championing for global warming, something he actually knows nothing about. Oh, he's a scientist, but that doesn't make him knowledgeable on the subject, yet he feels justified in throwing out his Ph.D on subject matter it doesn't pertain to. On that note, it's even more hilarious that the further debate is whether or not mankind is primarily to blame for global warming, and davymid works for an OIL COMPANY. PRICELESS! What is it the Shell Corporation tells you, davy? Admit to global warming, but for god's sake, don't mention that it may be man-made? It's funny, because you're more of a scumbag than usual for weighing in on, of all topics, global warming. Hilarious
Wow. Lemme answer that: |
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 SilentFray
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
678 Posts
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Friday, February 12, 2010 12:37:05 PM
5cats nailed it. global warming is a hoax. if you read the new york times the headlines (through the years) flip flop back and forth saying "global warming" then "global cooling" and then back to "global warming". IT'S A CYCLE that we don't contribute to. Besides, it's not the end of the world, its the end of the world as we know it. I think there's going to be a big change not total destruction. |
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 YLE
Female, 18-29, Europe
969 Posts
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Friday, February 12, 2010 8:42:48 AM
lmao i had wondered that. it makes sense |
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 Random3
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
113 Posts
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Friday, February 12, 2010 8:17:51 AM
lol That's probably what happened. |
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 SexyZoe
Female, 13-17, Eastern US
44 Posts
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Friday, February 12, 2010 7:12:44 AM
HEHEHEHEHEHE THATS FUNNY
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 Axires
Male, 13-17, Europe
65 Posts
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Friday, February 12, 2010 7:06:21 AM
Lol great explanation
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 duffytoler
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
5220 Posts
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Friday, February 12, 2010 6:59:24 AM
Heh. NAILED IT! |
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 MetalicDemon
Male, 18-29, Europe
1712 Posts
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Friday, February 12, 2010 6:55:01 AM
lol, all you apocalypse belivers make me laugh |
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 ElDavo
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
2168 Posts
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Friday, February 12, 2010 5:33:50 AM
it's a god damn cycle, the earth heats melting ice caps that cause more rain and cool the effing earth, GOD!! |
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5Cats
Male, 40-49, Canada
16922 Posts
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Friday, February 12, 2010 5:25:58 AM
In the past the earth has been a great deal warmer (or colder) than today. In 1300BC it was a good +2C average hotter for over a century. Did the world end? Nope, it was a boom-time for plant growth and human expansion.
To imagine that humans are warming the earth is huberis in the extreme. Termite produce more greenhouse gasses than ALL of human activity.
On Topic > The Mayan calender doesn't "end in 2012" it counts down to zero (or 1, idk if they had zero) and then starts counting down all over. They didn't run out of room, it was planned that way from the beginning of the 4th cycle. |
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