 obhwfgirl
Female, 18-29, Western US
 553 Posts
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Tuesday, January 19, 2010 12:08:13 AM
xiquiripat, my opinion is based on context. I don't think that this method should penetrate into mainstream society because that would be a waste of public resources and would probably result in an *increase* in corruption (e.g. wrongful accusation based on blackmailing). It would also have to be derived from a big brother society.But in the context of the military, these are people in high-stres, high-risk environments and if superior officers don't keep an eye on their subordinates, something could happen that could threaten the lives of others. In this case, if there is no other evidence than these pictures (and that's a BIG if), then it's worth the price to make sure this man is still mentally fit to be on the front lines. I feel sorry for him, but it's sometimes the price a person has to pay for the cohesion of a unit in combat. If this guy really is looking at child porn and has perverse control issues, would you be comfortable putting your life in his hands? |
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 sbeelz
Male, 30-39, Western US
2860 Posts
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Monday, January 18, 2010 9:11:59 PM
"What's worse -- a wrongful accusation or an offender who's never caught?"
Well, let's see, is it easier to defend yourself against one individual or the state? Simply being wrongfully accused, let alone convicted, of sexual abuse, rape, or child pornography can damage a person's life just as decisively as being the victim of a sexual crime. It can take a person a lifetime to get over either one. |
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 idiotfilter
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
3934 Posts
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Monday, January 18, 2010 8:52:54 PM
in all fairness....who takes a picture of a young girl posing in a bathing suit on a truck's hood....are you serious??if you want to remind them of home...send a FACE SHOT....sheesh.... |
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 xiquiripat
Male, 18-29, Western US
2419 Posts
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Monday, January 18, 2010 12:31:45 PM
What's worse -- a wrongful accusation or an offender who's never caught?Military issues aside the tone of your post suggests you want this mentality permeate ALL of society. |
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 kairobert
Male, 18-29, Europe
1634 Posts
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Monday, January 18, 2010 6:45:30 AM
I know far too well that bureaucracy is fail. |
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 lostinkorea
Female, 30-39, Europe
3620 Posts
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Monday, January 18, 2010 5:41:35 AM
Constitutional Rights of Military Personnel |
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lostinkorea
Female, 30-39, Europe
3620 Posts
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Monday, January 18, 2010 5:38:42 AM
There must be something else going on in the background. We all get pictures like this from our family and it's not investigated. Maybe he had a previous incident or something. It just doesn't sound right. |
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 pumba62
Male, 40-49, Canada
651 Posts
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Monday, January 18, 2010 5:11:29 AM
Wow . .... The pendulous swing of humanity,goes from ambivalence to asinine. Why in God's name is this man in custody for child pornography for simple pictures sent to him by his own mother of a child ( whom we really don't know the connection ) to help lift his spirits while in a war zone!
If this is the case then anyone who looked at the entry just a few places up should have their eyes burned out and head on a plate for looking at the young obvious underage Japanese girls standing in line with their panties around their knees.
Maybe to help people with their judgment ( so they won't find themselves in this sort of predicament again) someone can either come up with a feature on a camera that can judge whether a simple picture of a child will be construed as child porn of course it would have to be updated daily because ideas and views or interpretations change that often....or maybe have a program on your computer to evaluate the photo.
The Us Military the biggest Nanny s |
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 Kalimata
Male, 30-39, Canada
591 Posts
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Monday, January 18, 2010 4:59:25 AM
That's horsecock. Unless there are other pictures involved, the LT. or the company commander should have shut this poo right down. Those are no more pornographic than kids running through sprinklers. Isn't there a clause in the law about overtly sexual posing? Boy's LT, SGT, and CSM should be raising hell to get him released. |
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obhwfgirl
Female, 18-29, Western US
553 Posts
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Monday, January 18, 2010 4:11:21 AM
Thank you, RobSwindolThe rights of military personnel are not the same for the common citizen. In order for every level of the military to run effectively (despite what you think about the objectives set down by superior officers) and if people's lives are in jeopardy, you can't take the risk of letting someone who might have deep psychiatric problems slip through the cracks. I don't think those pictures count as child porn, but some of them are provocative enough to wave some red flags. Is that enough to charge a man in the military? Maybe. If there isn't anything more to the story, he'll be found innocent. Honestly, there are greater atrocities being committed in the world right now then this. Why not save your outrage for something important -- like, I dunno, the Haitian earthquake profiteers? /soapbox |
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 AlterImuruki
Male, 13-17, Canada
173 Posts
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Monday, January 18, 2010 3:45:48 AM
that pisses me off. |
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 jeswra
Male, 18-29, Canada
244 Posts
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Monday, January 18, 2010 2:00:01 AM
Are these people F**king retarded? How in the hell are fully clothed pictures considered "porn"?
Jesus, the government is just obsessed with child porn. |
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 lemmingboy15
Male, 18-29, Southern US
642 Posts
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Monday, January 18, 2010 12:26:55 AM
ok if there are real nude pictures that we don't know about then that's one thing, but if the pictures we saw are the same pictures in question then i have no faith in humanity -.-
secondly the report says he's from the army, but at 2:43 it shows him in marine dress blues? i'm confused. |
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 yppaHrM
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
7 Posts
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Sunday, January 17, 2010 11:36:52 PM
Ugh..makes me sad :( and his unit's from my state too |
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 Xutar
Male, 13-17, Midwest US
158 Posts
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Sunday, January 17, 2010 9:46:58 PM
Why people love to hate the military I'll never understand. Im going to go ahead and assume the military at least generally follows the U.S. policy of "innocent until proven guilty" and probably has more to go on than simply his possession of these photos. |
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 Batmanners
Male, 18-29, Canada
4012 Posts
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Sunday, January 17, 2010 9:25:34 PM
There HAS to be more to the story than just those pictures. The military has proven it's lack of intelligence over the years, but doubt they would get mad at a soldier for just having a few pictures of a little girl. Maybe he told his mom it was those pictures because he was ashamed of the pics, IDK... |
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 LadyWeasel
Female, 30-39, Southern US
464 Posts
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Sunday, January 17, 2010 9:23:14 PM
I fail to see how that is child porn ... |
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 Skreshavik
Female, 18-29, Western US
1288 Posts
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Sunday, January 17, 2010 6:55:08 PM
Oh dear, the stupid seeped into my mind >.> |
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Skreshavik
Female, 18-29, Western US
1288 Posts
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Sunday, January 17, 2010 6:54:35 PM
Bureaucrats, ya gotta love them *sparks flint with a torch* |
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 _kiersten_
Female, 18-29, Western US
1677 Posts
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Sunday, January 17, 2010 6:26:47 PM
Well, if those are the only pictures that were found, then saying that is child pornography is an outrageous claim, and that almost every person with pictures of their children in bathing suits should be charged with it as well -.- Now, if there are other pictures, then who knows -shrugs- |
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 CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
14374 Posts
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Sunday, January 17, 2010 6:25:28 PM
How can anyone in their right mind think that is kiddie pron ? Geesh, This country has gone absolutely apesh|t. I hope this TV report finds it's way to a Senator or Congressman that can help. |
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 cobrakiller
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
6848 Posts
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Sunday, January 17, 2010 6:21:58 PM
wow, if thats child porn, i think we are all guilty. |
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 Bluedot34
Male, 18-29, Southern US
297 Posts
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Sunday, January 17, 2010 6:20:55 PM
Poor dude |
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saintnickxii
Male, 18-29, Europe
128 Posts
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Sunday, January 17, 2010 5:07:37 PM
OH BILLY!!! |
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 RobSwindol
Male, 30-39, Southern US
2035 Posts
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Sunday, January 17, 2010 4:58:51 PM
"Guilty until proven innocent eh, obhwfgirl?"In the military, there is no such thing as innocent until proven guilty. The military doesn't use civilian laws and judicial operating procedures. They have what is called the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ), and it doesn't provide military members with constitutional rights. |
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