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 themightybox
Male, 13-17, Europe
 81 Posts
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Friday, October 01, 2010 3:31:00 AM
its real you can buy them on ebay lol
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 michael24895
Male, 13-17, Western US
95 Posts
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Saturday, September 12, 2009 2:12:13 AM
if this is real, ford ftw |
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 jakeyboy69
Male, 13-17, Europe
150 Posts
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Tuesday, September 08, 2009 12:54:07 PM
I can't remember if this is real or not, probably not :D |
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 Skeezer1991
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
725 Posts
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Monday, September 07, 2009 11:19:14 PM
This may actually be real, that's the great part haha. |
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 lerie
Female, 18-29, S. America
1271 Posts
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Monday, September 07, 2009 6:23:22 PM
ahhh...lameAlthough I do hate bras and I wish I could obliterate them from the face of the planet. They hurt. |
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 ExplosiveDJ
Male, 13-17, Southern US
81 Posts
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Monday, September 07, 2009 5:39:49 PM
Win. XD |
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Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
9554 Posts
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Monday, September 07, 2009 5:14:19 PM
"LOL love this, and angillion? you think too much,[..]"It's OK - there are people like you to balance that out. |
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 MetalicDemon
Male, 18-29, Europe
1712 Posts
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Monday, September 07, 2009 3:45:22 PM
that just might work |
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 ShadowDD13
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
261 Posts
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Monday, September 07, 2009 10:12:12 AM
LOL love this, and angillion? you think too much, go argue on a page that people will actually care about |
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 kscott6
Male, 13-17, Eastern US
12 Posts
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Monday, September 07, 2009 7:26:36 AM
Im going to go purchase this car. |
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 Lionhart2
Male, 40-49, Australia
8285 Posts
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Monday, September 07, 2009 2:41:04 AM
> OldOllie
> the Pontiac GTO is basically a Holden imported to the US. It has a...I get what you're trying to say Ollie, but any car's not REALLY a Holden until its done at least 300,000km - until then it's just a toddler wearing a Holden diaper. |
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Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
9554 Posts
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Monday, September 07, 2009 1:48:27 AM
"Lionheart, the Pontiac GTO is basically a Holden imported to the US. It has a 400 HP V-8, and sold new for just over $30,000."The UK got a 500HP version, because why not? They called it a Vauxhall Monaro VXR500, but it was a Holden with a name change. It drank fuel and was as sophisticated as farting, but it was half the price of other cars of comparable size and performance. |
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Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
9554 Posts
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Monday, September 07, 2009 1:47:37 AM
So...it's a good job such cars are very tunable. You refer to the 2007 Mustang GT. I agree that it wasn't at all good.Here's one answer - Roush. They'll tune it quite a lot for not all that much money, turning it into a car that has enough power and greatly improved handling. US$14K for 2010. Here's Jeremy Clarkson with the 2006 Roush Mustang, close to the 2007 model you mentioned. Bear in mind how scathing he is about lumbering overweight muscle cars that don't have enough power and can't go round corners properly. http://www.metacafe.com/watch/339391/mus... About 3:05, when the Roush Mustang accelerates past the Shelby Mustang...what a noise. The basso profundo of the big V8 and the soprano of the supercharger. It's like a pride of lions roaring at a swarm of bees on speed, with megaphones. |
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Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
9554 Posts
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Monday, September 07, 2009 1:47:16 AM
Baalthazaq: While comparable on acceleration, top speed and price, a Mustang and an Elise are not really comparable at all. They're designed for completely different things. An Elise is not what you'd want for long trips on wide straight roads and a Mustang is not what you'd want for precise handling on narrower, bendier roads and in town, let alone a track. Elise vs Mustang on a track would be hilarious mismatch, like a pig chasing a leopard.I agree on the inadequate power, though. A muscle car as heavy as stock USA muscle cars would need a lot more power to live up to the noise. Stock USA muscle cars are too much mouth for their trousers. |
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 iluvpink13
Female, 18-29, Canada
1418 Posts
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Monday, September 07, 2009 12:58:17 AM
lol love it!!! |
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 eskimo9
Male, 18-29, Australia
710 Posts
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Monday, September 07, 2009 12:52:33 AM
@AngillionNot in Aus. European and American imports all seem to balance out pricewise, the difference being that European kicks American arse. That said, Japanese, and even some other Asian cars are pantsing both Euros and Yanks in terms of bang for the buck. |
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KMFDM781
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
13 Posts
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Monday, September 07, 2009 12:49:49 AM
Baalthazaq: The 2009 Mustangs actually handle pretty well, and the Shelby GT500 version is a monster in the straights and handles the corners extremely well. You're comparing the Mustang to a Lotus Elise, but you have to understand the Lotus is a pure sporting car. People over 5 foot 8 have a hard time fitting in one. The goal of an Elise is to go around a track as fast as possible. A Mustang will move around a track respectably and carry luggage and most people comfortably. |
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 dracokain
Male, 18-29, Southern US
268 Posts
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Monday, September 07, 2009 12:09:52 AM
Ugh mustangs |
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 Baalthazaq
Male, 18-29, Asia
4753 Posts
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Sunday, September 06, 2009 11:54:43 PM
Angillion:
Lotus Elise.
0-60 mph 4.9 sec
0-100 mph 12.9 sec
Top Speed 150 mph1.8L Engine. $45'000. 2007 Mustang GT. 0-60: 5.1s (Worse)
0-100: 12.7s (better)
Top Speed: 149MPH 4.6L Engine, $35'000. (23% cheaper) Now consider however, that the Lotus Elise can turn a corner. I don't like American cars. I don't understand why they're roaring at me when they aren't doing anything for it. Muscle cars? I guess... but surely some of the muscle should be placed somewhere other than the vocal chords... Additionally, when something is large, but low on power... isn't that more fat than muscle? Wouldn't the Muscle Car be the 2L engine that puts out 250HP, as opposed to the 5L engine that puts out 250HP? |
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 OldOllie
Male, 50-59, Midwest US
8742 Posts
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Sunday, September 06, 2009 11:33:44 PM
Lionheart, the Pontiac GTO is basically a Holden imported to the US. It has a 400 HP V-8, and sold new for just over $30,000. There's nothing from Europe or Japan for under $100,000 that can keep up with one. They're discontinued now, but you can get really nice, clean, low-mileage used ones for about $15,000. The difference between that and a European V-8 will by a LOT of gas. |
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OldOllie
Male, 50-59, Midwest US
8742 Posts
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Sunday, September 06, 2009 11:28:34 PM
V-8s are high performance engines found in $25,000 American cars and €75,000 European cars. If you're worried about fuel economy, you don't deserve one. BTW, "€" is what you get when you try to post the symbol for euro on this board. |
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Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
9554 Posts
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Sunday, September 06, 2009 11:08:08 PM
"but my point was more about the disgusting inefficiency of most American cars. "Need more horsepower? No problem. Let's make the engine even bigger!" It just seems to me that they don't bother trying to push the boundary of engineering, and just take the relatively easy way out. "The engines are under less stress, so you can use inferior (and thus cheaper) materials to make them. You need less R&D money. The engines will run for many miles even with cheaper materials. It's easier with a bigger engine to get more low-end torque, which matters more in the USA market. Other engines will get more power, more economy, lower emissions...but they'll cost a lot more to develop and to build and that strongly affects the price of making the car. That in turn moves it up market, which makes better quality all round necessary (at more extra cost) to suit the market. A European sports saloon will spank a USA muscle car...but at twice the price. |
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 meowmix777
Male, 18-29, Canada
55 Posts
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Sunday, September 06, 2009 8:23:05 PM
 Check this bad boy out; one horsepower, straw powered, engine at 5mph tops. Will beat any one of your rides anyday. |
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 moogleluvr
Male, 13-17, Western US
76 Posts
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Sunday, September 06, 2009 8:14:20 PM
"Take a dump in what aspect moogle? MPGs? That and suspension is the only thing I can think of. Many four bangers are popular for the fwd which we all know is worthless." -atlacatlI actually had the venerable Evo, STi, and S2000 in mind. The first two for their monstrous amounts of power for such small displacement, and the S2000 for Honda's genius in squeezing that many horsepower out of a N/A engine (which is also tiny). I do concede that a V8 done correctly is far beyond a regular V4, but my point was more about the disgusting inefficiency of most American cars. "Need more horsepower? No problem. Let's make the engine even bigger!" It just seems to me that they don't bother trying to push the boundary of engineering, and just take the relatively easy way out. But there's still the old adage "There's no replacement for displacement," so...meh. |
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 GolfRocks
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
151 Posts
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Sunday, September 06, 2009 5:58:42 PM
woops, here it is
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