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Female, 18-29, Canada
 213 Posts
Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:04:30 PM
I wonder how much of the general population today knows what "superfluous" means?

Female, 13-17, Southern US
 56 Posts
Wednesday, August 12, 2009 3:25:56 PM
ah, how times have changed...
this is why we have the FDA now. =D

Male, 40-49, Europe
 12389 Posts
Wednesday, August 12, 2009 5:23:03 AM
I missed a massive error in Baalthazaq's revised argument.

You've shifted the collection of trends and stereotypes from absolutes to near-absolutes, acknowledging exceptions that you refer to as outliers, i.e. rare and highly unrepresentative anomalous results that you compare with things such as three-legged rhinos.

Some of the things you quote may not even be trends at all and may be trends in the opposite direction. Pain threshold for example - the prevailing evidence hasn't yet been made to fit the currently popular sexist stereotype.

But I'll be generous and use one of your examples that is definitely a strong trend - height.

To fit your revised argument, it would need to be very rare for a woman to be taller than a man. This is obviously not the case. Many millions of women are taller than many millions of men. It is nowhere near rare enough for your argument to hold up.

Your argument fails even using only one of your least bad examples.

Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 3934 Posts
Tuesday, August 11, 2009 10:52:52 PM
clearly baalthazag has a LOT of time on his hands to write such a lengthy essay SO MANY TIMES...

on a ridiculous side note: lol old newspaper ads...

Male, 40-49, Europe
 12389 Posts
Tuesday, August 11, 2009 5:28:38 PM

If it ever becomes common to unfairly group, stereotype and restrict rhinos on the basis of some trends to varying extents and some stuff that's not even a trend, you'll have a fair point.

You can dismiss my point as some pathetic obsession with grammar all you like, but it only makes you look bad. Even if sexist stereotyping didn't exist, that would still be a risible line of argument.

Male, 13-17, Western US
 63 Posts
Tuesday, August 11, 2009 7:29:51 AM
O_O! Essays in comment section. Do not want.

Male, 18-29, Asia
 4753 Posts
Tuesday, August 11, 2009 12:41:41 AM
(Although fair point on women's leg strength, but that was because I mis-stated they have "stronger legs" instead of a "ratio of leg strength to arm strength that favours their legs when compared to men".

On average 58% of a woman's skeletal muscle mass is in the lower body, compared to 55% of men's. Link to study.

If we're still being utterly anal on language, I never actually compared them to men either. I could have been comparing them to male homing pigeons for all you know.

Yet you some how managed to get the inference. Should I start handing out cookies for garnering the basics of language from text? Jeez.

Male, 18-29, Asia
 4753 Posts
Tuesday, August 11, 2009 12:24:43 AM
Also, while we're on the subject of language, I didn't say, "Women have", I said women "don't have" in a sarcastic tone. I noticed you didn't take me literally, which suggests you have the capacity for reasonable thought.

Why not apply it to it's obvious conclusion instead of only halfway? Did I mean X, where you have deemed X "So preposterous I don't even know why you're saying it", no clearly not. I thought the outliers were stupid enough that they go without saying.

The easiest one being that I am aware of dwarfism and I'm aware of tall people. There is no one on earth who believes all women (including arguably children saying as we're doing everything in absolutes) are shorter than all men.

Clearly not. That I have some modicum of respect for the intellectual capacity of IABers and figure, hey, I'll just state my opinions and they'll figure out the rest without my spoonfeeding.


Male, 18-29, Asia
 4753 Posts
Tuesday, August 11, 2009 12:15:16 AM
Ah, I see your problem, you misinterpreted my entire post.

A feminine trait is not necessarily possessed by all women. (Taken to such ridiculous extremes, not all women have a vagina due to accident, surgery, birth defects, etc. However it is possible to discuss a group based on a majority).

You don't discuss a group on outliers, otherwise no object can possess traits. It's gone out of the hands of mere language and into the realms of your personal philosophy.

Rhinos? You get some with 3 legs, no horn, small stature, dwarfism, gigantism, bone diseases, no eyes, one eye, toothless, etc.

Yet wikipedia is still happy to state Rhinos have "relatively small brains for mammals this size (400–600g)" without incurring the wrath of anthropologists everywhere.

Why bother even replying to me when you would be better served correcting every dictionary in the world in their usage of plurals?

Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 26 Posts
Monday, August 10, 2009 10:33:09 PM
Veet will turn you white.....?

Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 408 Posts
Monday, August 10, 2009 10:22:33 PM
I use Nair or I just shave, but I also have sensitive skin sometimes so I have to be careful.
I have faith in 98% of people who read this already knew what superfluous meant, and if not, got it from context.
But as far as any other statement made on this topic about female or male traits...making generalities is probably the quickest way to be proven wrong. some women are stronger than some men. Some men have a higher pain threshold than some women, and all vice versa.
I can handle physical pain, but emotional pain is what I can't stand, you know anger and sadness. but I've been hit with a bat in my shins lol

Male, 40-49, Europe
 12389 Posts
Monday, August 10, 2009 8:39:14 PM
Also, the most obviously wrong statement you made is that all women have stronger leg muscles than all men.

That is so clearly wrong that I'm at a loss as to why you even tried to pass it off as absolutely proven fact. Men tend to have stronger leg muscles than women and that's quite a strong tendency, so you've reversed the real trend and claimed it as an absolute.

Male, 40-49, Europe
 12389 Posts
Monday, August 10, 2009 8:36:08 PM

What I would like is the absolute proof of absolute differences that you wrongly claimed existed.

I'm sure there are some studies that support popular contempory stereotypes, but I'm also sure that there are different studies that supported different popular contempory stereotypes in the past.

Also, there are conflicting results in contempory studies. Try pain threshold, for example. People try hard to gather evidence to prop up the currently popular stereotype that women (note: that means all women) have a higher pain threshold than men (note: that means all men), but they can't even get a consistent trend. The prevailing evidence is that the trend is the other way, but it's far from proof of even a trend, let alone an absolute.

Male, 18-29, Southern US
 3770 Posts
Monday, August 10, 2009 7:21:48 PM
Baal, what about what women like in men? The statue of David did at that time and will probably always be attractive to women.

I agree with your point, but you take it too far. I learned in junior high that during the Middle Ages larger women were preferred because it showed that they had enough food to eat and were healthier. But, in general, what makes a woman attractive will be generally the same. Weight and other characteristics may range up or down over generations, but the basic attractiveness is dictated by evolution, not culture.

Male, 18-29, Southern US
 3770 Posts
Monday, August 10, 2009 7:16:16 PM
lerie is right. It doesn't grow thicker, it's just more jagged and rough.

Female, 13-17, Eastern US
 327 Posts
Monday, August 10, 2009 7:06:14 PM
And you would imagine the product would be better now than when the ad was printed.

Female, 18-29, S. America
 1271 Posts
Monday, August 10, 2009 5:54:16 PM
"i dunno if its just my luck but shaving doesnt make hair grow thicker in my experience"
It does not grow thicker. It's an illusion O.o

Veet sucks. It gave me horrible alergies ¬¬

Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 613 Posts
Monday, August 10, 2009 5:20:52 PM
i agree, veet doesnt work very well. but i like how it said it fixed the problems forever >_<*

i dunno if its just my luck but shaving doesnt make hair grow thicker in my experience

Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 1602 Posts
Monday, August 10, 2009 4:49:24 PM
"Evil smelling powders"

Female, 18-29, Australia
 4196 Posts
Monday, August 10, 2009 4:47:19 PM
I tried Veet a couple of years ago on my legs. It made patches fall off and was left with stubble all over. Crummy product

Male, 18-29, Asia
 4753 Posts
Monday, August 10, 2009 4:24:37 PM
(Admittedly I don't have a link to the all important study on "do women have vaginas" maybe there's something on the internet about that though....)

Male, 18-29, Asia
 4753 Posts
Monday, August 10, 2009 4:22:33 PM
I did not include an untrue stereotype. I rechecked every one of my points. Which would you like a link to? Brain pattern difference examples? Navigation? Multitasking? How many studies would you like on each?

Don't tell me it's the physical differences you have the problem with...
I gave plenty of trends. That makes them feminine traits. It doesn't mean there aren't a couple of bearded ladies hanging around a circus nearby, or the occasional tall women.

Male, 30-39, Western US
 231 Posts
Monday, August 10, 2009 4:05:36 PM
Baal...I've been lookin' for two effing days and I can't find an antenna!!!!

Male, 40-49, Europe
 12389 Posts
Monday, August 10, 2009 12:51:30 PM

I think you're not making the point you intend to make, because what you've done is to combine some trends and some untrue stereotypes and portrayed them all as absolutes, absolutely proven to be absolutely true.

That means you are doing a pretty good job of proving the very point you're arguing against. You're doing it much more than most, particularly by making false claims to authority.

Female, 18-29, Europe
 1012 Posts
Monday, August 10, 2009 11:56:46 AM

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