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 snottydyck
Male, 40-49, Canada
 703 Posts
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Thursday, July 16, 2009 6:57:59 PM
we owe these guys so much! on rememberance day or memorial day do not patronize any shops that are open for business. |
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 shizzamX
Female, 18-29, Southern US
2835 Posts
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Monday, June 08, 2009 3:28:21 PM
but where's the asplosion? |
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 Webz
Male, 18-29, Europe
569 Posts
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Monday, June 08, 2009 9:05:29 AM
OK, I literally just sat my Nazi Germany history paper a few hours ago.Kairobert: Justifying nationalism was not "just how Nazi Germany began." Nazi Germany began because the democratic government before it f***ed pretty much everything up and the Nazis were seen as the only party that could really sort out Germany's problems. And they did in fact sort out the economy brilliantly, so much so that Germany went from one of the weakest country's in the world (after WW1) to one of the strongest in the space of about 10 years. Other country's have used similar economic policies as the Nazis in times of crisis. (Amongst other reasons). To sum up, you don't know what your talking about. Also, you seem to have the wrong definition of nationalism. Every country in the world is nationalist in one way or another. Being nationalist means you are proud of and act in the interests of your own country over other countries, which isn't always a bad thing. But for the Nazis it was. |
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 kairobert
Male, 18-29, Europe
1634 Posts
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Monday, June 08, 2009 4:32:35 AM
DavymidJustifying nationalism was just how Nazi Germany began. |
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 klgrl7681
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
69 Posts
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Sunday, June 07, 2009 11:14:11 PM
*Salutes all soldiers* I want to go watch Band of Brothers for the millionth time. Still have 5 hours of work left. |
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 Bored2Run
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
267 Posts
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Sunday, June 07, 2009 6:57:29 PM
Heh Heh Well said Davymid.Excellent post and pics. Thanks very much for sharing these. |
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 davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
11674 Posts
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Sunday, June 07, 2009 6:45:58 PM
vv No, but Douchebag is a country, and you're the f*cking President. You said that the hundreds of thousands of Allied dead "didn't die for our freedoms... they died for territorial conquest".Kairobert, Hitler was dry-raping greater Eurasia in the ass without lube, genociding his way across the continent, and ethically cleansing entire populations of human beings. And when the Allies stood up (and gave their lives - their ONLY life) to defeat that wankrag, you suggest that they were doing so for "Territorial Conquest"? Show some respect, take some remedial history classes, and then promptly shut the f*ck up. In that order. |
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kairobert
Male, 18-29, Europe
1634 Posts
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Sunday, June 07, 2009 4:53:38 PM
"You are the only one here acting like a nationalist."Objectivity is not a nation. |
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 Currahee428
Male, 13-17, Eastern US
31 Posts
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Sunday, June 07, 2009 4:01:54 PM
What makes me better is that I'm not going around killing everyone I have the slightest problem with. But I see your point. I am indeed a nationalist, I love my country. I just think the respect and gratitude we owe our soldiers is enormous, and would like to honor them. |
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 cmheiple
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
111 Posts
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Sunday, June 07, 2009 3:39:05 PM
Pretty powerful stuff. |
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kairobert
Male, 18-29, Europe
1634 Posts
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Sunday, June 07, 2009 2:58:01 PM
Hitler had some pretty drated up Nationalist views, but what makes you any better when acting like a nationalist yourself? Look at the world objectively. |
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 gorgack2000
Male, 13-17, Europe
4702 Posts
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Sunday, June 07, 2009 2:35:28 PM
Just knew this would turn into a flamewar before I even clicked the link... |
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Currahee428
Male, 13-17, Eastern US
31 Posts
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Sunday, June 07, 2009 1:40:31 PM
And I'm sorry, but the Nazis were evil. Good and evil may be abstract ideas, but I think genocide is quite a good description of an evil regime if looked at objectively. Hitler was doing terrible, terrible things and had to be stopped before his reign of terror spread throughout Europe and across the Atlantic. Also simim23, you're correct. We attacked out of retaliation, not out of a need to save the free world, but you cannot deny that whether or not it was the purpose, that is exactly what the Allies did. |
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 oceanbeast
Male, 18-29, Southern US
549 Posts
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Sunday, June 07, 2009 1:37:27 PM
"Originally, a majority of Americans supported the sending of troops into the Middle East, out of vengeance from 9/11. We didn't begin to oppose it until much later when we realized that we weren't over there solely to kick their asses and get the hell out."yes even I supported the war, but i think by now you know that upwards of 90% of the population knows the truth of and about the war. however had we never debunked hussein he would just be another crazy motherdrater the world dosent need. we already have to worry about Ahmadinejad (although not fully in power, he wields alot of influence, kim jong-il, castro, ortega, hugo chavez, the palestinians, evo morales, kirchner, the middle east however i think will never be stable, these people fight for ideals not motives. |
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Currahee428
Male, 13-17, Eastern US
31 Posts
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Sunday, June 07, 2009 1:35:16 PM
"So it was a joint collaboration of "saving the world" between British, Soviet, and American troops." Absolutely, when I said "our" I meant the allies, not just the U.S. "Well that explains why your screenname is Currahee and you're only a teenager. Is that all you know about the war? For shame." Yes, that is why my screen name is Currahee, and yes I am a teenager. But no, I have watched dozens of History Channel programs, Ken Burns' documentary, and several books on WWII. Though I admitt I know less than I would like about the subject, Band of Brothers is far from the only source of WWII knowledge I have, I simply think it embodies the spirit of the soldiers better than anything I have ever seen before.
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oceanbeast
Male, 18-29, Southern US
549 Posts
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Sunday, June 07, 2009 1:29:59 PM
kairobert - you are a really insensitive bastard. these people didn't die for a regime, they died with honor, they had the courage not to cower behind a computer screen, but rather ran into the gates of hell itself because they believed what they where doing was more important than themselves. for you to try to diminish their acts to mere political gains is pretty ignorant. |
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 Leiaisluf
Female, 13-17, Eastern US
192 Posts
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Sunday, June 07, 2009 1:28:58 PM
"Yet, Sarkozy tries to re-write history by ignoring the 75,000 British and Canadian troops who landed on D-day, focusing instead on Obama and the 57,000 US soldiers."The dude's hilariously inane. |
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 msieg007
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
2171 Posts
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Sunday, June 07, 2009 12:06:17 PM
"WWII was the only war in the history of mankind which can be incontrovertibly put down as good vs. evil."There's no such thing as good vs. evil. It's only our viewpoints that separate us. The nazis thought that what they were doing was good, and those trying to stop them were evil. "Now go watch a Band of Brothers marathon you unappreciative prick." Well that explains why your screenname is Currahee and you're only a teenager. Is that all you know about the war? For shame. |
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 simim23
Female, 18-29, Southern US
1435 Posts
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Sunday, June 07, 2009 10:42:37 AM
"Hitler was a heinous bastard who had to be stopped, and it was our brave soldiers who did it. Not to be too melodramatic, but our troops SAVED THE WORLD."Actually, Soviet troops originally discovered the camps and liberated Auschwitz. Americans helped, but the Soviets originally started. So it was a joint collaboration of "saving the world" between British, Soviet, and American troops. We, however, wouldn't have even been involved if Pearl Harbor hadn't happened, which caused us to formally declare war on the Axis... out of retaliation, not a need to save the freedom of the world.
and, @ oceanbeast:
Originally, a majority of Americans supported the sending of troops into the Middle East, out of vengeance from 9/11. We didn't begin to oppose it until much later when we realized that we weren't over there solely to kick their asses and get the hell out.
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Currahee428
Male, 13-17, Eastern US
31 Posts
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Sunday, June 07, 2009 9:34:02 AM
kairobert - So WWII wasn't about freedom? Tell that to the flipping jews you ignorant cur. WWII was the only war in the history of mankind which can be incontrovertibly put down as good vs. evil. Hitler was a heinous bastard who had to be stopped, and it was our brave soldiers who did it. Not to be too melodramatic, but our troops SAVED THE WORLD. Even objectively it comes out the same way. Only one who was severly impared by nescience would have any other view of it. Now go watch a Band of Brothers marathon you unappreciative prick. |
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 chadders42
Male, 13-17, Europe
171 Posts
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Sunday, June 07, 2009 7:09:04 AM
Yet, Sarkozy tries to re-write history by ignoring the 75,000 British and Canadian troops who landed on D-day, focusing instead on Obama and the 57,000 US soldiers.Makes you think. |
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 madduck
Female, 40-49, Europe
2818 Posts
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Sunday, June 07, 2009 4:46:34 AM
All those young men who died- twice last century ( and more) they went and were massacred. Every V day my grandmother cried- because all the young men went away and they never came home.What a terrible loss, and how great a sacrifice made. The politics is one matter, but the personal price for all concerned was enormous. |
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 jamesuyt
Male, 13-17, Australia
1063 Posts
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Sunday, June 07, 2009 2:44:33 AM
RIP to all those that died.Your service is deeply appreciated. |
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kairobert
Male, 18-29, Europe
1634 Posts
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Sunday, June 07, 2009 1:38:35 AM
"kairobert - you cannot be serious. Either you're a complete tool who is trying to get people worked up or you're seriously in need of an education."If I am a tool for trying to look at the world objectively instead of subduing to indoctrination, then what should I call you?
And my point is:
War is rarely about freedom, it's a dispute between regimes that lead to the death of millions and a subjective look at history from the victors viewpoint.
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 vorpalsword
Male, 18-29, Western US
1429 Posts
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Saturday, June 06, 2009 10:23:24 PM
fghj my birthday is also on an important day in ww2, feb 23 , thats when our boys got mount suribachi in iwo jima and we got that famous flag raising pic |
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