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IAB Poll-O-The Day: Today's Gay Marriage Banhammer

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thor82
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 55 Posts
Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:39:02 AM
Haha well ok Madest, I guess your beliefs are the right way, and I am wrong. But for your sake, I hope you don't treat people like this in the real world, otherwise I doubt you have many friends.

And poet, I really have enjoyed this debate, though I do not necessarily agree, I do not wish to take up any more time on this forum, but if you would like to continue it I would love to on email. As far as King David, I am not truly good with words and so this writer states it much better than me http://www.tektonics.org/gk/gaydavid.htm...
Once again, thank you.


The_Maddog
Male, 30-39, Europe
 3192 Posts
Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:22:18 AM
Stop feeding the troll please!

madest
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6464 Posts
Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:22:05 AM
Yeah I do hate your beliefs. They have been the catalyst for death, destruction, slavery, misogyny, bigotry and now homophobia. But yeah you have free will to be as stupid as you want to be.

apoet4life
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 238 Posts
Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:22:02 AM
thor - I respect your beliefs, but when those beliefs cause social injustice and infringe the rights of a minority then education needs to happen as it has had to in the past. See Women's Rights, Interracial Marriage, and Slavery.

apoet4life
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 238 Posts
Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:19:28 AM
1 Samuel 20: 41-42 - “David rose from beside the stone heap and prostrated himself with his face to the ground. He bowed three times and they kissed each other and wept with each other; David wept the more. Then Jonathan said to David, ‘Go in peace, since both of us have sworn in the name of the Lord, saying, “The Lord shall be between me and you, and between my descendants and your descendants, forever.” ’ He got up and left; and Jonathan went into the city.”

2 Samuel 1:23, 26-27 - “Saul and Jonathan, beloved and lovely!
In life and in death they were not divided;
they were swifter than eagles,
they were stronger than lions.
How the mighty have fallen in the midst of battle!
Jonathan lies slain upon your high places.
I am distressed for you my brother Jonathan;
Greatly beloved were you to me;
your love to me was wonderful, passing the love of women.”


apoet4life
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 238 Posts
Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:18:14 AM
thor - Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed due to inhospitality. Want a few good verses? Sure. Here you go, Jonathan and David:

1 Samuel 18 1-4 - "And it came to pass, when he had made an end of speaking unto Saul, that the soul of Jonathan was knit with the soul of David, and Jonathan loved him as his own soul. And Saul took him that day, and would let him go no more home to his father's house. Then Jonathan and David made a covenant, because he loved him as his own soul. And Jonathan stripped himself of the robe that was upon him, and gave it to David, and his garments, even to his sword, and to his bow, and to his girdle."

1 Samuel 20:30 - “You son of a perverse, rebellious woman! Do I not know that you have chosen [David] the son of Jesse to your own shame and to the shame of your mother’s nakedness? For as long as the son of Jesse lives upon the earth, neither you nor your kingdom shall be established.

continued......


thor82
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 55 Posts
Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:09:29 AM
Poet, does an open mind and open heart mean that you can't respect what I believe? Does that you mean you can choose what your open about and who you love? I respect your opinion and your beliefs as well as everyone else, that does not mean I have to agree. Thats the beauty of free will. And if that makes me a religous nut that somehow has committed a social injustice, than so be it.
Once again Madest, I'm sorry that you hate my beliefs so much that you feel the need to ridicule them.

madest
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6464 Posts
Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:05:02 AM
Don't worry thor. You're in good company. Sarah Palin thinks man shared the planet with dinosaurs and the earth is 6000 years old. I wonder how literally you hold your beliefs. Do you think a man can live in the belly of a fish for 3 days? Do you think a man named Noah built an ark and 2 of every animal went aboard? How about that parting of the red sea or the talking burning bush? Oh yeah 2000 years ago there were miracles everywhere!

thor82
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 55 Posts
Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:04:52 AM
well once again like I said its what i believe, and another verse that I believe talks about it is Jude 1:7 where it states "Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire." And if you believe the Bible to be true, than I will ask you to give me a verse that says the homosexual lifestyle is ok.

Dagaz20
Female, 18-29, Canada
 382 Posts
Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:04:49 AM
marriage is over-rated anyway, but if it's what two people want, then they shoudlnt' have anything telling them that they can't have it

iPirate
Male, 13-17, Eastern US
 424 Posts
Wednesday, May 27, 2009 8:59:48 AM
At least we proved the everyone above the 13-17 tier can be mature. Just kidding. Some of you have at least.

Come on guys. It's a forum. This is just sad.


apoet4life
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 238 Posts
Wednesday, May 27, 2009 8:58:21 AM
thor - It is the ignorance and intolerability of Christians that make madest feel that way. For years Christians have used their faith to support social injustices. It's sad they still do. As for me, I am a Christian with an open heart and mind.

apoet4life
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 238 Posts
Wednesday, May 27, 2009 8:55:11 AM
panth - When interracial marriage was legalized most churches were against it as well. Did God or the Bible change? No. Did the interpretation get read without hate, ignorance, and bias? Yes.

thor82
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 55 Posts
Wednesday, May 27, 2009 8:53:40 AM
And in only 1 post madest, you've shown you're not capable of reasoning because of your disrepect of others beliefs and religions.

BrimstoneOne
Male, 30-39, Canada
 2239 Posts
Wednesday, May 27, 2009 8:53:26 AM
Here in Canada, sex marriage is a given. To ban, or deny would/is an font to our Charter of Rights and Freedoms. To discriminate against sexual orientation, race/colour, age, or religious beliefs is illegal under the Charter. And any country that has anything similar to our Charter, and bans same gender unions/marriages is/are breaking their own laws by being discriminatory.

My opinion/point of view, granted the religious nuts here are still bent out shape that this has come to pass.


apoet4life
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 238 Posts
Wednesday, May 27, 2009 8:53:01 AM
thor: Lev 20:9 says that if you curse your parents you should be put to death. Do you hold this verse to be true? How about Lev 20:18 where it says that if you have sex while a woman is on her period, you are to be cut off from the people. A few more snippets from Leviticus:

Lev 25:44-45 - "Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property."

Lev 19:19 - "...do not plant your field with two kinds of seed. Do not wear material woven of two kinds of material."

Lev 11:12 - "Whatever in the water does not have fins or scales; that shall be an abomination to you." (Apparently shrimp and lobster are an abomination too.


I wonder if the Bible condemns picking and choosing verses for condemnation is a sin...........


panth753
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 8885 Posts
Wednesday, May 27, 2009 8:51:35 AM
It's not fair, I live in Iowa. Why do we have gay marrage but Califonia doesn't? Religon is not what it used to be 40 years ago. Yes, I am Christain, but I do believe that if people are not bound to the church, there is no way that they are going to be bound to the rules of the church. So allow gay marrage, will most churches support it though, hell no, but I do believe the church has no say in what goes on in the lives of non-believers.

madest
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6464 Posts
Wednesday, May 27, 2009 8:47:49 AM
In only 2 posts Thor has shown he's been brainwashed by religion and rejects science for a 2000yo fairy tale. He's not capable of reason. There's many more like him.

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13597 Posts
Wednesday, May 27, 2009 8:47:30 AM
I never understood the big deal about this let them get married it dosen't hurt or affect you.

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13597 Posts
Wednesday, May 27, 2009 8:46:35 AM
VV So if your born a hermaphrodite your just screwed then according to that logic.

thor82
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 55 Posts
Wednesday, May 27, 2009 8:44:22 AM
And I was making a point, not relating a pedophile to a homosexual. The previous statement related being black to being homosexual, which is absurd, and with my statement that is what I was pointing out.

thor82
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 55 Posts
Wednesday, May 27, 2009 8:42:27 AM
apoet4life, well as I believe the Bible to be the truth, the passage of Leviticus 18 speaks of immoral sexual relations, including verse 22 which states "Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable. " So for me, since the Bible is my truth, this is proof for me.

apoet4life
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 238 Posts
Wednesday, May 27, 2009 8:38:56 AM
" if you want to extend the context of the argument, then I guess you disagree with the statement, that you don't hate pedofiles, you just don't think they should have the same rights as the rest of us."

How on earth can you compare homosexuals to pedophiles?
Homosexuals: consentual love between two adults.
Pedophiles: ones who lust for children


apoet4life
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 238 Posts
Wednesday, May 27, 2009 8:36:39 AM
"For me it is logical that choosing the gay lifestyle is immoral."

When did you decide you wanted to be a heterosexual?

Please give me the reasons why you believe homosexuality is wrong. Where does your religious backing lie? Examples please.


apoet4life
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 238 Posts
Wednesday, May 27, 2009 8:34:33 AM
"So, being black is unnatural?"

Clearly you've missed the point. It was once said that God separated the races for a reason as justification to keep interracial marriage outlawed (by a judge none-the-less). How is this any different from them saying "God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve"? Yes there's no proof that homosexuality is natural, but there's no evidence to say there isn't either.


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