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IAB Poll-O-The Day: Today's Gay Marriage Banhammer

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goaliejerry
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 4028 Posts
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 10:32:08 PM
People in the Bible Belt, the young, poor, and the uneducated tend to get divorced more often. Catholics, the educated, and the rich tend to get divorced the least often.

So the people MOST likely to be all about hatin the gays (the poor, the religious, the uneducated) are also the MOST likely to be gettin divorced.


rubored
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 167 Posts
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 10:31:37 PM
That last verse got cut off. Last part is "of their error".

cagel
Female, 18-29, Western US
 277 Posts
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 10:31:27 PM
Same sex marriage has nothing to do with pedophelia or any of those paraphelias!!!!

NONE. Your 'evidence' is reactionary, emotional, and not based in science or history.


dragonshadoz
Female, 18-29, Canada
 16276 Posts
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 10:31:20 PM
On the flip side, same-sex marriage could gain money for the government as well. Do you know how much money goes into weddings and honeymoons and the like?

rubored
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 167 Posts
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 10:30:19 PM
If you are a Christian, you'd be against it. Let me make a few quotes here from The Bible:

1 Cor 6:9 "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals"

1 Tim 1:9-10 "realizing the fact that (civil) law is not made for a righteous man, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers"

Rom 1:26-27 "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of the


Dextrine
Male, 18-29, Western US
 481 Posts
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 10:28:59 PM
Everyone should have the same rights end of story.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16673 Posts
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 10:28:41 PM
"That's the real root of your position. You want to restrict liberty and freedom of certain people you find icky"

I don't find homosexuals "icky"

I do find pedophiles, bestiality, polygamy, and child marriage very objectionable and a threat to well ordered society. This neither arbitrary or tyrannical.

It's doubtful that any evidence presented to you would be valid or hard enough for you to accept.
You clearly don't have the forethought enough to see the unintended consequences here. You want it, Regardless of whom it hurts now or in the future.



SuperSmash
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 3770 Posts
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 10:28:36 PM
@ Everybody:

I'll repeat the question I asked earlier just because I really want to know.

What specific law from the past has brought about significant unforeseen negative consequences that we are still dealing with to this day?

I can name one. But, it's a stretch. The IDEA Act. It states that all children must be provided with a free and appropiate education regardless of any disability and regardless of cost. It also says that parents can legally sue the school if they believe that their disabled child is not receiving a proper education.

Sounds great, right? It is. But it also puts a drain on the school's funds and time. It's kind of like taking from the masses to care for the unfortunate few. It's a necessary law, but it also brings about unecessary cases and expense to the schools.

I guess same-sex marriage could flood the courts with even more divorce cases.


goaliejerry
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 4028 Posts
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 10:28:10 PM
"God made Adam and Eve. Not Adam and Steve"

Wait, did God NOT make Homosexual people? Oh, thats right, the devil made them do it...and we saw what homosexual repression does to godly men (*cough* systematic rape of boys *cough*)...


dragonshadoz
Female, 18-29, Canada
 16276 Posts
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 10:26:46 PM
That Adam and Steve sh-t is so overdone.
And I know that guy is just trying to get a rise, but seriously, some people honestly argue in that manner. Pretty sad, actually.

starcrosst
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 54 Posts
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 10:26:40 PM
jesus christ on crutches! What really sickens me is there are 2 types of people against gay marriage, those trying to keep marriage 'sacred', and those who just think a dude with another dude is 'icky'.

wanna keep marraige sacred? start with your frelling self. Honor, respect, love your husband/wife. don't cheat on them, don't beat them, don't treat them like utter crap. Until every single straight married couple can honestly say this is occuring 100 percent of the time, shut up about the 'sacredness' of marriage.

If you're one of the ones who find gay's 'icky', DON'T LOOK! last i checked, anytime anyone saw something they didn't like, they had the ability to turn their head away.

Oh, and just picture, if you can, what it would be like if everyone around you told you that who you loved, who you wanted to be with, was wrong, a sin, not natural. put yourself in a world for a moment where the gay/straight spectrum has flipped.

ACCEPT IT, MOVE ON.


rubored
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 167 Posts
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 10:25:43 PM
Agent, I'm not trolling. I'm stating my beliefs. As is just about everyone else in this thread.

goaliejerry
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 4028 Posts
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 10:24:23 PM
I'm not gonna even start with back and forth, but note two things.

One - saying "they can have all the same rights, just don't call it Marriage" rings very closely to "seperate but equal" to me.

And two, the Court entirely upheld the rights of homosexual couples to have all the rights granted in heterosexual "marriage" - it just can't be called Marriage.

So, the California Constitution protects the rights of homosexual couples to all of the protections of Civil Unions, just don't call them Marriage. I can live with that.


Agentk120
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 511 Posts
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 10:24:06 PM
Rubored: Troll harder.

rubored
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 167 Posts
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 10:23:26 PM
I'm all against gay marriage..

I can hear it now.. My daddy is cheating on my daddy! He's dating my friends daddy. *starts crying*

Seriously though, I'm a Christian and don't believe in Gay marriage. It wasn't intended to happen.

God made Adam and Eve. Not Adam and Steve.


cagel
Female, 18-29, Western US
 277 Posts
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 10:22:28 PM
For reference, the first marriages recognized by the catholic church were male/male marriages.

Also, a fun fact, humans are not inherently monogamous! Nor do humans have inherently defined gender behaviors! Nor standard sexual practices and orientations!


Agentk120
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 511 Posts
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 10:20:46 PM
Ahhh, the good old "think of the children!" Well, I am. I want to be sure that my children(that is, if I have children) have the freedom to be with whomever they want that is guaranteed in the Constitution.

And we've talked far too much about this line already.


dragonshadoz
Female, 18-29, Canada
 16276 Posts
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 10:19:20 PM
I want my kid to grow up in a country where if they end up being queer, they will not be ostracized.

Fritolicious
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 199 Posts
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 10:16:30 PM
I'm with OldOllie 100% of the way.


CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16673 Posts
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 10:16:09 PM
"what does that even mean? So, now you're advocating rules and laws for the sake of rules and laws?"

I'm advocating for what kind of country do you want your children and grandchildren to grow up in ? Because if these lines aren't drawn now while they are easy to accomplish, They will surely end up becoming a problem for our progeny.


cagel
Female, 18-29, Western US
 277 Posts
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 10:15:42 PM
"People wanting to legalize everything from prostitution to drugs use that argument all the time, It's overused and weak.

It's about the law and order in our society."

So you just want arbitrary laws that fit your moral values? Evidence contrary to your values be damned? I really don't understand your logic. People here have asked you to explain who same-sex marriage hurt and you have given absolutely no answer. Then you come back with a red-herring regarding drugs and prostitution and say that some unsubstantiated standard of "law and order" precedes liberty?

That's the real root of your position. You want to restrict liberty and freedom of certain people you find icky; with absolutely no hard evidence supporting why that's legally, morally, and logically valid.

You, sir, are a tyrant.


SuperSmash
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 3770 Posts
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 10:15:39 PM
So we should pass all types of laws and pro-actively write things into the Constitution just in case it comes up sometime in the future?


deaf_woman
Male, 30-39, Europe
 2719 Posts
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 10:15:32 PM

isn't it time for a random ringo?


CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16673 Posts
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 10:11:23 PM
"what specific law from the past has brought about significant unforeseen negative consequences that we are still dealing with to this day?"

It was the lack thereof, Had there been a constitutional amendment passed, Decades ago, Defining marriage (Like California passed). This wouldn't even be an issue.

Just like right now there is no Provision in that amendment for "Consenting Adults" Or "Mentally sound". This leaves things wide open for a fight later. And just because you think it's so absurd it isn't needed right now, Just remember, Your grandparents thought the same thing and didn't think a marriage amendment saying "Between a man and a woman" was necessary either.


Agentk120
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 511 Posts
Tuesday, May 26, 2009 10:06:55 PM
Hahaha, what does that even mean? So, now you're advocating rules and laws for the sake of rules and laws? Have you ever read Thoreau? One of the main responsibilities of a citizen is to peaceably oppose unjust, excessive, and arbitrary laws.

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